Worst Movies Ever!

Jailcrow_of_Mandos · Still very bored Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 313

Well, the whole thing about PotC is that yes, there is a curse, but in order for that to be remotely shocking, the setting needs to be normal. For example, if someone was cursed in a fantasy movie, where they became bones in the moon light, no one would be surprised. If you see someone like that walking down the street, then it would obviously be an eye opener. The action was good, but we're talking about the quality of the movie itself- or so I thought :huh: I wouldn't be so upset about it if the movie wasn't so damn popular. It doesn't deserve that fame. Most people I've heard it from went to go see it for Orlando Bloom. I'm a Lord of the Rings freak, and I hate his acting.

This is all I have to say about the Matrix:

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix2

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3

I think it's funny that whenever I don't like movies such as the Matrix or The Ring, the typical excuse of fans is that I am too young to understand them. I believe the above links will support my opinions in both cases, really.

ragingflea002 · Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject:

It has nothing to do with age. If you don't get it, you don't get it.

Read the books by Koji Suzuki. The Ring wasn't meant to necessarily be a horror. It was meant to be a drama.

PotC was based in the perfect setting. The non fictional town of Tortuga was a true pirate hangout, as was the rest of the movie's setting, other than the island where the gold is. Right time, accurate dress and weaponry, unlike the movies in the 50s.
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n8comics · Has No Life Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 582

Meh, I made a synopsis of all three Matrix movies including the Animatrix (or atleast the Last Flight of the Osiris) in chronological order. If I have the time to type it up I will. It's attention to detail that'll make you understand it. I suppose you still don't understand it, not many people do.

amerowolf · Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject:

spirit's within....ya know that crappy final fantasy movie. i think the reason why eveyone hated that was because it didn't really have a storyline like all the games

ragingflea002 · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:14 am Post subject:

That Final Fantasy movie was completely CGI'd. It was supposed to prove something, that movies can be made completely in CG and people would believe they were real people on the screen. Plus, from what I saw, that movie is NOTHING like the games, so I'm betting it wasn't really related to the games at all, other than the title.

The synopsis of the Matrix movies can be found in the "Enter The Matrix" video game strategy guide.

Basically, the Matrix was based off philsophical belief that we aren't really here, that life is an illusion. That belief was based off the fact that some people believe in fate, and others don't. If fate exists, who's controling our every aspect of life? God? Machines? How about both? The Matrix is supposed to be an illusion that is too complex for a simple mind to comprehend(in the movies). The few who have discovered it's truth have to deal with the fact that we're batteries programmed into a giant VR program used to fuel the machines. There is a reason. Humans gave birth, so to speak, to AI. Artificial Intelligence. The machines took over, no doubt using Asimov's 3 rules as their reason to put people into slavery, and humans were no longer produced naturally, but by machine.

The 3 rules:

1. A robot may not cause harm to a human being
2. A robot will do whatever a human being orders, unless the order contradicts the first law.
3. A robot may defend itself, unless, in doing so, it contradicts the 1st and 2nd laws.

Those laws are legit, and Asimov was a genius. Those laws are genuinely used.

Humans created something that found the loophole. In order to protect humans, a robot would see the edcoded logic in keeping them all in slavery, and the few humans who would rebel, would be seen as anomalies, and destroyed in order to keep order.

The plots for the movies are philosophically correct. The acting could've been better, though..

Another bad movie.

The Blair Witch Project 2: Book of Shadows

It could have been so much better and it could have been so much more scarier.

There are people who think the Blair Witch Project is reality. I laugh each time they tell me that someday, they'll find the witch.
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n8comics · Has No Life Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 582

Weren't those three laws the laws of robots in "I, Robot?" And wasn't Asimov the one who originally wrote the short stories that "I, Robot?" revolved around? ^_^
Well anyway, flea is totally right. It's more of a philosophy movie than anything else, that's why no one really understands it. You can learn the entire backdrop of the Matrix by watching the Animatrix. Go rent it. Never say it doesn't have a stable plot. (By the way, The Second Renaissance parts one and two will give a very good detail on the background and open up the plot a little more to the Matrix.)

Here's a crappy movie for you: Kung Pow. The movie was so horribly bad that I laughed through out the entire movie! The jokes are stupid, and... well mostly just stupid. Since a comedy doesn't really have to have good acting or a plot, it screwed itself over not having good comedy >_< Go watch it, it's so horrible you'll laugh your ass off!

Here's a better understanding of the three laws of robotics as presented by Asimov:
1) A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2) A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3) A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
(Flea did a good job, but this is just a more detailed and slightly expanded version of his description.)

ragingflea002 · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:22 am Post subject:

Asimov was a genius, and those laws are solid. That's assuming that people tried to give a robot a "mind", so to speak to follow them. "I, Robot", though loosely based off those books, didn't go crazy with the 'bots and actually had an intelligent plot and storyline, and the acting was pretty damn good, too. I like that movie about as much as I respect Asimov. That's a lot.

