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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:41 am    Post subject: Butch Hartman Oaxis Reply with quote

I saw that thread on Toonzone along with another one at Kiwifarms about Butch Hartman who created Fairly Oddparents and Danny Phantom, started a streaming service named Oaxis but not without controversy.
https://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/butch-hartman-developing-new-svod-service-oaxis.5666021
http://archive.is/4ehux

along with some journal entries on Deviantart.
https://www.deviantart.com/starlightggiantess5/journal/So-let-s-talk-about-Butch-Hartman-755149630
https://www.deviantart.com/kouliousis/journal/Butch-Hartman-is-a-Horrible-Person-with-Proof-755254840

Looks like Butch Hartman is now in hot water by reading these various comments along with various vlogs posted on Youtube.

I hate to said this but one user on Kiwifarms had it right.
http://archive.is/4ehux#selection-1561.1-1565.529

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Out of curiosity did he ever make a comment on the Andrew Weiss debacle?

Butch doing this isn't new or unexpected. He is amazingly quick on the uptake and to protect his "Brand", which is him by the way. He knows that selling this site as a Christian site would doom it in the press and online, so he just hid that part from the mainstream but shared it with his Bible Thumping Compadres. The Prog's will boycott anything that sounds like it might be tied to Christainity. If he had used Islam instead, tho? It would have been plastered all over everything, giving him that sweet advertising for free.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit more on the table, Coonfoot now known as Raccoonfoot posted this DA fanart about Hartman fans.
https://www.deviantart.com/raccoonfoot/art/Hartman-Fans-in-a-Nutshell-207632020?
Archived
https://web.archive.org/web/20180719171902/https://www.deviantart.com/raccoonfoot/art/Hartman-Fans-in-a-Nutshell-207632020

There's more comments from him. I wonder if Butch Hartman was libertarian like the South Park creators, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, if he would had sing a different song?
https://www.deviantart.com/raccoonfoot/status/7256760?rnrd=256736
https://www.deviantart.com/raccoonfoot/status/6431409?rnrd=256736

I wonder if Coonfoot will give a new review of the ill-fated FOP(Fairly Oddparents) live-action movie "Grow up Timmy Turner"?
https://www.deviantart.com/raccoonfoot/journal/Grow-Up-Timmy-Turner-Review-217592282
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who would have know, that Hartman's fans are THAT obnoxious. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:
Who would have know, that Hartman's fans are THAT obnoxious. Wink


Yeah, I guess we better archive their comments on Archive.is and on the Wayback Machine before they deleted them. Wink

Edit: I archived StarlightGGiantess5's journal
https://web.archive.org/web/20180719215234/https://www.deviantart.com/starlightggiantess5/journal/So-let-s-talk-about-Butch-Hartman-755149630
http://archive.is/c7aYz

I guess I'm gonna have lots of ennemies and foes with that Willy Wonka meme.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on, Stephane - standing for just values always triggers the bad guys, but the final outcome is that they are those, who achieve the worst failures.

Look at those, who made riots in Berkeley in the Easter 2017 (especially on "Moldylocks") - the society they counted on so dearly failed them really bad. Or "Nutzak Sempai" (Nayzak), Carlos Latuff and similar radical Muslims on deviantART - instead of spreading their so-called "religion of peace", their preachings led to more people seeing through the veil created by the Islamists, thus distrusting this religion.


I'm pretty sure the same will be with your latest meme - hope some of those obnoxious Hartman fans will realize being wrong. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh come on, Stephane - standing for just values always triggers the bad guys, but the final outcome is that they are those, who achieve the worst failures.

Look at those, who made riots in Berkeley in the Easter 2017 (especially on "Moldylocks") - the society they counted on so dearly failed them really bad. Or "Nutzak Sempai" (Nayzak), Carlos Latuff and similar radical Muslims on deviantART - instead of spreading their so-called "religion of peace", their preachings led to more people seeing through the veil created by the Islamists, thus distrusting this religion.


I'm pretty sure the same will be with your latest meme - hope some of those obnoxious Hartman fans will realize being wrong. Wink


Yeah but the way then Butch Hartman also talked of suicide when he launched his new stuff as mentionned on the Toonzone forums didn't helped the situation either.
I quote a post from Toonzone poster.
https://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/butch-hartman-developing-new-svod-service-oaxis.5666021/page-5

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Out of everything that came from this video, his comment about suicide was by far the worst. The whole "kids just toughed it out instead of committing suicide back in my day" is just awful. Either he has forgotten what it can feel like to be a kid or his life was so well off that he didn't go through any difficult challenges as a child. Both are sadly good possibilities. I absolutely hated being told to just tough it out/deal with it, so that response to problems won't work for a lot of kids. There are also plenty of reasons why kids would be driven to suicide. Schools are awful, there are plenty of terrible teachers, bullies exist and there are emotionally/physically abusive parents out there. Not to mention just having depression in itself can push people to suicide.


