My Friend Doesn't Know The Difference!

Mew_Rikka · Newb Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

My friend Hannah doesn't know the difference between flaming and constructive critisism. She keeps thinking I am flaming her art. But I once said this:

^.^ OMG LOVE THIS PIC SO KAWAII!...hmm just to tell you one thing...the hand is a little small...but otherwise love it! faves*

Then she e-mailed me with this e-mail:

Rikka,

I have a problem. And no offense but it's kinda about you. You flame my art on FAC like, "That mark is on the wrong leg, the hand is way too small, and the legs are short." I don't know if you know this, but it hurts my feelings. You telling me whats wrong with it. I don't care. And you shouldn't either if I even don't and especially because it's not your art. I said I'll have to let you off with a warning on FAC, but please, remind yourself if you do flame on me again.

Sincerly,
Hannah

She reported me. Now I dunno what to do. I am as annoyed as all get out. I don't have the e-mail I sent to her in reply to that one. But I do remember saying that if she thinks that I am hurting her then I won't bother commenting at all. I have got a whole long thing of constructive critisism from a girl I did a request on right here:

Thanks for answering my request. Alright. Let's see...

The colors are exact. Position is good, though I only see one leg. The face looks like HiHi Puffy AmiYumi! style, but would probably have looked a little better had it been a bit less square. Also, one of the hands looks disproportionate next to the other. The background is a nice use of Windows Media Player.

All in all, it has a few things to work on, but I think it's a nice job. *favs*

I didn't care about what she said I wanted to fix it and get it fixed! Well what should I do if she has something she needs to work on a hand that is too small or something and she thinks that I am flaming her work? Should I not comment on it? Or just say good job. Please help me.

bungakawa2000 · Still very bored Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 261

If you're not flaming, then don't worry. Btw, if you really make comments similar to what you have posted in this thread, then it is constructive criticism. You'll find that the vast majority of people actually welcome those comments.

The mods don't hand out warnings just because people tell them to. The burden of proof is on the person making the accusation. If she cannot demonstrate that you have flamed her, then you're clear. *pats on the back*

grimfairy · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 300

It doesn't seem like she is interested in hearing anything regarding how her art can improve. Maybe it's "emotional" art for her, but I doubt it. If she is at all serious she needs to learn to take a little criticism. Every little bit helps her to get better. Flaming would simply be telling her she sucks or just rudely pointing out the bad things about the art and not saying any of the perks.

I don't know, maybe she's not looking for improvement but just praise and attention. And by you telling her how to improve, that's not the attention she's looking for.

Sound's like a child's reaction to criticism. You're not doing anything wrong.

Flaming = rude
Constructive Criticism = helpful

Breloom · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject:

Lmao, some people can't take criticism (like me for instance, I hate it) I don't go warning people on it though.

You are allowed to help as long as it's not flaming.
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Stratadrake · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject:

[quote]"the hand is a little small..."[/quote]
That's certainly not a flame.

But it's not (by itself) a constrictive crit either.

What it [i]is[/i], is simply [b]fault-finding[/b]. The value of a constructive criticism is not in pointing out the flaws and leaving them for everyone to see, but also suggesting means to address those flaws, if not on the current piece, then in the future.
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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

[quote="bungakawa2000 ()"] You'll find that the vast majority of people [b]on FAC don't[/b] actually welcome those comments. [/quote]
Fix'd. :D

But seriously, your friend needs a real flame to straighten her out. Throwing around a term she doesn't even know... I really dislike the ignorant. :/

Anyway, what you're doing isn't an actual flame like so many others have already mentioned. But don't go telling her "good job" if you don't believe that's true. It won't help her get any better at art, so it's doing little more than ego-boosting, which she can get from her other friends if she needs it. The best thing you could do ( lmao, teachers actually learn this in university) is the "sandwich" method. First you mention something good about it, then you mention something that could be worked on (providing you give details on how to make it better), then you end with another positive comment.
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