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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: sailor moon trace? Reply with quote



Halp.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: hmm Reply with quote

I know this user very well.And I do know where she got the picture. But she Has mentioned that Most of here work is just coloring pages. She doesn't know any better. She is very Nyeave and very kind. She try's her best and just want the world to think the best of her. I am assuming she is very young, if you have ever talked to her you'll see that she is very innocent. She was just using that picture and others for her stories. she ment no harm.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Coloring pages" created specifically to be used by other people aren't bad as tracing over screenshots, etc.

The main issue here is attribution, being able to cite the original piece and owner so that we staff members can actually determine whether there's explicit permission given (unlikely), implicit permission, or none at all.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if someone is posting these coloring pages on a web site for people to use, Isn't that just the same as giving permission? Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuxedo_Mini_Mask wrote:
But if someone is posting these coloring pages on a web site for people to use, Isn't that just the same as giving permission? Shocked


Not necessarily, Nine times out of ten the stipulations of use state that it is for private use only.

This means...that a individual may print and color the imagery but they arr not permitted to put the final peice on public display. This site is puplic display and thus in violation with such stipulations.

This is why we need links to sites to verify the permit.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Additionally, if the "coloring page" or "template" was created from a screenshot, manga page, etc., then it's not valid for use in coloring ANYWAY due to using copyrighted material w/o permission itself.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Lol Reply with quote

But what if she says it isn't hers, Does it really count as stealing, wouldn't it just count as an edit? lol I see tons of edits all the time on this site.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Lol Reply with quote

Tuxedo_Mini_Mask wrote:
But what if she says it isn't hers, Does it really count as stealing, wouldn't it just count as an edit? lol I see tons of edits all the time on this site.


Then report them. Frankly I've never understood that argument everytime I hear/read it.

"X is not her picture. It should be taken down."
"But I see people posting pics that aren't theirs!"
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But what if she says it isn't hers...

...Then she's still breaking rules by uploading it in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Lol Reply with quote

Tuxedo_Mini_Mask wrote:
But what if she says it isn't hers, Does it really count as stealing, wouldn't it just count as an edit? lol I see tons of edits all the time on this site.


It only counts as a justified edit if we can confirm that the user was given auytherization to edit and post.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

may i point out that nintendo has copyright over any pokemon related matter no matter who does it? in fact its like that with just about all images on here. any 1 gets vindictive and boom fac goes byebye. only way t stay on the white side of the legality thing is completly original art thought of by the user. otherwise its woking in the halflight of the law all the way to illegal. just pointing this out
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquaeevee wrote:
may i point out that nintendo has copyright over any pokemon related matter no matter who does it? in fact its like that with just about all images on here. any 1 gets vindictive and boom fac goes byebye. only way t stay on the white side of the legality thing is completly original art thought of by the user. otherwise its woking in the halflight of the law all the way to illegal. just pointing this out


You do not understand Copyright laws at all.


You could not be further off base, Nintendo does hold copyright over Pokemon, however this gives them no right whatsoever to an individuals original Derivitive work. Derivitive works are copyright to their respective creator, (IE the person who put it on to a fixed medium). Derivitive works include any and all imagery, literary works, musical works, including any accompanying words, and architectural works that are derived from an existing previously copyrighted design.



Now, no one can hold a copyright on an idea, so this means that just because someone is drawing Pokemon, the fact the ideaology of the charachters is not original does not in anyway negate the originality of the derivitive works image they created baised on Pokemon.

FAC will not go Byebye, the majority of works displayed on this site are derivitive works and are protected by copyright to the ones who created the individual images
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strictly speaking, Nintendo's copyright over Pokemon applies only to the game's source code and resource data, e.g. event scripting, music tracks, background graphics, and character sprites (which is why you can't use official sprites for a submission).

They also posess a trademark over the Pokémon name and logo.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stratadrake wrote:
Strictly speaking, Nintendo's copyright over Pokemon applies only to the game's source code and resource data, e.g. event scripting, music tracks, background graphics, and character sprites (which is why you can't use official sprites for a submission).

They also posess a trademark over the Pokémon name and logo.


Yup, and Sadly so many confuse trademark with copyright. We'll see that arguement again.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: here Reply with quote

syrin.dragonrhapsody.com/colouring.php


take it, shes a b*tch, I tried to help her and she refused... Here it is... all of her stolen work...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O WAITE....Sorry for being kinda slow here, but did she not post who the original artist(s) were in her pictures' descriptions?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been so long I forget who the user in question even was....

I also wonder how much we actually need the anonymity rule these days.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know who exactly just who this suspected person is but I can't remember their name right now....I gotta look it up. If I find it should I PM it to you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought the anonymity rule was a little silly, anyway. If I'm ever that curious about who the "artist" is I just do a search for the image, I always wind up finding it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: sdfghjk Reply with quote

I am not sure i AGREE ABOUT THE RULE, I haven't really thought about it...


But anyways, She claimed it was hers. OM of her user name coming your name
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