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TeeJay87
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Mickey discovers the forums, he won't be impressed how people view him. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:
If Mickey discovers the forums, he won't be impressed how people view him. Wink


Yeah, that's for sure.

Btw, in another thread where I mentionned that fanartist nicknamed EC-707 http://forums.fanart-central.net/viewtopic.php?p=995082#995082 Looks like the guy who denounced him had left Devianart. I don't know if he had left of his own or if he was banned. Here a archived copy of his journal entries about EC-707.
http://archive.is/o46jZ
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit more about the underpants, I saw this fanart on DA.
https://www.deviantart.com/dopler00/art/Briefs-boy-516506154
who's mirrored on Archive.is and Wayback Machine
http://archive.is/RecEz
https://web.archive.org/web/20180709143553/https://www.deviantart.com/dopler00/art/Briefs-boy-516506154

Along with this Steven Universe fanart.
https://www.deviantart.com/farinaartist/art/Worried-For-a-Friend-737043370
https://web.archive.org/web/20180709144137/https://www.deviantart.com/farinaartist/art/Worried-For-a-Friend-737043370
http://archive.fo/2xevt

I don't know how old the guy in the 1st fanart could have. Maybe 14-18 years old but it's not tagged as mature content like the fanart of Jose-Ramiro then I mentionned eartlier.
https://jose-ramiro.deviantart.com/art/Bday-ShiftyTheDingoMan-747976678
http://archive.is/NtlKW
Ok, the guys in Jose-Ramiro's fanart are underaged but the fanart made by dopler00 seems to be underaged or if he's 20-21 years old, he look more younger then we thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sketch by dopler00 was certainly drawn by anime/manga fan - they do have pleasure in watching topless kids.


As for Steven Universe fanart - I'd like to see SJWs reactions, since they consider this cartoon as sacred. Wink


I've seen Jose-Ramiro for the first time yet when I had active dA account (in 2012 or 2011) - never had any feud with him. Sure, can't say I like his underaged drawings (plus couple more I can list), but nonetheless Jose isn't a real threat to anyone. He just tends to draw stuff for various people.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More developments about Mickeyelric11 fanart. His fanart of Mabel got deleted again.
https://www.deviantart.com/mickeyelric11/status/14166620
https://web.archive.org/web/20180710011234/https://www.deviantart.com/mickeyelric11/status/14166620

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Well, the Mabel Work is down again. Now it's pornography to put simple shapes over characters, I guess.


Looks like the Kiwifarms user Piga Drigfm aka if he is POLH1995, enjoy that. http://archive.is/LX8X5
http://archive.is/LX8X5#selection-3067.1-3067.59

I wonder if it was Roman Polanski who did this fanart of Mabel instead of mickeyelric11, would he get a free pass? Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickeyelric11 posted a good and long comment.
https://comments.deviantart.com/62/14166620/4616087626
Mirrored also at
https://web.archive.org/web/20180710112816/https://comments.deviantart.com/62/14166620/4616087626

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Then they are idiots, Cesar XD

Don't worry, my dear friend. Look, no matter what you do on Internet: you will always earn haters. Maybe for good reason, but most probably for stupid things.

I'm totally aware of the Fetish Status of this. I won't deny this was done in an Ecchi Conext, but, like many users said: this invoked way more cuteness and inoccence than sexual arousal.

I know that, Cesar, but, that's the sad part: I can't control how people will feel about my work. For example, my first serious problem with a troll was because she got furious for me calling Connie from "Steven Universe" ugly; which didn't happen in first place.

That's my plan, Cesar: I don't want to give my haters, trolls and cyberbullies what they want. That was the main mistake of Paige Paz back when she got into that issue: taking them seriously.
Also, me being called a "pervert", "children sexualizer", or even openly "pedophile", has happened to me way before that fanart of Mabel, all because of the main theme of Toy Girls: drawing young girls. So, should I shut down this series and focus in something "fitter" for me like superheroes or naked women? No! Because, for every stupid accusation I got, I received 1,000, or even 2,000, full with love and support. It would be nonsensical to destroy all what I have done only to pander to this immature and toxic minority.

