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Deus
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: stolen narutos! Reply with quote

i have reason to believe that this one person has been taking screep caps and fixing them to look handmad(you know what i mean...) and one looks obvioulsly photoshoped so badly, it hurts...

here they are

this one is of gaara pre and post kazekage
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/--stolengaara.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/--stolengaaratimeskip.png

this one is of naruto himself, pre and post time skip
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/--stolennaruto.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/--stolennarutotimeskip.png

and theres even one off rock lee too
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/--stolenlee.jpg

they look too perfect to be made in just a program without somekinda help...
it might just be me, but they do look stolen to me...but i might not be able to find the originals...

help me here!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time skip naruto (ch 245, pg 6): http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/ayokaeu/naruto1.png

Time skip gaara (ch 248, pg 8): http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/ayokaeu/gaara1.png


The other three are hard to find. Nothing all that unusual going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some of the originals

[url=http://www.hidden-sand.net/images/gaara.jpg]Gaara pic 1[/url]
[url=http://gaara-08.skyblog.com/pics/462339336_small.jpg]Gaara pic 2[/url]

[url=http://home.hia.no/~paulr04/fan/Uzumaki%20Naruto.jpg]Naruto pic 1[/url]
[url=http://images.google.ca/images?q=Naruto&ndsp=20&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=420&sa=N]Naruto pic 2[/url]<---you can see the pic but the site is down (it's all I could find)

[url=http://www.absoluteanime.com/naruto/rock.jpg]Lee pic[/url]
this person didn't do that great of a stealing job Blah It was too easy to find the pics . . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey thanks...this person really shouldnt do this, i mean...it makes you look like a really bad person, stealing and stuff...

well, i got another one! cleaning up is what i do best!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have found more! although i dont know if anyone else has said anything about them yet...

but i cant find them...the sakura ones anyways...if you google deidara, you find that piccie of him everyplace, and its all over in deviant art as well

not very smart to copy a well used piccie, is it?

all of them are of sakura, that this one person claims them not to be, and one of deidara too.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/morestoleness-1.png
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/morestolenthings.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolensakura.png
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/moestolensakura.png
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the links aren't working
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they work...

and i found another gallery full of screenshots...

gohd, do people really think that they can get away with this stuff?

here are links to the stolen ones...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenasuma.jpg
this one is of asuma, and the screen cap is from the anime
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenmizuki.jpg
this one is of mizuki, and is also from he anime...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenorochi.jpg
i have nothing in particular to say about this orochimaru piccie
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg
this one is of kakashi and sakura...that sakura is from the anime when she notices sasukes head in the ground, then faints...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakon.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenukon.jpg
both of these ones are of sakon, the two headed person that follows orochimaru around...these are from the anime as well...i know this cuz i saw them as i watched them...

these are just too good...

this is examples of other art they have...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerartsagain.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg

thse are abosolutly not as good as the other ones...but yeah...you cant go from this
[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg[/img]

to this

[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg[/img]

in only a matter of one month...

there are some other ones in this persons gallery, but yeah...they are quite questionable to my mind as the integriety of them or not...theyre borderline...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the links above are not working and say " Sorry, the page you requested was not found"

Anyway, Here's some pic I found

[url=http://thegreatchronos.free.fr/persos/61.JPG]original 1[/url]
[url=http://total.naruto.free.fr/sceaux/Sakon.jpg]original 2[/url]
[url=http://www.nautiljon.com/images/perso/miniatures/Naruto/sarutobi_asuma.jpg]original 3[/url]
[url=http://www.nautiljon.com/images/perso/grandes/Naruto/mizuki.jpg]original 4[/url]

that's all I have time to look up right now
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]they work...

and i found another gallery full of screenshots...

gohd, do people really think that they can get away with this stuff?

here are links to the stolen ones...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenasuma.jpg
this one is of asuma, and the screen cap is from the anime
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenmizuki.jpg
this one is of mizuki, and is also from he anime...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenorochi.jpg
i have nothing in particular to say about this orochimaru piccie
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg
this one is of kakashi and sakura...that sakura is from the anime when she notices sasukes head in the ground, then faints...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakon.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenukon.jpg
both of these ones are of sakon, the two headed person that follows orochimaru around...these are from the anime as well...i know this cuz i saw them as i watched them...

these are just too good...

this is examples of other art they have...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerartsagain.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg

thse are abosolutly not as good as the other ones...but yeah...you cant go from this
[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg[/img]

to this

[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg[/img]

in only a matter of one month...

there are some other ones in this persons gallery, but yeah...they are quite questionable to my mind as the integriety of them or not...theyre borderline...[/quote]

Those aren't stolen, they're directly referenced. You can tell they're that person's work because
1. They're not done as well as the creators' work.
2. They're coloured the same way as all the others.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but still, they way they look is too clean cut.

i still say that theyre stolen, no matter what YOU say.

and you still can progress hat much in one month.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, it's a lot easier to draw something when you have a reference.

