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Trinity_Fire
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryex, did you mean this?
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39648657/

the bbs code added a 'url' to the end...

Well, about the pic. Not bad. I like the melding of the shading, and the soft, warm colors you used. However, it is terribly simple, and there's really not much else to say. I do love simplicity though, and I do see the inert shading on the highlights and the vase itself. Nice job, just could maybe use some more detail and something more... eye-catching.

Because I've been dying to know what ppl think of this:

My latest success Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, this is verrrrry nice! Okay let's see...

For one thing, I'm just going to say I love your handwriting. Very Happy The style of it fits the picture perfectly. I like the slightly blurred effect with the purple behind it.

Also, I love your art style. The angel who is the focus of the pic is very long and slender and swooping, and this is carried over nicely into the feathers on the wing, and his fingers, and the string/threads on them. Very "flowy". ^^
I really like his hair and expression, and you did a wonderful job with the coloring. All the colors are blended very well.

It's very hard to pick out things that look "wrong" to me, and that's awesome. xDD One thing I did notice though is that his arm, the one that's extended, looks a bit awkward. I think the lower forearm might be a little bit too thick or something. It just seems slightly off.
Overall, this is a beautiful picture. Very Happy I always like looking at your artwork.

Hmm... how 'bout this one for me: Click!
I quite like it, and am interested in what other people think. Hit me! W00t!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, one of the good points is in the details. The folds on her jeans work, it gives the user something to 'feel'.

On the downside, I do notice that the background has more vibrant color than the subject herself does (a slight distraction) and her upper-body wear seems a little flat on the shading compared to the jeans; it's a relative lack of contrast, as the folds are more subtle and not as obvious.

On the flipside, at least the fishnet pattern doesn't fall victim to straight-line syndrome. Wink

It's okay.

So then, someone tell me about this one.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I try not to post too many times here, but there are just so many nice pics that I want to crit! ;o; Sorry!

Okay, strata. I love the pic. Beautiful coloring, lovely highlights and shading and a superb blend of colors. Background and dark and lights there are also wonderfully rendered, and the detail with the scales and the transparency of the wings are all so lovely. Your dragon's got a lovely texture, as do the staff, the rocks in the distance, and the soil/sand beneath his feet.

Shall we get to the nit-picking?
First off, the dragon's lovely, but there are just a few minor anatomical difficulties.

For one, the hand/claw. I can understand wanting something between dragon and anthro, as this is a semi-slightly anthro creation, but all fingers/claws of most animals are quite bony with thin tendons between the joints. Therefore, from monkeys to reptiles to people, you can always see these joints pretty clearly. In the case of your image however, the finger's a bit bulgy and clubby.

Also, about the tail... it's really got a smooth sweep to it, but usually, as a tail leaves the back of the legs, its thickness and width slope off proportionately, and it should never stay the same width. Actually, if you study some reptiles, you'll notice that there's a kind of 'ridge' or spine on the backsides of their bodies starting from between the back legs and along the tail [I think this was true with some tyrannosaurs or somesuch that stood on their back legs] and it's true, skin is stretched tight over the bones and muscles, and they'd not just suddenly hug so tightly to the spine right there behind the legs.

Of course, I know this is fantasy, so we can be lax, but some muscular and physical properties are okay to keep in mind, right?

Also, though the body parts are all nicely done, there's a slight change in proportion throughout. I feel like there's just not enough distance between the legs and the head, you know? If you measure the bottom of the legs to the top, it's the same length as the entire upper body. Usually, legs should come up somewhere around the shoulders for the top half of the body, with plenty of room for the head and neck.
So, perhaps just try to check on proportions next time before beginning an image.

Is there anything else? I do rather feel like, for all the detail on the tail and the scales along the spine, the dragon's face is awfully blank. You've got horns, spines, and jaw there, but there's no indication of a change in shadows or facial features, so it's like a cartoon-style drawing; it lacks some shape, and some depth. And in this case, it renders the dragon's face kind of flat.

Have you ever by chance picked up that Dungeons and Dragon's Draconian breeds book?? The dragon faces there are very sculpted with a fine tune for detail, and the shape of the head is very well-done. It's the perfect guide to drawing dragons, as I'm learning myself, heh.
There are hollows for the eyes, ridges for the cheek, lines following the nose... there's a huge amount of detail for the face. Like, often I find dragon faces compared [just slightly] to horse faces. Same basic lines about the nose, outset eyes, high cheekbones... something like that, right?

My last tip would be a bit more play on shadows on the dragon's face. It's lovely (really), but the way it's turned right from the sunlight [whose light source is quite clear, thank you] there should probably be much more shadow cast upon it.

Just some minor things to keep in mind for the next piece, but truly, sorry for the hard hit, and this really is a lovely piece. Your coloring is one I want to study, quite a lot.
And how you drew those scales. >>;

Awesome job! 8/10!

Well, here's something to be crit'd. Hope no one minds. :3
http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-498917.html
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the idea behind this. I'm glad you didn't make him look like a stereotypical demon, like with horns, a tail, etc. Details! I like the snake, the tatoo, the direction of the wings, and the upside down cross idea. The eyes really look lovely and I love the shading; so very delicate.

On the flipside, though the cross idea is nice, it is rather hard to see as far as just looking at the picture. I'm not so sure that those cross-hatching lines are enough to really bring out that cross; it almost appears like the background was rushed instead of putting the focus on the cross. The only other thing is that the waist area looks too elongated; he has this nice, short, round head and then he looks stretched below his arms...unless that's what you were aiming for.

Still a very good picture; I'd love to see this in color, just out of curiousity. If you ever get the time, I think this would make a wonderful painting. Smile

7/10

Here's mine...

http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-478182.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hot dang!