Look, I already got haters: maybe few of the trolls I have faced still hold a grudge to me, but I also have some on Kiwi Farms, a Hate Forum.
You can check the gargabe told about me in its thread "DeviantART Horrors". They have spitted hateful comments about what I do, and they of course have complained about my Panty Shot works. However, here's the thing: everytime I enter into that thread, I felt unclean. Not for what they say about me; I'm one of the less popular subjects there. Seeing how this people poisons themselves in so much hatred for fanart they don't like here in dA is just disgusting. Yes, many of the criticized pieces and users are awkward, but seeing that sewer with so much anger and thirst of revenge makes me sick.

Cesar, don't feel scared for me: these guys are dumbasses. How do I know?
One of them stupidly tried to scare me by saying that he "reported me to the FBI"...THE FBI...for a drawing! You may find Panty Shots works unappealing, but I'm pretty sure you find pretty stupid to send someone to jail for a drawing. Man, I laughed my ass off after that. BTW, that was like three months ago...and I'm still here. What happened? XD Oh, and that same user, very immaturley, said he would love to see me hanged from a tree like a lynch mob victim. So, two options: here we are dealing with a psycopath (which he isn't), or with a kid who most probably gets his head sunked in a toilet three times a week.

Look, Cesar, I thank you for worrying for me, and for the advices you give me: you are an amazing friend. But, like I told you long time ago: trolls mustn't be fed. We must never take them seriously, it's a duty to either keep them away or mock them mercilessly, and we must never obey them. This decision of making more Panty Shot fanarts it's a revolutionary act from me: a way to tell them all I care a shit about what they want or think.
Also, about going after me, believe me: if they would really think I'm a Illegal Pornography dealer, they would run away from me, burn their computers, and hide under their beds praying for me never finding them. There are real Criminals in the Sexual Explotation of Children, but they aren't in deviantART (but in the Deep Web), and they are dangerous people they would never want to meet.

Well, that's all what I have to say. Take good care of you, Cesar! A big hug for you since Mexico!



Some others comments had appeared on Kiwifarms as well.
http://archive.is/yl4mw#selection-3889.1-3889.47

Meanwhile we should be more worried for other things.
https://moonbattery.com/star-trek-could-be-headed-for-memory-hole
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with Mickey - trolls and other leftists don't deserve being taken seriously. Pretty much like the Penelope hater from Garfield Wiki we had to block recently for his abuses http://garfield.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:32076 - turned out that LS031 is also an SJW, from the Seattle area. The same Seattle, where you get free coffee at Starbucks for calling the waiters "racist mysogynic homophobes" or similar nonsense. Wink


Since the SJWs harass William Shatner, it only proves their moral degeneration - they prey upon old people for no real reasons.




Forgot to write - since those SJWs are triggered by drawings of child characters in beach outfits, I can only imagine their reactions to some of my works from this year:
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pictures/user/TeeJay87/856630/Team-Pussycat-Family-Vacation-take-2
-http://www.fanart-central.net/pictures/user/TeeJay87/855860/Pussycats-at-Cali-Break-Hotel
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:
Have to agree with Mickey - trolls and other leftists don't deserve being taken seriously. Pretty much like the Penelope hater from Garfield Wiki we had to block recently for his abuses http://garfield.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:32076 - turned out that LS031 is also an SJW, from the Seattle area. The same Seattle, where you get free coffee at Starbucks for calling the waiters "racist mysogynic homophobes" or similar nonsense. Wink

Since the SJWs harass William Shatner, it only proves their moral degeneration - they prey upon old people for no real reasons.