The fact that the lines are sketchy and that they're all coloured in pencil crayon in the same way...kind of proves that the person did work on them.

And please, I do approvals. You don't have to care what I say, but you'd better bet that when I see a stolen artwork I won't approve it.

BTW, some people drew a lot and didn't upload. In 1 week on DA I uploaded 15 pictures, doesn't mean I did them all at once.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the whole "progression in one month" thing... You know, people don't always draw the same stuff/style over and over again. I, for one, draw loads and loads of really shitty crack-addicted doodles in my spare time. If I like them, or if I think they're funny, I scan them with the rest of my stuff. :\


btw, FAC doesn't have a rule against using references. :l I think it's pretty obvious that those weren't stolen... You guys don't even have solid proof it's "theft" beyond "it looks like this other picture, lolz". :l
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone listen to Fayore. Unless you can find the originals, [b]we can't actually [i]prove[/i] a damned thing[/b]. And we're not going to delete a picture just on suspicion alone.

FAC has a rule against direct referencing (i.e. tracing), but the exact guidelines for determining when that is the case are, well... a bit fuzzy.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did the originals I find not count Strata?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must've missed those in all the commotion. Oops....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Deus"]they work...

and i found another gallery full of screenshots...

gohd, do people really think that they can get away with this stuff?

here are links to the stolen ones...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenasuma.jpg
this one is of asuma, and the screen cap is from the anime
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenmizuki.jpg
this one is of mizuki, and is also from he anime...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenorochi.jpg
i have nothing in particular to say about this orochimaru piccie
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg
this one is of kakashi and sakura...that sakura is from the anime when she notices sasukes head in the ground, then faints...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakon.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenukon.jpg
both of these ones are of sakon, the two headed person that follows orochimaru around...these are from the anime as well...i know this cuz i saw them as i watched them...

these are just too good...

this is examples of other art they have...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerartsagain.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg

thse are abosolutly not as good as the other ones...but yeah...you cant go from this
[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg[/img]

to this

[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg[/img]

in only a matter of one month...

there are some other ones in this persons gallery, but yeah...they are quite questionable to my mind as the integriety of them or not...theyre borderline...[/quote]

these aren't stolen, but one thing.. you CAN make such a huge improvement in one month, it's possible. I don't say this is one, but it is possible...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Deus"]they work...

and i found another gallery full of screenshots...

gohd, do people really think that they can get away with this stuff?

here are links to the stolen ones...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenasuma.jpg
this one is of asuma, and the screen cap is from the anime
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenmizuki.jpg
this one is of mizuki, and is also from he anime...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenorochi.jpg
i have nothing in particular to say about this orochimaru piccie
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg
this one is of kakashi and sakura...that sakura is from the anime when she notices sasukes head in the ground, then faints...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakon.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolenukon.jpg
both of these ones are of sakon, the two headed person that follows orochimaru around...these are from the anime as well...i know this cuz i saw them as i watched them...

these are just too good...

this is examples of other art they have...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerartsagain.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg

thse are abosolutly not as good as the other ones...but yeah...you cant go from this
[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/everything%20else/newerarts.jpg[/img]

to this

[img]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/masterdeus/stolen%20art/stolensakuraandkakshi.jpg[/img]

in only a matter of one month...

there are some other ones in this persons gallery, but yeah...they are quite questionable to my mind as the integriety of them or not...theyre borderline...[/quote]



About the matter of being able to improve within a month that much...i believe to be possible. I did. It all depends on how much detication you put into it. I hope you didn't judge by how quickly they supposedly developed. That would be messed up.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: that crap about progression in one month Reply with quote

In summation:


1. People can draw random crap doodles and upload them if they like. There is no rule against this. Not every picture will have the utmost effort and dedication put into it.

2. That date is the date of SUBMISSION. It is not a time stamp for when the user [i]drew[/i] it. We don't know when it is. It could've been that day. It could've been months ago. We. don't. know. All we know is that that was the day they decided to put the picture on FAC.



Someone close this thread. I think it's pretty evident that the images were not stolen; they were probably referenced but likely not traced as there are plenty of flaws in the drawings themselves.
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