If they think the way Butch Hartman had said about suicide is awful, I guess I won't mention these vlogs from Aaron Clarey alias Captain Capitalism talking on the subject, they'll be full triggered. The oldest videos are from 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-G0cho-1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYwS9dtAm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vLnMCIUwVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCg3ZdGtMc

I guess it might be in vain to mention a movie titled "Malarek" (1989) based on the autobiography of Victor Malarek, a Canadian journalist who was once a streetwise kid who emerges from a violent and unjust background to become one of journalism's top reporters.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097818/
I just warn then some scenes of the movie have some scenes who might disturb younger audiences, viewer discretion is advised and some names had been changed to protect the security of some citizens. I guess they could explain why they changed the newspaper where Malarek worked for, the Montreal Star (a newspaper who shutted down in 1979 after a long strike), for the Montreal Tribune when Malarek beginned to work as a journalist in the early 1970s. Here the link to the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZacF312h1E

I can already imagine the folks saying back then "that was different then...".
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch! I saw that one on Twitter and that won't help Butch Hartman.
https://www.twitter.com/FRANKIE_MENT4L/status/1020137969385197568

Edit: The Butch Hartman thread on Kiwifarms is 4 pages long now.
http://archive.is/wf9eB

Edit #2: Some folks on Kiwifarms already gamble on what kind of future skeleton scandal might go off from Butch Hartman's closet.
http://archive.is/cqxnR#selection-2421.1-2431.23

Edit #3: Light Lucario posted a very interesting info worth to quote. https://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/butch-hartman-developing-new-svod-service-oaxis.5666021/page-5#post-86491121

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That would explain a lot about his behavior, especially making comments about how he created people's childhoods. He made at least two successful series, but that isn't the same thing as creating people's childhoods. Not to mention I'm not sure how his Christian values are presented in all of his shows.

As bad as this situation turned out, I don't think he was trying to convert children into Christianity through Oaxis. The whole saving lives and families does kind of give off that implication, but I think he wanted to just put out more family friendly programming with Christian values behind it. That in itself isn't a bad thing. Like I said before, as long as he isn't insulting other people by doing so, that is a fine thing to do, but he just needed to be upfront about it. The fact that he wasn't heavily implies that he wouldn't get the funding in time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw this Twitter post via a post on Kiwifarms, looks like Butch Hartman have more bigger troubles. I don't know if it'll got the same impacts as Chris Savino, John K and Dan Schneider.
http://archive.is/kbB81
http://archive.is/kbB81#selection-3037.0-3043.43
https://twitter.com/lilpeoplez/status/1020351632507219973

Edit: If that Bethel Church is akin to the Church of Scientology long promoted by Tom Cruise, John Travolta. etc...Butch Hartman had menaged to footshoot himself in the foot.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumas wrote:
I saw this Twitter post via a post on Kiwifarms, looks like Butch Hartman have more bigger troubles. I don't know if it'll got the same impacts as Chris Savino, John K and Dan Schneider.
http://archive.is/kbB81
http://archive.is/kbB81#selection-3037.0-3043.43
https://twitter.com/lilpeoplez/status/1020351632507219973

Edit: If that Bethel Church is akin to the Church of Scientology long promoted by Tom Cruise, John Travolta. etc...Butch Hartman had menaged to footshoot himself in the foot.



Having read its main page https://www.bethel.com/ and Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel_Church_(Redding,_California) - at first glance it seems like one of many independent Protestant Churches you can see in the USA.
But since it originates from California, the den of leftism, Bethel's dogma sounds suspicious with their background. Wouldn't be amazed if it happened to be one of those cults using the veil of Christianity.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:


Having read its main page https://www.bethel.com/ and Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel_Church_(Redding,_California) - at first glance it seems like one of many independent Protestant Churches you can see in the USA.
But since it originates from California, the den of leftism, Bethel's dogma sounds suspicious with their background. Wouldn't be amazed if it happened to be one of those cults using the veil of Christianity.


I begin to ponder the same thing.

I spotted a vlog about Butch Hartman where they mentionned some of Butch Hartman's flio-flops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9MDy6Euqo
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Butch Hartman thread on Kiwifarms is at 7 pages.

And there an additionnal article about the Bethel Church.
http://archive.fo/LSgv6#selection-4137.0-4143.73
I link it to an archived copy on the Wayback Machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180722113226/https://brucegerencser.net/2016/02/bethel-redding-dangerous-evangelical-cult/

The guy in question who did that article is now an atheist but as South Park proved, the harmony they thought might be an illusion as well.
https://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Go_God_Go
https://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Go_God_Go_XII
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that Oaxis thing do, is it hurt Butch Hartman and allow Dan Schneider some breath because not a lot of people will think about Dan Schneider antics while Butch Hartman got bashed and that was worth for a meme.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butch Hartman posted a reply to this on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/realhartman/status/1022212126796988416

Some replies to Butch's replies with a post on Toonzone and vlogs.
https://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/butch-hartman-developing-new-svod-service-oaxis.5666021/page-7#post-86507752

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Holly molly, the animation community's more well known youtubers immediately respond to Butch's response on Twitter.

But what about mine? Well-- I'm sick of it. Following every single new evidence that proves that Butch is guilty/not guilty, again, and again.... and while I understand those who are obsessed with finding more pieces to solve this case, maybe because past experiences of me taking part in important dramas, make me heavily understand them, this one is centered around a guy that as hard as you try, you won't be able to find his true colors. In which case, the only thing left to do, is seeing how this "project" if you even want to call that anymore, turns out. It may be great and the end..... who knows?

Oh, and on top of that, even THAT response is lacking crucial understatement of what kind of community Butch is dealing with. He says how he loves his fans, even though he would tend to react in a immature way to most people criticizing him, which amount to an important amount of his fan base. And about that oaxis not being Christian only, it would have been better if he was addressing that answer he made on a Livestream of him, that started all this mess.

And he has to stop saying how he made our childhood. The creator of Zim in a tweet of him, overacts a bit about how people say to him how he made their childhood, but he brings a crucial point about how parents are the real people playing a major role in childhood (all other influential things come below that).


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBUlY888w2o
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I revive this thread a bit just to mention this Butch Hartman related meme I found by luck on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/RegularJames92/status/1180660395251585030
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