More weirder is they have some threads on Kiwifarms denouncing SJWs and others who have the Trump derangement syndrome along with a thread about Gamergate.
http://archive.is/AwoIZ
http://archive.fo/8zwdi
http://archive.fo/44i7s

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Forgot to write - since those SJWs are triggered by drawings of child characters in beach outfits, I can only imagine their reactions to some of my works from this year:
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pictures/user/TeeJay87/856630/Team-Pussycat-Family-Vacation-take-2
- http://www.fanart-central.net/pictures/user/TeeJay87/855860/Pussycats-at-Cali-Break-Hotel


The one with Hillary drunk on the floor is priceless and equal the cartoons done by Ben Garrison. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to do a little recap by beginning with an exterpt from an archived copy of Mickeyelric11's journal entry.
http://archive.is/ZwWOi

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You see, a little after receiving those messages from dA, in my notifications, I found this comment in my Toy Girls Gallery:
Apparently, one of my watchers, from which I never suspected anything fishy before, wrote me a pretty stupid message “thanking me” for having deleted the Toy Girl of Mabel Pines with the Panty Shot, because he considered “unnecessary”. He said how he “pledged” for the removal of my work for being “offensive”. And to top it all, he even ask for God’s forgiveness to anyone who favorited the image. No, I’m not making anything up: he was that stupid.

I was actually very happy for this message. Instead of being totally clueless about the culprit, now I had a little hint. Alright, I didn’t have solid proof of him being the one who reported the work; that’s why I censored his name.

However:
a) How did he know my work was removed?
Yes, I’m pretty sure many of us give a view to our Favorite Folder once in a while. But still, why was he so aware of the presence of my fanart if he found it offensive? If there’s something more stalking than an obsessive fan, is a hater.

b) What did he mean with the “Pleaded” part?
I’m Mexican, so I looked for the meaning of this word, and what I could found was that it was when you either declare yourself innocent or guilty in a court, or when you ask for something.

c) Very good timing he had when he sent me that message, just a day or two after my work was removed.

d) When I replied him accusing him of being the one who made the report, he didn’t even try to deny it. He just said “OK”, and so my words still remained.


The stash in question. https://archive.is/AEdaJ and here the archived comments from POLH1995 archived on Archive.is and Wayback Machine.
https://archive.fo/j56Ng
https://web.archive.org/web/20180403175925/https://comments.deviantart.com/20/52208237/4567958182

And looks like if (and it's a big "if") POLH1995 is ones of the Kiwifarms users Piga Dgrifm or PsychoNerd054, wasn't 100% white as snow. By checking his list of favourites at his profile page. He got some foot fetish. I don't know if it's at the same level than ex-Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider. Too bad then the Wayback Machine hadn't saved his gallery, as I mentionned previously, he could had got some hidden skeletons in his closet.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161104222638/http://polh1995.deviantart.com:80/
https://web.archive.org/web/20151030175136/http://polh1995.deviantart.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like some Kiwufarms user wants to see a separate thread for Mickeyelric11
-kiwifarms.net/threads/deviantart-horrors.2366/page-603#post-3555375
http://archive.fo/T8zeG#selection-1465.0-1465.71

I wonder if there's a way to find if POLH1995 and Piga Drigfm or PsychoNerd054 is the same person even if POLH1995 isn't on Deviantart anymore and all it remains is archived copies of his profile page on the Wayback Machine? I apologize in advance if he's not the case.

There's also a Google cache on Archive.is but the quality of the image capture wasn't that good. http://archive.fo/s25sx

Edit: I forgot to mention then it might be much harder to prove if he's the same guy if he use a virtual private network (VPN).

Edit #2: POLH1995 had left some comments then we could classify as clues when we see one request he asked. https://web.archive.org/web/20180713014603/https://www.deviantart.com/dafootclan/art/Amy-Gillis-sock-soles-617860461
along with some other ones he commented.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180713015019/https://www.deviantart.com/skullmandan/art/Fionna-409992539
https://web.archive.org/web/20151024152225/http://skullmandan.deviantart.com/art/Pearl-535434624
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't give those Kiwifarms too much faith, even despite they do unveil leftist stupidity.

