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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: Problems on my Art |
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What's wrong on my art? Many people are so jealous about me, so I blocked them because it's [b]not[/b] true on what they think.
Don't you know that my art is more reckonizable than ShadowPiplup's and Griffen101's? I just can't understand.
I can do shadings, but it's still in practice. I sometimes clean my line arts to make it seems to be fresh. Large pictures, I can keep up on them because I'm so good at them, don't know why but still.
I think I've oversaid it, but I'll be planning on getting Photoshop CS2 or GIMP. |
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aquaeevee Forum contributor
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 770 Location: just southwest of sod off, a little past sign say noobly people parking, 5 tics from the asylum
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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ooh i love photoshop, hey if you need a polite critique yelp ok? _________________ with this frame of mind you better pray i never get a point of view gun, too late i just did. just pray i dont aim at you then! |
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London Moderator
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 6474
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Don't you know that my art is more reckonizable than ShadowPiplup's and Griffen101's? I just can't understand. [/quote]
How many times have I told you recognizable does not necessarily = good? _________________ [i][size=9]Go Yankees![/size][/i] |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not saying that it so good, that it can be reckonized. I'm saying about the more that it can be reckonized, the better the popularity of the picture. |
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Ryjia Rookie
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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A recognizable style can be good, sometimes...but you're getting mad for the wrong reasons. You don't need to compare yourself to others and you don't need popularity. You should aim for improvement instead of popularity and aim for a style you're comfortable with instead of a recognizable style. And just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they're jealous. |
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mangacheese1818 Rookie
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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You may have a recognisable style; but you have very little skill. |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Well look at this picture.
http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-702799.html
This was my best picture yet. I've took 15 minutes drawing this, and it got 5 faves, 41 comments, and 520 views. |
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aquaeevee Forum contributor
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 770 Location: just southwest of sod off, a little past sign say noobly people parking, 5 tics from the asylum
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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not to mention 1 crtique from yours truely _________________ with this frame of mind you better pray i never get a point of view gun, too late i just did. just pray i dont aim at you then! |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you. That's all I need, just one. |
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Ryjia Rookie
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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just one? wouldn't you appreciate more.
well all I can say is practice practice practice
take more time on your pictures too |
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MonsterCandy Newb
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Eh, i have a lot of critiques, but since someone already gave you one and thats all you aparntly wanted, i'll just give you some friendly advise, one artist to another.
First i'd serjest studying photographs for referance on anatomy and poses, though if you use this method be sure to credit where you referanced from.
A thing i tend to do is look at myself in the mirror for anatomy info. It may sound strange, but studing your own body, how it moves and what is physically possible from what i've found has been helpful to me making improvements on my artwork.
Lastly i can't tell if you do this or not, but i would always start with a rough sketch before you start. This will help give you idea of where everythings going to go, the mood of the image and so on.
Hope that helps a little bit... |
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Horgh Banned
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 973
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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You need shading and general proportions fixed.
Nuff said. _________________ [color=green][size=20]★الله★أَكْبَر★[/size][/color] |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well talking to Horgh, I saw the conversation from my friend and you. I'm seriously not lame. And that is the truth.
Reason I'm not good at MS Paint is because I'm too lazy on it. The characters I do, some might be recognizable. BTW, I only draw them by mouse. That's the only kind of way. But not just the mouse, I always use the magnifying glass to find flaws and gaps that are necessarily need to be fixed. The shadings are still in practice now.
When I get Photoshop, I'll do the tutorials that are on the Internet. What I saw that was interesting was the one that how I need to make a glass ball.
P.S. Please, I do not want to have an Internet fight again like last time. |
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London Moderator
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 6474
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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MonsterCandy speaks the truth.
Also, Kirbyt, a word of advice: stop trying to convince people you are a good artist by [i]telling[/i] them your art is good. Stop giving excuses for why your art isn't as good as you think it can be. If you want people to respect your art, then listen to critiques, practice, and make better art. Words alone won't change anyone's mind. _________________ [i][size=9]Go Yankees![/size][/i] |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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So can they be saying "Not bad" instead of "Good"?
That advice might help me. Someday, I'm going to submit pictures that [b]are not[/b] made from MS Paint, although my scanner still needs some working. And when I get better, I suggest that Elric would put me off of the Worst Artist Ever list. |
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Ryjia Rookie
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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The problem isn't ms paint, I have seen some wicked oekaki works in my online life. Having photoshop doesn't make anything better, you should improve in general first. Spent more time on art, sketch, study shapes, make shading. Don't be lazy and don't make excuses on stuff people point out in critique.
Something like a worst artist ever list is mean and low, but having photoshop isn't a guarantie that you will b removed from that list. It should just be ignored like ED articles on online artists and you should improve because you want to and not because of a list.
You should start with the basics first. When you work in paint check some tutorials on pixeling. Don't start without having a plan for your piece et cetera.
Also, the ones causing the fight aren't the ones critique-ing here. The problem is your reaction on peoples help offerings. |
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MonsterCandy Newb
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Ryjia. The problem is definately not MS Paint. I have also seen some absolutely outstanding pictures done in that program.
I'm gonna be honest and say i don't think you should even be considering Photoshop right now. MS Paint is perfect for begining artists. It's simple and easy to navigate. Photoshop is a LOT more advance and has so many features you'll probubally never use...
All i can say is just to practise. There is no quick way of becoming a good or desent artist. You can't just buy a program or a tablet and expect it to make your artwork better. It takes years. So please, stop being "Lazy" with your work, and put some more time and effort into it if your really serious about this kind of thing.
Study anatomy, find tutorials for MS Paint, there are some truely fantasic ones i've seen witch i could try dig up for you, and with all my years of useing the program i know some handy tricks that i could teach you how to do, if your willing to listen.
If however, you deside to egnore what everyones telling you and do buy photoshop, one word of advise...
Never, EVER use the dodge or burn tool to do shadeing and highlights. Just... Don't. |
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Kirbyt Still very bored
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: |
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[quote="MonsterCandy"]I agree with Ryjia. The problem is definately not MS Paint.[/quote]
Then why would anyone like Edward Elric be saying that I fail in MS Paint?
[quote="London"]If you want people to respect your art, then listen to critiques, practice, and make better art.[/quote]
But Horgh will never respect anyone's art that uses MS Paint, thanks to the FAC ED article.
Besides, Horgh's critiques are too mean and he does not say any problems that he sees on pictures. The reason I block him and his so called friends is that I don't want them to make fun of MY art.
However, there is one serious critique that I have on one of my pictures from one guy named BLM. He said,
[i]Why did you make the face so long? You also did not even attempt to shade. Maybe take more than three minutes on the next submission that you plan to upload, then it may get more appreciation.[/i] |
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Ryjia Rookie
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Again. You should just ignore critiques or mean comments if you can't handle them. You should try to improve on your own and not because someone was mean to you.
You probably don't fail at ms paint, that's aquite crude thing to say, BUT you could improve a lot on it. Just keep on trying.
And if that about Horgh is true then he/she is wrong. It's all about the artist and not about the media. |
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MonsterCandy Newb
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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It's how you use MS Paint, not the program.
I'm trying to be as friendly as i can about this, but it's very hard when you keep trying to make excuses for everything. Just listen to what people have to say. It will help you choose what you need to improve on.
I've offered all the help i can give, as have other people. If your not going to listen to our advise, then you shouldn't have posted here. Only when you start listening and getting help will you get respect as an artist! |
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