Psuedomei, anyone disgusted by it around here?

gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

I cant help it
I cant like shows that are Psuedomei
the art value and stroylines our crap most of the time.
get what I mean?

SilverKitsune · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject:

What is psuedomei?
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Touzoku-joou · Oldbie Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb

... the hell?
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

Yes I must explain
you see Psudomei are American cartoons meant to be like anime
shows like Teen titans or W.I.T.C.H.

not exactly what I would praise

they use that computer coloring all wrong,makes it to glossy.

Touzoku-joou · Oldbie Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb

Looking at your profile, I see that some of your favorite pictures and favorite artists are non-Japanese people that draw in a decidedly "anime" art style.

Isn't that a bit against what you're saying here?

go away
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

OK first of all I AM NOT LEAVING!
heh no way
second of all
That is not what I am talking About you miss the point
I am not Japanese either but I still try to Follow the rules of anime profesionally
which is something else that American animators like from DC or Marathon
dont do they Slide cameras too fast or they make the movements all cheap
they make up all these tacky costumes and character designs that seem to be the product of what I call "Blending" meaning they just draw what randomly comes into mind
this is especially done with the show Teen titans
character back stories are also at a lost most of the time
like when the show debut's its Just another Episode
Theres no.....beginning for the character

Its annoying to me
Now not all anime from the west is bad like for example
Kappa mikey
the art is Not very good BUT
I can tell that they knew what they were doing because they made a lot of real anime references and above that the show was Hilarious

Kitzy · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

You realize they're being true to the style of anime by making it cheaply animated? Confused

If you want some quality professional work, Disney and Pixar are the ones you should be into.

Those pseudomei shows are just trying to get in on where the money is at. If you don't like it, you technically don't have to watch it. If people like it, the more power to them.
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Touzoku-joou · Oldbie Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb

Oh, and by the way, all cartoons are technically "anime", seeing as how it means "animation". Your point still fails.
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

Touzoku....

that has nothing to do with what I am saying
I already Know that anime is short for animation
But when I say anime you Know what I am talking about...
so Dont BS me

and Kitzy
Walt helped make anime Himself!
he suggested to Tezuka that His characters should have Big eyes
And Hiyao Miazaki, His stuff is the best Anime has to offer
Limited animation?
In the 60's yes
Today NO!!!
Compare Samurai champloo against W.I.T.C.H. and tell me which is better

no contest

Kitzy · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:

[quote]
and Kitzy
Walt helped make anime Himself!
he suggested to Tezuka that His characters should have Big eyes
And Hiyao Miazaki, His stuff is the best Anime has to offer
Limited animation?
In the 60's yes
Today NO!!!
Compare Samurai champloo against W.I.T.C.H. and tell me which is better

no contest[/quote]

I'm not talking about comparing anime to poorly made cartoons. Anyone can see that those American animators are making cheap versions anyway. I'm saying compare it to Disney shows.
And yeah, I love Miyazaki's work because he puts time and effort into it. I'm not talking about movies here, though. I'm talking about animated series.

If you were to take anime and compare most of these run-of-the mill shonen/shojo series, you'll find that they're really not all that different from the low budget ripoff anime shows made in North America. The Japanese want their animation to be cheap, and some North American cartooning companies decide to try that as well. Make something that's a fad, cheap to make and cheap to animate. As long as kids are watching it, they make money.
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LunaticCrow · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject:

Gargoyles = Better than most anime. Actually, It's pretty safe to say that most cartoons made around that time are better than most anime.

Buut, that's not the point. The point is, if it's entertaining nobody gives a shit. Alot of really good anime this year have had not-so-excellent animation, but were really fun to watch.