You saw that individual, who got triggered by my works mocking radical Islam, social justice, Great-Rus imperialism and similar negative values, after all I learnt about him from your note.
A true right-winger would've read the descriptions below my works and understood, that I drew those for particular purpouses, instead of expressing his petty opinions in public. The only good thing is that he apparently got lesser feedback than he was striving for.


Don't want to generalize, but if semi-illiterates unable to read with comprehension remain a majority on a forum, that forum certainly has a suspect credibility as an information source. Especially since this website already has bad reputation in the cyberspace - just look at their definition https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kiwi%20Farms
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:


Don't want to generalize, but if semi-illiterates unable to read with comprehension remain a majority on a forum, that forum certainly has a suspect credibility as an information source. Especially since this website already has bad reputation in the cyberspace - just look at their definition https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kiwi%20Farms


I mentionned the entry to Urban Dictionary in a recent journal then I just posted on DA.
https://www.deviantart.com/stephdumas/journal/Conspiracy-theories-matinee-2-754476201
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just reading your journal - I've also been tracking Donald Trump's visit to the UK with all that awful "welcome" they gave him in London. Photos are on our online portal https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wielka-brytania-balon-z-podobizna-trumpa-wisi-nad-parlamentem/tbmq53l

That parade balloon cost 30 000 GBP (36 750 USD, don't know Canadian Dollars exchange rate but I assume it'll be also enough for a car) and I'm pretty sure Jeremy Corbyn's henchmen are responsible for this mess:

- https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/GfBktkqTURBXy9jOTRhMDkxMDVmY2VhNzQxNzY1ODI1ZDZkYTY5Nzc0Yy5qcGVnkpUCzQPAAMLDlQIAzQPAwsM I see Muslim flags around;

- https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/y-7ktkqTURBXy84Yzk1OGM4ODgzOTcwMTllYzg4NTQwODExNjBlM2U1OC5qcGVnkpUCzQPAAMLDlQIAzQPAwsM who would compare Christianity to Nazism and capitalism ? Communists, anarchists, socialists and similar scum.


As for Kiwi Farms, the Urban Dictionary definition matches them well. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeJay87 wrote:


- https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/y-7ktkqTURBXy84Yzk1OGM4ODgzOTcwMTllYzg4NTQwODExNjBlM2U1OC5qcGVnkpUCzQPAAMLDlQIAzQPAwsM who would compare Christianity to Nazism and capitalism ? Communists, anarchists, socialists and similar scum.


As for Kiwi Farms, the Urban Dictionary definition matches them well. Wink


And the irony is during the 1979 Iranian Revolution, communists supported Khomenei...until they was thrown under the bus.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the inconvenience, but I post the fanarts of Mickeyelric11 and XJKenny on the FAC forum if some users from Kiwifarms check Fanart-central.



I wonder if there's a way to do a internet meme about this althought I did with this kid.
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And the classic condescendant Willy Wonka.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickey and XJKenny have proved again, that their kin http://toxic-fandoms-and-hatedoms.wikia.com/wiki/Weeaboo_Fandom are just hypocrites. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's another fanartist who faced the politically incorrect brigade.
https://www.deviantart.com/akira-devilman666/journal/I-HATE-THE-POLITICALLY-CORRECT-AND-THE-CENSURE-755581685
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akira claims to have depicted a porn scene http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27250951/ - can't view, since I don't have an account there, but I can imagine how does it look.


Not a fan of such pornography myself, yet we have another proof of lefitst hypocrisy - that their "freedom" isn't unlimited.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earlier this month, I mentionned then the guy who talked of EC-707 had left DA
http://forums.fanart-central.net/viewtopic.php?p=995133#995133 had returned (temporary?) and as a request he asked I edited my journals on DA mentionning his archived entries which I did.

