Kingdom Hearts

ryuuzaki-clone · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: Kingdom Hearts

[b]self explanatory

talk about anything with kh[/b]
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Stratadrake · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:56 am Post subject:

You first. Wink

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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

KH1 was a great game

CoM was fun

KH2 is gutter trash

Hopefully, BBS will redeem KH2
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Aren · Has No Life Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Posts: 427

KH3 better not suck.

SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject:

I heard rumors they arent going to bring KH3 over here Crying or Very sad

hence why they sending us 358/2 days and Birth before sleep as an apology. Hopefully these are JUST rumors! >w<

KH: Awsome (Though seph was harder than the main villian)

KH CoM: even more awsome (The bosses were actually tough for a change!)

KH2: Wicked, though once again Sephiroth is harder than the main boss lols

RIKU FOR THE WIN! <3333
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]I heard rumors they arent going to bring KH3 over here Crying or Very sad

hence why they sending us 358/2 days and Birth before sleep as an apology. Hopefully these are JUST rumors! >w<

KH: Awsome (Though seph was harder than the main villian)

KH CoM: even more awsome (The bosses were actually tough for a change!)

KH2: Wicked, though once again Sephiroth is harder than the main boss lols

RIKU FOR THE WIN! <3333[/quote]

There are no plans whatsoever concerning KH3, since it is not even remotely in development, as far as we know.

Whoever told you otherwise is either lying, or dumb as rocks.

Also, KH2 was complete gutter trash.
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SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject:

Yeah but KH2 being lame is YOUR opinion hun, dont try to force it down other ppls throats Wink

I for one thought it was wicked because it was longer than the first and you get to go to new and old areas. Though however; they shouldnt have tampered with the scene where all the soliders run down the mountian on horseback in Mulan. Those bird heartless things coming down instead: Utter fail! I just laughed at Shao Kahn when I saw that.

And come on, you get to fight more of the FF crew in the hades matches! And if you get KH2 Final mix you get to fight all the organization and they are even HARDER than they were before.
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

Too bad they sacraficed a large amount of gameplay mechanics, made the traingle button the PRESS TO WIN HURR DURR button, made Disney worlds useless, and filled the series with unneeded shit, while Nomura pandered to his shitty new crowd.

KH2 was NOT a well made game in comparision to KH1. YOU might like it, but it is generally considered a piece of shit by people who aren't fangirls, blinded by their own stupid homolust.

EDIT: Also, no FF characters (Aside from Vivi and a redesigned Setzer) that were not part of Nomura's fag parade.
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SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject:

Im no homolust person I fear yaoi, also sequals are not always as good as the originals so give it a friggin rest and quit demonizing KH2! I like the game plus the mechanics were a upgrade. Riding pegasus to slay the hydra was an awsome feature, and landing inside the jaws of ceberus and having an oppertunity to biatchslap him or get bitten, wicked. AND they actually give Sephiroth a role in the game! He doesnt pop up randomly like in the platinum match AND he doesnt have Lance Bass's voice!

Also the upgraded outfits for all the characters was a plus. Sure Cloud looked wierd in his AC getup but he would have stood out in his old outfit in KH. And the anti form?! Come on people GAMESHARK that feature just to have it as a permanent form, also final form was rather neat too. Sure I was mad that they took away Aeroga and Strike Raid and Ars Arcranum but hey it made the game more challanging DUH.

It may not be a super awsome sequal to you but for me it stands up ok alongside the original.
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]Im no homolust person I fear yaoi, also sequals are not always as good as the originals so give it a friggin rest and quit demonizing KH2! I like the game plus the mechanics were a upgrade. Riding pegasus to slay the hydra was an awsome feature, and landing inside the jaws of ceberus and having an oppertunity to biatchslap him or get bitten, wicked. AND they actually give Sephiroth a role in the game! He doesnt pop up randomly like in the platinum match AND he doesnt have Lance Bass's voice!

Also the upgraded outfits for all the characters was a plus. Sure Cloud looked wierd in his AC getup but he would have stood out in his old outfit in KH. And the anti form?! Come on people GAMESHARK that feature just to have it as a permanent form, also final form was rather neat too. Sure I was mad that they took away Aeroga and Strike Raid and Ars Arcranum but hey it made the game more challanging DUH.