Oh, and Samurai Champloo versus a show like W.I.T.C.H is extremely unfair and insulting to Kazuto Nakazawa. A fairer comparison would be a show like that gay Powerpuff Girls anime vs W.I.T.C.H.
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

Anime is not cheaply animated!!!!
I mean look at the fight scenes in Samurai champloo
Cowboy Bebop,Ruonin Kenshin,FMA!!!!

great fast pace fighting sequences,great coloring,good epic story lines
I LUV EM

and why is every one throwing Disney at me?
I know there good I love Fantaisia
but Disney is not the Issue here
American cartoons are not the Issue here
Crappy American drawn anime is!
agian not all Psuedomei is bad like Avatar they try to be authentic to Chinese
culture I appreciate that but still some things are kind of off like the the names, are tottaly made up I mean Sokka? sounds like a british man trying to say Soccer.
and Katara sounds like its made up and Zuko is kind of cheesy sounding too
but still they are in a made up place so Im not bothered by it
the authenticity of the Kung fu is very good.
see these guys follow most of the rules of Anime

Ok so Lunaticcrow wants a Fair contest......
alright then Gundam vs. Super hyper sumthin sumthin Monkey force go

the robot in monkey force is a peice of S**t who ever drew that was an idiot.

C'mon somebody has to feel the same way about this

LunaticCrow · Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:41 am Post subject:

If you're comparing a shitty gundam like, say, SEED or WING, then maybe. But comparing the whole metaseries? No.

Most, if not all anime is cheaply animated. Alot of series look like complete shit for a good number of the episodes and they redo them before they put them on DVD. Some series just look like shit (xxxHolic comes to mind)
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

ok.......

Has anyone seen the intro to samurai champloo.... Blah

yes or no

Touzoku-joou · Oldbie Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb

It's an amazing intro animation, but what the hell does that have to do with [i]anything[/i]?

By the way, what are these "rules of anime" that you seem to think everyone should follow? Last time I checked, there weren't any specific rules anyone had to follow. Because, again, that would be comparing shows like Crayon Shin-chan with, as you keep trying to bring up, Samurai Champloo.
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

Touzoku-joou · Oldbie Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb

I'm glad that's settled then.

General knowledge: Don't start a debate or complaint unless you have enough arguments to back your side up. :3
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

O.....K.......
the intro has a lot to do with it!
I mean if a person just wants to see the anime "style"
then the beginning tells a lot for example,FMA.progressive,uplifting,and full of potent adventure now take Cowboy Bebop for example. Cool,Jazzy,and intresting

now the rules of anime are not written down in stone it is true that you can tweak'em
a bit because lets face it, Ideas are getting scarce.
1. an anime should have good character design with a purpose meaning like
is this guy big to be strong is this guy wearing glasses to be a nerd character?
is this girl dressing all prepy because she loves fashion? you know,that stuff.

2. anime should follow mainstream face style the pupils should look like anime pupils
although there can be some exceptions like in stead of using your run of the mill big eye
you can do sharp and narrow with small pupils just dont over use it. create a variety
also drawing the nose dont try drawing the whole thing try drawing the shade of it of course it varies some times big mouths or little mouths depending on character and such

3 detailed coloring and shading, marathon breaks this rule all the time.
(too glossy!) ><

4 good action choreography

5 level of art seriousness in a comedy you can make the art very low grade because its funny,funny is the focus. but in a serious anime the art should look good of course cromartie high school was mixed in art grade making it more comic

6continuating story line this rule can only be broken if the anime is a comedy

7expressions for comic relief if there be a need for it,they should occur at the appropriate time (sweat drop, goofy face, blush lines, etc.)

8 realism this make's good anime good anime. this means that there should be a good reason for anything important to the show like for instance why is this guy so tough or why does this robot have lasers instead of bullets

9 Good story line that makes sense

these are the principles that I believe should go into making an anime
remember that the rules can be tweaked a little bit
but psudomei tweaks OVER LIMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by the way crow.....are we even on the same page on comparisons?
when I said Gundam vs monkey force I meant that the gundam shows were better not worse!

gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

DID YOU THINK I WAS GIVING UP

YOU ARE SO NAIVE!!!!!!HAHAHAHA!!!!! Twisted Evil

gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

IVE GOT ENOUGH ARGUMENTS TO LAST AN ETERNITY