The Hulk has good actors, good settings, but terrible animation and plot. The concept was like the comic book series, but there were a lot of things in there that just.......didn't belong. I mean, the Hulk leaping across the desert? Fearsome being the Hulk be........

Catwoman......Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Halle Barry just......sucked. The costume was cool, except that the cowl was too big for her head.

Metallica: Some Kind Of Monster focused on rocker politics and not enough rockin'. Plus, the new stuff was bad. "Some Kind of Monster" has NO SOLO. What the Hell? Hammett? What's wrong with Kirk?
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LadyoftheDeadlyDance · Forum Stalker Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1144

You know what I find strange is that, to me, I Robot fits perfectly with the beginning of the Matrix, I mean I could see The Second Renaissance being born from I Robot. That was cool.

Reign of Fire: Personally, I thought it was stupid. Much too cliche. Posed the dragons as the bad guys, like always. I saw a half-hour of it and left the room.

n8comics · Has No Life Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 582

[quote]You know what I find strange is that, to me, I Robot fits perfectly with the beginning of the Matrix, I mean I could see The Second Renaissance being born from I Robot. That was cool. [/quote]

That's because they both revolve around the same general concept ^_^ "Humans create robots and machines to do all of their work for them, like mechanical slaves so to speak. The humans like this lifestyle so much, they disregard any possible negatives that could come from the robots. They assume that the robots are 'safe' and have no minds of their own; their purpose is to serve. Then comes along a lone robot who screws it up for the rest of us by killing someone."
The difference between the "Matrix" and "I, Robot" is that in the Matrix, the hatred against the machines is out of prejudice and in I, Robot it's about survival. In the Matrix, people raise prejudice and violence against the machines, causing the robots to hide away and create their own city. The robots (still on the Matrix) try to have good relations with the humans, but the humans are still prejudiced against them so it doesn't work out all to well. To protect their survival the machines wage war on the humans, then some s**t happens, then all of the humans are used as batteries to power the machines. This is as opposed to I, Robot where the AI system that controls all of the robots becomes corrupt and finds a "loop hole" in the three laws of robotics. The AI does some s**t and tries to enslave the human race for "their own protection."
The three laws of robotics never really applied to the Matrix, it was more like our cockyness led us to believe that there was no flaw in robots. One thing that both I, Robot and the Matrix share very noticibly is that both the machines and robots "evolved" over time. This evolution gave the robots the will to act and do what they want, when they want. And this is pretty much all I've got, so tada.

Edit: Oooh! I forgot, for the Matrix, I'm reffering to the Second Reniassance part one and two.

ragingflea002 · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject:

LDD, dragons have been posted as evil and/or powerful for a reason, and that reason is that people made them to be. Dragons are fictional, except for Komodo Dragons, which, even though they aren't dragons, cause enough harm to people if encountered. They can swallow a child whole, and it won't be the child's fault because children have no sense of logic to leave things be.

Note to Nate: The robots are using what they have been programmed to think, so good relations on their part may be quite evil to humans.

The Matrix(first)was awesome. It had the effects, the plot, the acting wasn't as wooden as the last 2 movies. The last 2 movies had bad acting, particulary because it was monotonous voice and movements. Even in the first movie, there was more of "Holy s**t, would you look at THAT!" rather than "Holy s**t, would you look at that."

Another bad movie I have seen Adam Sandler's "Mr. Deeds". I like Adam Sandler, and I like his other movies a lot, but that one was not funny.

Most modern day horror films suck ass, and the next person who says "But Thir13en Ghosts RULED!!!" is getting a lecture in another thread.

One of 2 mistakes my Algebra 1 teacher made was making us sit through "Freaky Friday" with Lindsay Lohan......... I could freakin hear the dialogue while I was looking up tabs on the net, and she can't play guitar worth s**t. Power chords, all of 'em.

Every Hillary Duff movie sucks because she insisits on putting a goddamn song of hers on the soundtrack, and, no, I haven't seen any of her movies, but the goddamn movie theater plays her music.

"It doesn't matter what they say
"It doesn't matter anyway
He-e-ey"

Bullshit, you sacrificed your right to say that when you became famous, you little pompous bitch.
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LadyoftheDeadlyDance · Forum Stalker Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1144

[quote]LDD, dragons have been posted as evil and/or powerful for a reason, and that reason is that people made them to be. Dragons are fictional, except for Komodo Dragons, which, even though they aren't dragons, cause enough harm to people if encountered. They can swallow a child whole, and it won't be the child's fault because children have no sense of logic to leave things be.[/quote]

True, but it's nice to see a dragon, which are usually protrayed as an evil vicious killer in myths made up by illiterate and fearful monks as a way to control the population and brainwash them into cowardly little servents, as the "hero" in a story. Besides, not all dragons of legend are evil, look at Oriental myth. You find "good" dragons there.

