No Warning?

Stratadrake · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject:

Before I begin, I'm 23 years old and I browse mostly with Netscape 7.0.

The other day I ran across a few R/NC-17 images. I found them offensive in short order -- but don't mind that, they [i]were[/i] accurately labelled with warnings and I'm not complaining about [i]that[/i].

One thing, though, that did catch me by surprise: I saw no warning message about it being potentially offensive when I opened the links. Why? I looked at the HTML code, sure enough the warning box is there in plain Javascript, so how come I wasn't given the warning? Well, the answer was simple. Netscape 7 features 'tabbed browsing', loading multiple webpages within a single window. Because of this, I've developed a strong habit of right-clicking on links and choosing "Open in new tab". Turns out that by [i]right-[/i]clicking the links I circumvent the warning box (the "onclick" event only catches regular i.e. left-button mouse clicks), and in fact in IE I can also circumvent the warning box by right-clicking and choosing "Open in New Window".

Whereas if I click normally on the link the warning box shows up right on schedule.

I did some experimenting with a dummy HTML file and found out that if the coding is changed to use the "onmousedown" or "onmouseup" events, then the warning message box will appear regardless of which button I click the link with. But then for some reason the links themselves don't want to work anymore in IE. And on the other hand, with Netscape I can disable Javascript entirely and in so doing block the warning boxes. Is there a way around this? Just about the only one I could think of would be to write a PHP script to display the warning box on a page (and have it, in turn, load the actual picture -- the referring URL could feasiably be used to keep a adult picture from being accessed directly).

I know that would be putting [i]even more[/i] work on the webmaster, and honestly I don't see this as much of a problem. It just kinda bothered me that the warning message was so easy to get around. I'm 23, but for all this computer knows I could've just as easily been 13 or even younger.
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cstdenis · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject:

Javascript is the only practical way of doing anything about this.

A php based warning page would be very annoying.

I may change the warning in the future to onpageload for the image page instead of the link (I've seen other sites do this), but there is no good solution to the disabling JavaScript problem. The warnings are a best effort system, not a guarantee.
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Stratadrake · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject:

[quote]The warnings are a best effort system, not a guarantee.[/quote]

Indeed, ultimately the honor system is the only tool for this.

I do some programming so I also have an idea of how much work it would be to try making a fix for it -- yes, a PHP script solely for the warning would be a bit annoying to the viewer. Hmm... another possibility could be to integrate a Javascript warning into the pictures.php script itself, e.g. for an R/NC-17 picture, it could load a placeholder for the image (like what it does for Thumbnail View), with a link that uses Javascript to display the warning box and (if 'OK') to switch the placeholder for the actual pic. It would still take a bit of script-work and it would still mean an extra click for the user, though....

I'm not worried. This ain't a "Fix or I'll leave" issue, hell it isn't even an "I think this is really wrong" issue. In fact, I wouldn't even have noticed if I clicked on links like normal people Laughing

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cstdenis · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject:

I may do that.

As i said[quote]I may change the warning in the future to onpageload for the image page[/quote]
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