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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Allowed or not? I think so Reply with quote

I was talking with Blackzero ages ago about why he disliked this place. He said one of the reasons was because he couldnt put his art up here because it was on lined paper. True lined paper is frowned upon. I told him why not just have someone edit out the lines for you? Or if they couldnt, trace the art onto a unlined sheet of paper. He said that wasent allowed.

I dont see why this isent allowed. And this is why:

If it is [b]YOUR ARTWORK [/b]that [b]YOU[/b] drew. You should have every right to trace it onto an unlined peice of paper! I had to do this myself on 2 occasions. I drew an awsome sketch of Bakura standing behind Sarah hugging her shoulders in school. Sadly it was on lined paper so I just traced it onto a unlined peice of paper. Another time I did this was when I drew out a reference sheet for Xaliirekur's dragoon hybrid form. My brother sat on the paper and smeared it badly to where I couldnt erase the smeared parts, and he wrinkled it badly. So I had to trace it onto another peice of paper. It may not be as good as the original but at least you can see it.

So is this allowed or not? Make some noise people.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can submit stuff drawn on lined paper to your scraps gallery. You aren't supposed to submit it to your regular gallery, but enforcement is spotty. It's a dumb rule.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can do that now? So THATS what the scraps is for lol awsome! Now i can put up my lined sketches of Bakura I drew in school! x3

Also the two pics I mentioned in my first post werent posted up on my gallery yet. And I re-drew the xal one because you an hardly see it through all the wrinkles xP
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, there's no rule against tracing your own artwork.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I said, I dont know why Blackzero believed that.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the introduction of a Scraps system that means we can relax some of the guidelines enforced in the past about what can or cannot be submitted here. The rule on lined paper dates back to 2004-ish when FAC was still rather young. FAC 1.0 actually did have a Scraps-like distinction but the definition of that term (which was basically "stuff that can be deleted at any time to save server space") ensured that it was rarely used.

As for tracing, there is no harm done in tracing or re-drawing your own sketches. If it's your work then it's your right to do that. If the work belongs to someone else then you need permission from them. And since you generally won't get permission for things with a commercially registered copyright on them (i.e: anime screenshots or manga scans) we have to disallow that form of tracing entirely.

Then there's the broader subject of plaigarism in general....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah it was his own work he said so. Which is why he has no reason to be angry with FAC now that it has a more powerful scraps system n_n

People get mad at this place for such silly reasons lol trust me yahoo is ten times worse, least FAC doesnt eat your friend names and posts when they feel like it or boot you out of boredom.

Huzzah! Now i can post up that hand I drew ages ago! >D -gets practice pictures booklet-
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should all sign a petition to enter lined paper. Their rejection email said that there is a link to get rid of the lines digitally. But there's no link. But this one picture i drew is soooo amazing. And I don't have any blank paper. I don't have the money to buy a fancy shmancy note book with no lines. This picture I drew is sooo amzing and I want it in the public gallery. Can anybody start a petition against this dumb rule?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it's a pencil drawing, you can load it in PhotoShop (or any other powerful graphics program) and filter out blue.

There is a detailed tutorial for that buried somewhere in the forums.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's my tutorial, I've somewhat disowned it since then.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appropriate skech pads can be bought for a dollar at any dollar store....seriously there is not reson to be using lined paper. If you don't give enough of a damn about your work to put it on line free paper you don't care enough to put it online as far as I an concerned.


Tracing one of your own works onto lineless paper is perfectly acceptable, why do you ask about that, there has never been anything stating one can not. Hell, when I color my paper scketches digitally that is all I am doing is tracing my own drawing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a tutorial for getting rid of lines.. somewhere.


There is a reason to draw on lined paper. It's called not paying attention in class, and sometimes, just sometimes, a doodle can turn out looking pretty damn good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="London"]I made a tutorial for getting rid of lines.. somewhere.[/quote]
http://www.fanart-central.net/pic-631817.html

[quote="London"]There is a reason to draw on lined paper. It's called not paying attention in class, and sometimes, just sometimes, a doodle can turn out looking pretty damn good.[/quote]

I went to class and still did not draw on lined paper, I always had a sketch book with me. Never the less, line removal is easy enough to process.

I understand that sometimes a doodle turns out to be more, I have a few of them I never submitted to my gallery.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Battou"]Hell, when I color my paper scketches digitally that is [b]all I am doing, is tracing my own drawing[/b].[/quote]
Bolding for emphasis.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh. It's not difficult once you've been shown, but unless I purposely looked up a tutorial on how to do it, I wouldn't know how (aside from manually erasing the lines). The problem is that it's so, so much easier just to upload a picture with lines than it is to download something stronger than MS paint and to bother following a tutorial.



The overwhelming majority of the people that draw in class do it on the edge of their notes. How do you even regularly draw in a sketchbook in middle or high school without someone noticing?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="London"]The overwhelming majority of the people that draw in class do it on the edge of their notes. How do you even regularly draw in a sketchbook in middle or high school without someone noticing?[/quote]

True true. When I was in high school they handed out small notebooks for us to use, which were basically your syllabus for the school as a whole (map, general school rules, etc.) . They also included a calendar and monthly planner. Guess what I drew and scribbled all over throughout the year Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for me, I used to bring my old shonen jump mangas with me to school, so I had something to read when we had free time at the end of the period. And when I finished reading the manga I would practice drawing side poses and hands and eyes etc. I would also go soo far as to shade them in and ink out the lines. I drew theif Bakura alot back then o3o
And when I wasent drawing manga scenes I would draw designs for my ocs, one of em was angel of death bakura.

Damn where are those pics? -searches through giant art folder of pictures from HS-
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

may be just put in description credit to the person who helped?
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