Is Zorro A Superhero?

[bungakawa2000]

I wasn't sure where to post this, so here goes nothing...

Is Zorro a superhero? He is almost always *not* mentionned when superheroes are discussed. Is it because he doesn't have superpowers? But neither does Batman. Is he because he's not battling supervillains? But Batman wasn't either in his first adventures (if you've seen Batman Begins, did you know Falcone was the last "normal" ennemy Batman fought before the familiar gallery of Penguin, Joker and company was introduced?), and I'm certain most other superheroes have fought against "normal" people at some point in their career.

So, Zorro... rightfully cast out, or a superhero who deserves a place in the spotlight?

Bunga

[Dumas]

you have a good point and I could add to the list Robin Hood, the Lone Ranger and Tarzan who's fit the same category as Zorro. Zorro and the others might be a precursor of the modern super-heroes as we know today.

then where Sherlock Holmes could fit?

[Dumas]

I forgotted to mention the Green Hornet who bridge the gap between the old heroes and the newest ones. No superpowers but his car the Black Beauty have lots of gadgets and he got a good sidekick with Kato.

[DG-sama]

Please don't double post Dumas. The edit button is there for a reason :3

Anyway I wouldn't really consider Zorro a superhero. Hero yes but without super-powers he is not well super. Along the same lines I don't really consider characters such as Batman and Ironman who use gadgets and technology to become super as true superheros. Heros and vigilantes yes, supers no.
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[Red_Quatre]

Hmm..Zorro. He is a spuer hero if you think about it. He does have a cape and a sweet mask. And a sword...and the "Z" thing he does. I think it's safe to say that he's a super hero.
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[Dumas]

[quote="DG-sama (DG-sama)"] Please don't double post Dumas. The edit button is there for a reason :3
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I didn't double post it, it's looks like my server had a server problem, sorry for the inconvience

[unfocused]

the term "superhero" was made to distinguish between ordinary men and woman who save lives and [i]inhuman[/i] men and women who save lives. It doesnt have anything to do with capes and masks and insignia's, since even 4 year old children can dress up that way.

The term refers to superior, or "super" men and woman, who bestow extraordinary power beyond any man. the reason batman is included in this group when talked about between kids at school is because not everyone understands this. And the reason he is included in this group when talked about between people who [i]do[/i] understand, is because it's not really a big deal. Batman was the second comicbook character ever created, no matter if he is super or not, he will always have the right to be included in this group, simply because he is one of the biggest contibutors to comics.

Not to mention he is more than your average man. He is highly intellegent, a very clever man, he uses his smarts with every move he makes. He is immensly skilled in virtually every martial art form known to man. He is the alpha male. His physique is incredible for a normal man. Not only is he very strong, but flexible aswell, most people cannot achieve these two attributes at the same time, in the same instance. Batman does this in every waking second of his life. He uses his fortune to make gadgits, yes. you can make the arguement that he uses gadgets... BUT you must remember that he invents these gadgets himself. His many cars, all the jets he owns, and every weapon he can carry in that utility belt, his highly advanced outfits, and then some. His outfits are designed with technology not used or even discovered by anyone else, including organizations such as NASA and the CIA. Another thing i would like to point out: among all of his other amazing skills, Batman is a master detective. This is important to a man with no extraordinary power. He uses his mind, as if playing a game of chess in every situation he is in. This puts him on the bounds of actually being "super". He not only uses his amazing strength, agility, endurance and skill in a battle, he also uses his intellegents, experience, knowledge of his opponent and his surroundings.

Batman is indeed a "superhero", This is unmistakable.

Zorro is not. He's only a skilled sword fighter. With an iron gift of bravery, courageousness, strong will, but firefighters have these aswell. Which could be an entire arguement in itself... Zorro is a character who can quite litterally be imitated by any one of us. There is nothing extraordinary about him. The only thing he has on any of us would be his mastery in sword fighting, which, of course, any of us can obtain with extensive practice in the art.

also, Batman would own zorro quickly in a fight...
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[Alpha_zero]

[quote="unfocused (James)"] also, Batman would own zorro quickly in a fight... [/quote]
Couldn't leave that out could ya!

But yes, I agree with James. Zorro is merely a well-trained vigulante(sp?) who takes the law into his own hands. Don't gonig telling my Batman is a vigulante, because all the above reasons make him very much a super hero.
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also, this is the reason we need a comic book section on the forums.
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[VR_Jay]

Indian Jones is a super hero, as far as I'm concerned, and Zorro is a lot like Indiana Jones in some respects, so it's possible.

Since I'm on the topic, Harrison Ford is [i]not [/i]a super hero, but he is a demigod. He was fathered by Zeus and a pure white Arabian stallion. I say this with all certainty.
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[unfocused]

and you also have quotes from df and hjh in your sig, so you're word has less credibility.

indian jones could be... right... if you count his tremendous nack with good luck. and zorro is nothing like indiana jones. jones does what he does for himself, zorro does it for everyone else. and zorro kicks indiana jones ass atleast twice a day before breakfast, dude. so do the math... zorro > indiana jones, batman (superhero) > than zorro, so theres no way indiana jones can be a superhero.
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[VR_Jay]

What you say? I didn't say they shared a lot of qualities, just a few. For instance, both are proficient with whips. Both ride horses and do kick ass stunts with said horses. Both wear cool hats. Etc, etc.

And Indiana Jones can kick anyones ass. Anyones. Name someone. I will tell you just how bad he can kick their ass.

Also, Jones does what he does for others. Each movie documents his countless acts of heroism and selflessness. He goes after ancient relics because it is his job and his passion, but he puts the needs of his friends and loved ones first.
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[unfocused]

haha

but hats and whips hardly constitutes what a superhero is ;)

indiana jones cannot kick chuck norris' ass...
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[VR_Jay]

No, but neither of them would dare challenge the other, for they know that to fight would mean an eternal battle of the titans, a never ending conflict that would tear the very fabric of reality in two.

They abstain from combat only because they know it would destroy existence. ^_^
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[AMnezcorp]

[color=blue]Ok how about Masterchief and the Arbiter from HALO and Gordon Freeman from Half life?They aren't super heroes but they sure act like one as if they had super human power.NO wait.A true superhero s the one who has a SUPERHUMAN COURAGE.Let me ask you one thing.Would you dare go up against a group of gangster armed with AK-47 with only a crowbar in your hands alone?

Same goes for Zorro,Batman and Robin Hood.They have the guts to uphold what is right.Though they dont posses superpowers,i still say they are a superheroes in their hearts[/color]

[Paru]

Capes are the sole deciding factor for superheroism. Zorro has a cape, therefor Zorro=Superhero.

End of discussion.

[unfocused]

^ faild post rite thar

they're not called "supercapes"

its the powers that make a superhero, hence the "superpowers"

if you know nothing of superheroism pls stay out thnxbai.

and for the dude who posted in blue.. i actually would dare go up against a gang with ak47's while i only have a crowbar, i'm a superhero then, right?

its the superpowers that make the superhero... whats so hard to understand about that? many people still dont consider batman a superhero, its ok not to... he's only human btw.

[royalfool45]

HECK NO! HE'S NOT A SUPERHERO HE'S A LEGEND. Though he's just like batman but he's not a superhero.