It may not be a super awsome sequal to you but for me it stands up ok alongside the original.[/quote]

It's stands up as meh, which makes it crap. A sequel should build off the good points of an original, while fixing any problems it had. Zone of the Enders 2 is a perfect example of such. Any sequel that is genuinely worse than the orginal, means that the developers are either lazy, money grubbing fucks, or lack the creativity to keep up quality, which means they shouldn't have made a fucking sequel in the first place.

Nomura falls into both catagories. That motherfucker is the cancer killing Square Enix games in general.
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SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject:

And people need to give the Halos and other crappy sequals a rest.
Lets see YOU make a jaw dropping sequal and sorry Nomura cant hear you over the billions of yen he is making off all these amazing games that you whine about. Wink

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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]And people need to give the Halos and other crappy sequals a rest.
Lets see YOU make a jaw dropping sequal and sorry Nomura cant hear you over the billions of yen he is making off all these amazing games that you whine about. Wink

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[color=green]>Implying that Money=good game[/color]

By that logic, Halo and Madden are byfar the greatest games of this generation, right? Halo 3 must be almost 3 times as good as KH2, since it sold 3 times as many copies! And don't even get me started on Wii Fit! It must be 8 times as well made as KH2, since it sold 8 times as many copies, right? I like the part where you only use sales as an arguement when they benefit your arguement, and only as a last resort, when your logic has crumbled.

ETA: Halo is trash, I've stated this multiple times. It's basically easymode Counter Strike 1.6, and is only beloved because it was most modern young lads first FPS, just as Goldeneye was a decade ago.
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ryuuzaki-clone · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:21 am Post subject:

[b]i am a fan of kh but i do have to say that kh2 was WAY too easy kh1 was challenging in every way possible hopefully kh3 will not be that easy to be able to get through in a day kh2 did look better though in outfits and etc.[/b]
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="ryuuzaki-clone"] kh2 did look better though in outfits and etc.[/b][/quote]

That was actually one of my big letdowns.

BELTANZIPPER up the ass.
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Stratadrake · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:06 am Post subject:

[quote="HerculesRockefeller"]Too bad they sacraficed a large amount of gameplay mechanics, made the traingle button the PRESS TO WIN HURR DURR button, made Disney worlds useless, and filled the series with unneeded <blink>@^*%</blink>, while Nomura pandered to his s**tty new crowd.[/quote]
Gameplaye mechanics, like what? I agree that the Triangle attacks could've used a little more 'risk' factor to them (only against the dice/card game attacks could you actually screw them up, and nearly the only battle with a branching outcome depending on your timing was that battle against Xemnas), but the battle system was largely better.
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ryuuzaki-clone · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:38 am Post subject:

[b]they used the triangle button too much and it made the battle easy to win other than that the game mechanics were easier to use in my opinion[/b]
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="Stratadrake"][quote="HerculesRockefeller"]Too bad they sacraficed a large amount of gameplay mechanics, made the traingle button the PRESS TO WIN HURR DURR button, made Disney worlds useless, and filled the series with unneeded <blink>@^*%</blink>, while Nomura pandered to his s**tty new crowd.[/quote]
Gameplaye mechanics, like what? I agree that the Triangle attacks could've used a little more 'risk' factor to them (only against the dice/card game attacks could you actually screw them up, and nearly the only battle with a branching outcome depending on your timing was that battle against Xemnas), but the battle system was largely better.[/quote]

The fact that they took out the dodge button as a day one staple honestly just offended me. It made me feel less like I was playing a game, and more like I was watching the combat engine unfold how it wanted. Also, the new, floaty and over-the-top air combat took a lot away from the challange of the game, since your attacks homed in most of the time anyway.

