Fanart Pet Peeves

CheetahSmith · Rookie Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 38

Basically, what the title says. I just want to hear your opinions.

What annoys me, is that there is a lot of fanart that is just copied official artwork. You the type, with the same pose and everything. I'm also turned off by DBZ-styled artwork. Ya know, Akira Toriyama isn't a very good artist, so stop copying him. And what is with all of these pieces that look like they've been drawn by FIVE-year-olds and get a lot of comments, while all the really good artists(or so it seems) one or no comments?

Also, there is the usual "YOU ROX! DRAW MOR! TOO TEH FAVS!1!1!" sort of comment. What happened to proper grammer and spelling? What happened to constructive critizism? Sure, praise is nice, but I would like to see some tips and bits of help with that praise.

So, what are your pet peeves?

Seto_lover · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 128

My pet peeve is constantly having the same person fight with me over Kaiba. It really ticks me off that I can't go anywhere without DARKRAVEN1191 always posting on how Seto's hers, and other crap like that.

cstdenis · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:57 pm Post subject:

[quote]What I hate is when people post in crappy work that only takes a bout 3 mins....Also...when people steal work and say that they drawn it....[/quote]

[quote]The pictures that wait for approval is just pain in the neck[/quote]

Ya can't have it both ways. Either people post whatever they want. Crap, broken rules, stolen pics. Or there is an approval pannel to filter out that stuff (at least some of it). I am planing on some quality controls as part of the approval pannel. Those will come maybe sometime next week, or whenever i get around to it.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:

Look, people, maybe this will help.

No matter how much you whine, no matter how much you complain, no matter if you're on your knees in tears, the approval panel will not be removed. This site has gotten too large for there to be no control over what's submitted, and if it were to continue, it could easily end up like DA (with a very small fraction of decent submissions and every image is gone within a minute).

And in reference to the comment about some "crappy" things still getting through: Go reread what the approval panel even is, please. We are NOT rejecting things for quality at this point. Only technical reasons (too big, official art, wrong category). Sometime in the future there will most likely be basic quality controls as well, but I can just hear it now. "I don't like this new quality control thing! They said my picture wasn't good enough, but like, it is sooooooo good!!!!!11"

How hard is it to wait a little while? We're trying to help you people by getting rid of all the junk and giving YOUR good art more exposure, and all you do is bitch about us. Sometimes you just have to wait in life, and like I said on the other thread, you can go make your own site if you're so impatient.

In the meantime, blow me.

EDIT: on second thought, before you do that, here's an even better idea. You don't like the approval panel? Make a suggestion to fix it! You obviously want the result (no official art, things too big, etc.), but you hate how it's done. If you're such a friggin' genius, why don't you share some of that insight with the rest of the class, hmm? And NO, there's no way to have someone on to approve pictures 24/7, so don't even bother saying it.

Now, as for my pet peeves:

1. People who make selfish complaints because a site isn't created just to make them happy. <_<

2. Artists who throw a tantrum if you give them any amount of constructive advice (thus the reason I don't do it anymore)

3. Artists who draw the same thing over and over (and I don't mean same subject matter, I mean the same pose, same scene, same what have you)

4. People who don't elaborate on what they mean (like saying something is wrong but now how to fix it)

Those are my pet peeves. There's a whole other list of things I just don't like and won't look at.
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BAMFManiac · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject:

i don't think the approval panel is that bad. theotaku.com also has one, but it can be up to 2 days before your art is put up. and, there are more restrictions, such as the art has to be under 200 kb and have dimensions under 750x1000. and of course it must be anime. so i really don't see why everyone is bitching so much about it. if you have to wait a little while to see your art put up, so what? it'll be on there for a long time afterwards, so it's not like there's that big of a rush to suddenly put up all of your drawings. besides, the approval people are doing the best they can, and like fallen said, someone can't be on 24/7. i think the quality thing is a good idea too. if someone is so mad for being rejected for their picture that was "soooo good!!!!" then that should just give them more incentive to practice their drawing and become a better artist so they'll be accepted. (lol i'm sure they'll be bitching about that too, tho)

my pet peeves:

people who don't comment- i understand that not every picture is a masterpiece, but some pictures will get so many views and few people will comment. even just saying one thing you like about it is fine- or offering constructive criticism

people who leave a comment, but don't actually say their opinion on your pic. they'll just say they like the character or something (then again, a comment is a comment, so it's all good)

when people put up every single thing they draw, including little 2-minute doodles or a smiley face in mspaint or something. i mean, i draw all the time, too, but i only put up art that i want people's opinion on, and rushed doodles aren't really important (not in my mind, anyway). i think it's a waste of space- people should just put up their real drawings that they worked carefully on or would like a response about.

yea so those are just my opinions... (sorry for the lengthy post)

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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

I wanted to applaud my Humanities teacher when he said this (in reference to writing scholarship/college essays, but it still applies): "I want you to spend a good deal of time on this and really put some effort in. I'll only accept your best, and only the best will be accepted to college. Besides, don't you want people to get the best impression of you? Think the best of you? So only show them your best."

As for the approval panel, I'm about to scan and upload a new piece. Then I'm going to go watch television for two hours, come back, approve it, then bitch to myself about being so slow. Rolling eyes

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iamem0tionless · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject:

My pet peeves:

People who complain about stupid stuff.

People who post pictures who are too big and make it so I have to reject it numerous times, yet they still don't fix them.

Peolple who steal art.

People who type like this: (lyk, u, r, hiz, ttadjksafdlka, ect.)