I saved the Google results of image search of his fanarts who was still located on the Google cache. http://archive.is/icSwL
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it ok fi I add more on the table

The guy who once contacted me about EC-707 fanarts then I mentionned in another thread. He don't want to tell the message to someone else but I think it's a wrong strategy and I think he should do another approach.


Quote:
Quote:
Franklansburg85 said the following:

I have to leave the site forever as I want to focus more on real life instead.

I also don't want to have my name be shown on ED as I don't want be brought to attention.

Also, EC-707 is now a dead horse since he was banned from DA, he should be categorized as Dying Alone. I hope in the future, EC-707 will give up his current behavior.

You are have heard of idiom, "beat a dead horse"? It is an idiom that means to continue a particular endeavour is a waste of time as the outcome (aftermath) is already decided.

P.S. Please don't tell anyone about my name and about this message.



He asked me if I had Twitter, Facebook and any other social media but I said no.

Quote:
I'm going to deal with EC707 myself this time in case something noteworthy happens.


Earlier, in March 8 (I keep some PM who not that older) he dropped me that note along with my replies. His comments are in bold.

Quote:
Quote:
Franklansburg85 said the following:
I'm having udon soup noodles to lose my memory of my bad past.


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stephdumas said the following:

I wish then I know how to help you on this case but I'm not a medical specialist. I would also suggest some self-defense technics but with the events who happened in Florida recently. It's politically incorrect to ask under the eyes of some activists.

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Quote:
Franklansburg85 said the following:

Also, I had nightmares about EC-707 kidnapping me from my bedroom after he got banned from this site.


He also asked me to edit my journal entries where I did mentionned his former journal entries.
http://archive.fo/WNPA1
http://archive.fo/vvjES

I quote one of his journal entries.

Quote:
...You are 27 years old and you should know this by now. This art of fetishes and children doing sexual stuff must stop. Not only is it not allowed on the site but it hurts the reputation of the characters from the show too. I'm really serious about this. I want to know why you did these stuff? You know that not only making these art are disgusting but also dangerous too. They have devastating physical, social, and psychological effects on any person (especially a child). If you want to do bikini art, DO THEM THE RIGHT WAY.


I think the wrong approach he asked was to ask why instead of how and/or when?
Also, I wonder if he thinks then EC-707 is possibly part of a syndicate, drug cartel or even a terrorist group? There's a old saying "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" so instead of hiding from EC-707. I should had think of a bait or a lure to attract EC-707 in a mouse trap/bear trap/etc... or think of the end of the movie "Duel" where David Mann (performed by the late Dennis Weaver) decided to face the problem (the truck driver who pursued him and harrass him during a big part of the movie) and to deal it, but I guess that only work on movies.

You can see some not safe for work arts of EC-707 on his former Thumblr account, viewer discretion is advised. https://archive.fo/c7kYM

However, there's a fanartist who go much much far further than EC-707, it was referred as Palcomix, here a link to an archived entry of Encyclopedia Dramatica. Beware, as I mentionned about EC-707's former Thumblr account, viewer discretion is advised. http://archive.fo/rzBSw

Finally, while we go against fanartists, there's some bigger fishes who menaged to escape justice like Jimmy Savile https://archive.fo/bJFYi Nickelodeon and Dan Schneider parted ways (or was fired from Nick, I started a thread about Dan Schneider at http://forums.fanart-central.net/viewtopic.php?t=43287 ) and the rumors about him might not be rumors afterall.

I guess I might repost these memes about Dan Schneider.
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Before some folks conclude then it's in defense for EC-707, let's me said if we go against little fishes like EC-707. We shouldn't let escape the big ones like Jimmy Savile and we won't let escape the bigger fish named Dan Schneider. Because if we let him go or if Dan Schneider menage to escape, the old George Orwell quote from Animal Farm "some animals are more equal than the others" will still be relevant.
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