EDIT: Also, the new magic related changes were piss, since the KH1 magic system was greeat, and didn't need any changes. Don't fix what isn't broken Nomura.
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SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject:

Kh2 was easier in some parts. It didnt have as many puzzels as KH did. However the camara was alot better and so was the combat system. HOWEVER if they had gave us multiple button options, people like my brother would have started squawking things like "YOUR RIPPING OFF RE4/GOD OF WAR! >=O" and I doubt Nomura wanted to hear that. Sure I wanted multiple button options like hitting a sequence of different buttons for the SUPER lasor attack at the end Xemnas launches at ya and if you miss one sequence you die. (I love a good challenge x3)

However the costumes were top notch in my opinion. Riku's outfit suits him way better than the old one did. The parachute pants he used to wear made me crack up and Sora's pants were toooo short. X_o however Nomura's style with clothes is much better than the creator of Dissidia's obession with beads. (HOW DARE YOU DESTROY SEPHIROTH'S OUTFIT! HE LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS IN THE MIDDLE AGES NOW! ><)

Though sadly they once again forget to give donald duck pants xD

All in all though this game was alright for a sequal. Much better than other sequals I have seen. (Curse of Darkness from Castlevania continues to make me cry when it comes to sticking to the plot of LOI. Gaming was damn good though.)

Let's hope if KH3 comes our way it wont be a utter failure. Til then we hope and pray the birth by sleep and organization XIII based games will satisfy our KH cravings.
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

[quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]Kh2 was easier in some parts. It didnt have as many puzzels as KH did. However the camara was alot better and so was the combat system. HOWEVER if they had gave us multiple button options, people like my brother would have started squawking things like "YOUR RIPPING OFF RE4/GOD OF WAR! >=O" and I doubt Nomura wanted to hear that. Sure I wanted multiple button options like hitting a sequence of different buttons for the SUPER lasor attack at the end Xemnas launches at ya and if you miss one sequence you die. (I love a good challenge x3)

However the costumes were top notch in my opinion. Riku's outfit suits him way better than the old one did. The parachute pants he used to wear made me crack up and Sora's pants were toooo short. X_o however Nomura's style with clothes is much better than the creator of Dissidia's obession with beads. (HOW DARE YOU DESTROY SEPHIROTH'S OUTFIT! HE LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS IN THE MIDDLE AGES NOW! ><Though><)[/quote]

That's Nomura, broski. The guy's kind of a hack now. He was a decent designer during the 90's when they had him on a leash, and he worked hand in hand with Amano, but now they've given him free reign to do whatever, and it's kinda killing Square Enix lately (IE, Squeenix was fucking bleeding money last year).

The only thing Nomura has been a major part of where he didn't go ass wild with belts, zippers, and beads was TWEWY, which was like some terrible science project where everything went terribly right.

Also, I get a lot of what you are saying, but disagree on many levels. The character designs and costumes from KH1 left nothing to be desired, and the sheer amount of overblown and whimsical added to the feel of the game. Which is what it all came down to for me. KH2 didn't feel like the same game, it just felt like KH1 with all the fun sucked out.

Hopefully, BBS will stand up to KH1, since there is going to be a larger focus on the Disney asect again.

Also, 358/2 days is out next week. I played the jap version for about an hour before getting bored. Hopefully the game being in english will help.
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SweetxinsanityxSarah · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject:

I heard 358/2 days was pretty good. I mean who doesnt want to be their favorite Org member running alongside a friend on missions slaying heartless? Im all for that. Plus you get to go through the game as Riku too from what my bf told me. (Demeanor him and I will gut you -loves her bf to death-)

And of course BBS is going to focus on the disney aspect again, tis how everything started when the heartless came etc. Plus im dying to see what the new enemies the unbirth will look like. (Cant look any cooler than Xion's unborn form from BR3)
Plus they should have put Nomura in charge of Dissidia, he would have left the costumes alone for most of the characters. I mean if Sephiroth and Cloud's outfits arent broken, dont fix em! Plus he would have done better with the graphics. Crisis Core's in game scenes and movie sequences still make my jaw drop. They should have done a better job on the fighting system though (what the HELL was with the slot machine option?!) it felt as if you werent really fighting the enemy. Hence why I like KH2 and KH, you can actually run up and bitchslap them if you wanted to when getting angry at the enemy for smacking you around.
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