I haven't been here for a while!

I hope everyone's doing fine. Very Happy

Sailorharmony2000, looks like I'll be doing a critique of your Princess Jasmine Artwork.

To start off, the line work looks very clean. The colors are very good well. Very simple. I also like the way that the pose was done very simple. Nothing too complicated, but not boring either.

I'm not much of a colorist, and I hope you take this with a grain of salt. The colors are very nicely done as I said earlier, but personally, I think it could use a little more. A little more shading around the 'shadowed' areas on Jasmine, like under her chin, a little on her sides, and under her breasts (just to make them rounder and fuller), would have added some more impact on the picture. A few more highlights on her hair would really bring out some "body" in that drawing.

Overall though, it's a well done picture. Very simple, not boring at all. You also captured Disney's Princess Jasmine very well.

I'll give it a 4.5 out of 5.

Great work overall!

Now here's mine.

It's a Tribute to Mr. Kenichi "Ken" Ishikawa, co-creator of the Getter Robo series from the late 70's, who passed away recently.

http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-516524.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah...I see! Now that you mention it, there should be a few more darker shadowed areas. It's strange...I usually try to do that with my anime pictures, but I forget when coloring other types of cartoons, since they're usually not full of such details unless they're in a bright light or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap! Confused

The last comment was Nov. of 2006?

Where have the people gone?

Anywhoo, just to start anew, here's what I've done recently. One of my favorite characters from H.P. Lovecraft's books: Call Of Cthulhu.

Cthulhu himself.

This took me approximately 2 hours to do. Used a mechanical pencil with "B" leads, and a Steadtler 6b wood pencil.

http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc201&image=24814_CallOfCthulhu_122_201lo.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow man thats sick its real detaild i give ya 5 outa 5 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: 0_0 Reply with quote

The over all idea is actually pretty cool. One thing I thought about it was that I like the color you chose for the whole picture. It looked pretty cool. She had a cool style.

But, I didn't care for the pose much. It wasn't horrible but it still confused me why her feet were so turned in...it looked like she was floating. The blank eyes were kind of strange...but they were interesting.

3/5
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehhhh, the users above me didn't post a link, so I'll just critique OMNI-X's.
Not much to say here. I do agree with the feet being turned in a bit, but other than that, not much else to say but wow!

http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-673705.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh. I must say, first impression was real nice.

The hair looks really cool, and so does the shine from the background. You've done a well job on this one. The clothes look pretty relistic too.

My only crit must be the colouring, it looks very good. Though, you could advance it a bit more by adding more vary colours on the skin, like you have done on the lips. It will look much better that way.

As said. It's a great job you've done.

4.5/5

Here's my picture: http://aozame-san.deviantart.com/art/Cat-on-the-Moon-82326508
First time drawing a serious cat. I usually draw dogs and humans.

btw, I hung this up in school and some moron decided to draw on it. I got really pissed, and you can see where he/she drew, even though I tried to cover it as much as I could.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suck at critique, but I'll try. I think you need to ditch the shading on the cat altogether if you're gonna have the background black, like space. Otherwise you can't make out the cat too well. Just use outlines instead. Still, you got the proportions right. I suggest you try drawing the thing again and see what happens. Oh... the moon could be bigger, or better yet, just do half of a moon at the bottom, like it's some kind of semi-cirlce and the cat ontop of that.

Hope I didn't sound too harsh for you. Mine? Well... http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-681779.html See what you lot make of this. Hit me, please.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi wrote:
I suck at critique, but I'll try. I think you need to ditch the shading on the cat altogether if you're gonna have the background black, like space. Otherwise you can't make out the cat too well. Just use outlines instead. Still, you got the proportions right. I suggest you try drawing the thing again and see what happens. Oh... the moon could be bigger, or better yet, just do half of a moon at the bottom, like it's some kind of semi-cirlce and the cat ontop of that.

Hope I didn't sound too harsh for you. Mine? Well... http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-681779.html See what you lot make of this. Hit me, please.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rats. That must have been a pic I no longer liked up there, and deleted it. Sorry. But if still interested, here's another one: http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-706837.html
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, could be better. Wink
I've learned that a figure stands 6 or 7 heads tall, yours is 8, which could work for a stylised figure, but I wouldn't recommend it for your style. If you look past that though, your proportions are really good. Arms and legs as they should be (although the neck could be a little shorter in comparisation to the head).
The face looks really good too, but as you mentioned in the comment box, the eyes are lopsided. I hope you use guidlines, if not you're damn good.
You could improve on studying the shape. The poor boy has got little wrist and shoulder. You could google up some references or look at your own arms and hands when you work. I don't know how you are on legs though, since he's wearing pants.
The shading looks really good and it's a solid figure overall. The anatomy is okay and the shading is fine. I hope you keep up the great work.

http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-702762.html
If it's not too much trouble. I'd like to know what I should work on regarding my next piece, not what I should change about this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryjia: In terms of working towards realism, you need to be very conscious of creating a believable structure through the materials. The hatches/lines you've done on his clothes allow one to imagine how it would fold relatively easily, though because they are there, prohibit it from becoming anything more than a drawing. The piece, while excellent, it somewhere in between the realm of realism and stylization, what with the noticeable pencil movements and outlines.

Push yourself harder. You've all ready the skill of creating likeness. Now it's time to fool people into thinking your work is a photograph.

As for mine, I submit this vexel.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think you should make the background a plain colour with the same whispy lines running through it. It'd make the character stand out much better. Also, you seem to have trouble with darker shades and where to put them, as well as you don't seem to have a definate light source. I should put the light source on the front parts of the character and work from there. Sorry to be so harsh.

Here be mine: http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-783890.html
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