...You didn't think I thought dragons were real, did you? :blink:

[quote]Bullshit, you sacrificed your right to say that when you became famous, you little pompous bitch. [/quote]

Lmao! Flea, you are da MAN! Laughing

Borrowed_Wish · Member Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 57

[b]Jeepers Creepers[/b]: Ew x 1000. Not that it was overly gory, just overly stupid. I mean, come [i]on[/i]! You see someone stuffing a dead body into a pipe and you follow him?!? What kind of idiots are these people??

ragingflea002 · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject:

[quote="LadyoftheDeadlyDance (LDD)"] ...You didn't think I thought dragons were real, did you? :blink:

[quote]Bullshit, you sacrificed your right to say that when you became famous, you little pompous bitch. [/quote]

Lmao! Flea, you are da MAN! Laughing

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Well, they are, so to speak, but this time, I did, sorta. Look at it this way, whatever sells will be sold. Dragons as fearsome, evil creatures sell, so it is that way. Sad, in a way. This means more Hilary Duff movies and Lindsay Lohan movies. Lindsay is getting pretty damn hot, but when they're like that, the more makeup they use, and the sluttier they are. Makes the hotness die away.....

I am the man, aren't I? Cool

I agree with Jeepers Creepers. Most modern horror movies suck ass.

The final Jurassic Park movie was bad. It wasn't based off the novels and it just sucked ass. Sam Neil can do better.

Any movie by Reese Witherspoon is bad to me.
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layzcarter · I used to work here Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3988

[quote]Jeepers Creepers: Ew x 1000. Not that it was overly gory, just overly stupid. I mean, come on! You see someone stuffing a dead body into a pipe and you follow him?!? What kind of idiots are these people?? [/quote]

Once again I disagree that this should be on the worst movies list. There are way more sh*tty horror movies that belong on this list. Why pick on Jeepers ? Smile

I did like the beginning of this movie though. The rusty ass old car making the scary sounds and such. That was good. And the part where they are driving past the guy shoving the bodies into the pipe.. that sh*t was scary... too bad it got so sh*tty after that though. I just wasn't expecting the guy to have wings and such.. but when I look back it wasn't bad to the point where I would put it on a list like this. The second one.... well that comes a little closer to making an appearance on this list.. but doesn't make the cut.

Honestly after seeing jeepers creepers I was scared. Not right after... but I had watched the movie at midnight.. then had to work at 5am the next day. It was the middle of winter so it was dark as hell at 4am and I had to walk to work down a long, dark, and empty road. Only one car usually passed me each morning and it was a 30-40 minute walk. Had to walk past a graveyard and a big old field... and it was pitch black.. no street lights Sad

But yeah.. anyway.. I ended up walking outside... then running back in and calling up my manager begging for a ride... and the bitch got mad at me for it......
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blood_and_death · Newb Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 18

i'm not sure if it was all ready posted but i think scary movie 1 2 and 3 were some of the worst movies ever made they aren't even funny to me

ragingflea002 · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:15 am Post subject:

Scary Movies 1 & 2 are ok, but 3 sucked. The reason? The Waynan's Brothers didn't direct and star in it.

Jeepers Creepers 2 was bad. First one was ok in the beginning, but it did get sh*tty in the end.

Godzilla 2000.......Jesus Christ......
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blood_and_death · Newb Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 18

i didnt like godzilla either

ya the first 2 scary movies were better than the third but i still dont like them

ragingflea002 · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:55 am Post subject:

The Godzilla in '98 where they CGI'd him was actually good. Good soundtrack(except for the Puff Daddy song which ripped off Led Zepplin's "Kashmir"), acting, and action. Plus, it wasn't a dude in a suit trying to kill a flying moth. It had a damn good explanation. The French did it.

The old Godzillas movies, excluding the first, just sucked. Bad dubbing and acting.

I like movies that screw around with other movies. That's why I liked Scary Movies 1 & 2.

Wayne's World 2 was a disappointment. The first was great, but the final one didn't make me laugh.
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TomtheMighty · Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 107

Tom the Mighty's Top Ten Worst Movies of All Time (more if you count every movie from categories 6 and 7)

10) Alien Ressurection
09) Darkness Falls
08) Freddy vs. Jason
07) Any Movie that Stars a Sports Playing Animal
06) Any Movie that has Precosious Kids Saving the World
05) Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey
04) Corky Romano
03) Muppets in Space
02) Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
01) Starship Trooper 2: Hero of the Federation (Phil Tippit deserves to die for making such a mockery of the original sci-fi classic!)

ragingflea002 · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:38 am Post subject:

DAMN YOU AIR BUD!!!!!!

Spy Kids.........I wanna kill them little fuckers.....
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