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HerculesRockefeller
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I JUST REALIZED THIS IS PHILOSOPHY

SHIT

WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING SOMETHING DEEP

SOMETIMES I THINK ABOUT DYING

BUT THEN I THINK ABOUT THE UNIVERSE

AND HOW IT GOES ON FOR FOREVER

AND THEN I THINK ABOUT THE SHEER SIZE, AND HOW NOTHING IS INFINATE

SO IT HAS TO END AT SOME POINT

BUT IF IT DOES

WHAT'S AT THE END

ALTERNATE UNIVERSE

MORE BIG BANGS

UNLIMITED SPACE

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE

AND BY THE LOGIC THAT IT IS ENDLESS, THEN THEORETICALLY, PRETTY MUCH THAT WHOLE BOOK OF LOGIC GOES OUT THE WINDOW

THEN I REALIZE IT'S BEEN 45 MINUTES

AND I DO SOMETHING ELSE

HOW FUCKING DEEP IS THAT?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HerculesRockefeller wrote:
SweetxinsanityxSarah wrote:
do you mean this one?



...what?

No. What are you even doing.

FAYORE OR BRIAN OR BLAD WILL KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

WE ALL USED TO USE IT ALL THE TIME

AND I COPIED AND PASTED IT BACK AND $&#* FORTH FROM FAYORE'S PHOTOBUCKET

<blink>@^*%</blink> WAS GRAND


OH GOD I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I CAN'T FIND IT WHAT THE FUCK

AND THAT STRATA SMILEY IS AWFUL FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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HerculesRockefeller
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUCK MAN NOW I'M FREAKING MYSELF OUT A BIT


I NEED TO GO DO SCIENCE TO RESTORE ORDER AND BALANCE
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler melt down quick someone get a camara O_o

Also who said the christians get all the religious wars? xD
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Quote:
remarks of unruly wenches and harlots.


I smiled.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think herc needs a good mindfuck, someone go get shinji
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm... I see, I see...
Unable to come up with a witty retort to my questioning statements so you will simply ignore my posts. How childlike. I suppose you throw tantrums when things don't go your way, too. Alrighty then.
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HerculesRockefeller
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a camera.

Or more accurately a camera phone.

Don't worry, I'm a professional.
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HerculesRockefeller
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SolarisAugmentium wrote:
I think herc needs a good $&#*, someone go get shinji


Already had a good fuck today. Shit was awesome, man.

Quote:
How childlike. I suppose you throw tantrums when things don't go your way, too. Alrighty then.


More childlike then trying to dredge up a little shitslinging contest over the internet?

Chill, nigga. It's all good. We're talking science, not fighting in the schoolyard.

ALSO, THATS THE SMILEY

I KNEW ONE OF YOU HAD IT
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, you really want me to answer it?

Solaris is an atheist because he meets the criteria. If he doesn't want to be an atheist, he would have to join a religious institution or become more spiritual.

Edward Erlic have dialogues which can make people suggest that he is an atheist character, but many things such as belief in soul and practice of alchemy suggests that he believes in a supreme creator and arbitrary laws of the universe, which atheists reject. His beliefs remind me of shamanists who don't necessarily believe in God, but believed in souls and the afterlife interaction with the real world. This is frequently a characteristic in anime as Japan itself is nonreligious, but a spiritual country.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no I'm finished now. But yeah, I could ttly sling my goddamn shit the farthest, d00d.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdrianChaos wrote:
No, no I'm finished now. But yeah, I could definitely sling my goddamn <blink>@^*%</blink> the farthest.


...I HAVE NO WORDS

ITS LIKE IM REALLY IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AGAIN

BUT THIS TIME, I CAN JUST LEAVE

AND THERES WHISKEY

AND VIDEO GAMES

AND MUSIC

JESUS WHY WASNT MIDDLE SHCOOL THIS AWESOME WHEN I WAS A LAD
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brianhjh wrote:
oh, you really want me to answer it?

Solaris is an atheist because he meets the criteria. If he doesn't want to be an atheist, he would have to join a religious institution or become more spiritual.

Edward Erlic have dialogues which can make people suggest that he is an atheist character, but many things such as belief in soul and practice of alchemy suggests that he believes in a supreme creator and arbitrary laws of the universe, which atheists reject. His beliefs remind me of shamanists who don't necessarily believe in God, but believed in souls and the afterlife interaction with the real world. This is frequently a characteristic in anime as Japan itself is nonreligious, but a spiritual country.


'Kay well I didn't even read that at all 'cuz I really don't care and it really doesn't affect me at all, but I'm just satisfied that you answered, have a good one.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The definition of an atheist is loose, but this is what they are."

SO Not contradictory.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The definition of atheist is those who reject supreme creator or gods.

These people can be people who reject God because it is incoherent with the scientific facts, which I think are the most common out of the group.

Or people who reject God purely from an empirical stand point (ie. why did my cats die?)

Or they can be people who have an underlying philosophy that doesn't need a supreme creator for them to make sense of the universe. Most confucian philosophies do not need "the beginning" to tell people how the life should go on. As a result, most former Confucian countries, China, Korea, are atheist.

Or People just don't care, and are too busy to consider where they came from and the consequences they face after they die. They just don't care.

It's not contradictory at all, like I said, many specific (clear distinctions in who is, and who is not) definitions are loose (groups that meet the criteria are diverse) because there are many, many factors that meet one criteria, which is the reject of a supreme creator. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. Glenn Beck raped and killed a girl in 1990. etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol Adrian knew you would tl;dr....but twice in a row? lmfao.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys seem to think that writing a couple of paragraphs is a lot of work. It's not, I type essays for breakfast.

Beside, there are other people in the site that read this thread, regardless of whether you pretend to read it or not.

I know you do, you guys are probably looking for insults or something.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah not me. I'm done. You silly doofus poo poo head. Yeah take that insult!!!!11
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, Philosophy section was intended for serious discussion, nothing less. Which in case anyone forgets, is officially posted as part of the forum's description; topic locked because several members are derailing it with the sort of chatter that's not welcome outside of OT (if welcome anywhere at all).
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