People who spam.

People who post comments on may art without anything constructive to say.

People who have the maturity level of a two year old.

People who have the intellegence level of a two year old.

People who can't state their opinion without whining about it.

People who get pissed at me for doing what I feel has to be done.

The end.

SquallLeonhart · Rookie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 31

So, fallen angel, you said "No matter how much you whine, no matter how much you complain, no matter if you're on your knees in tears, the approval panel will not be removed". That is kind of untrue, because if half the users on this site leave in anger because it's annoying them, the only thing you'll be able to do is change it back, it's true ya know.

Another thing, I, along with everyone else, mind the approval panel. I'd much rather occasionally come across broken links, official art, etc. than waiting all day (which is what I had to do today) so I can watch 108 pictures flood out maniacally; my computer can't handle it, and I don't even get to see the picture before it's out of the top ten...

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject:

If half the users left, the ones who stayed would get even more exposure then, wouldn't they? And if half left, we wouldn't [i]need[/i] the approval panel because there wouldn't be as many uploads per day. So yes, if half left, the panel would be gone. However, were all the users to come flooding back, something similar would have to be put back.

For everyone complaining, think how childish you're being. Look at DeviantART! They just made a HUGE change to their categorizing system that means everyone has to learn a new system along with going through all their submissions and moving them to the proper place. And the users do it, because they know it helps the site. They don't leave them in the wrong category then whine and cry about it taking too much time. Some people have hundreds of images they had to move, and they did it. There are exceptions, but those people who don't do it will have their images removed for being in the wrong place. It's a part of life. Things change, and you either accept them or move on.
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Lasher · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:

First off, i'm majorly going to bitch here and be pissed off when i right this. So be fore warned, and no, this isn't directly put towards anyone, it's just how i feel, so take it how you will, and get on with your lives to everyone else can.

Okay...

Stop the f**king complaining about the most stupidest things you can possibly complain about? If you want to complain about something, then why don't you go f**king complain to the president for the the billions of dollars of debt the united states has been put in since he parked his texas @$$ in the oval office!

Go complain about how no one believes in free speech anymore, and if the smallest thing is said over the radio, bam! your favorite radio host is taken off the air, for no god damn reason! Complain that your rights aren't being enforced and life is all one big f**king lie.

Now, if you want me to be real cruel, here it is boys girls, prepare yourself, Lasher, I in other words, can be a real bitch.

Squall, i approved one of your pieces of art, and in all honest, it wasn't that great, and you act as if your submitting your damn work, and sitting at your computer desk, starring at the screen, jsut waiting for it to pop up on the top ten list. Like your going to sit there until you get your very frst comment.

Anyone with a brain, doesn't do that. You submit your damn work, go and read the news, download some music, watch tv, do your homework, draw some more and get a little practice in on something you feel is weak, and then later that day, come back and check up to see how many hits your work has gotten, and read the comments if you have any.

The only people really complaining about the god danm thing, are the kids that have nothing better to do than sit in front fo their f**king computer screen all god damn day long! I have to be in front of laptop on f**king day almost with all my classes, my art, my own website, the forums i belong to and help moderate, the chats, the websites i'm part of, the e-mails, my job which involves typing on a computer all f**king day long. And you know what? I still don't sit in front of the damn thing and complain because i've been sitting around on my @$$ for a couple horus waiting for that one piece to appear.

If that's the highlight of your day kiddo's, i suggest you go out, see a movie, play some ball and learn how to drive, because your just wasting life away.

And hearing the same f**king argument made over and over again is wasting MINE! more importantly.

The only thing we have to do on the panel, is make sure the little 12 year old brats, who don't follow the damn rules, don't get their damn work approved, until they follow the rules, file the categories out correctly, and ALL THE WAY! as well as have the piece sized correctly, rated properly, and nothing offical.

There are only 5 or 6 of us on the panel, we all live in different time zones and even countries. We all have different schedules and different life styles. All of us or either finishing high school up or in college and getting somewhere with our lives and NOT complaining about every single little thing.

We get at least 300 submission a day, and yes, it will get backed up at times, but it's no big deal. So stop whinning. Are you going to go complain to the post man when he arrives half hour late to deliver the mail? Get real.

We're working our asses off, and no one ever says thank you but the staff to staff members. Maybe we woudln't be so damn grumpy about it, if you people just gave us some simple thnaks and credit for sitting her and doing work on here in our own time for no one else but guess what...YOU.

And Squall, you really need to learn not to exaggerate numbers by that much. HALF the site does not complain, half the site has not left or will. I'm sure some whinning babies will, but the way i see it, that means less art work to hold o nteh site, which means less of a server bill to pay at the end of the month for denis. Everything on this site is free, you don't have to wait two days for something to be approved, get over it, cause in the end, your work is put up, so why complain.

If i complained about such stupid and pointless things as much as some of you did in real life, i wouldn't be able ot get a job, and i'd probably never be able to graduate from high school because all my time would be spent on complaining and not learning or earning money.

Maybe if you guys just said "Yeah, it is real annoying, but i guess its for the best in the end." or "Well, it's probably really busy and takes up a lot of time with all the work they do, even if it does bite sometimes but.." we wouldn't be so offended, and we would listen to you people more.

All we ever get those is constant complaining, and yet no real suggestions or helping out from any of you so why should we care.

Lasher · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, my pet peeves....

complainers, stealers, inmature people, disrespectful people, spammers, whinners, people who ignore the rules and don't so thanks to others who work hard for their benefit.

there are my dislikes

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject:

Going through and approving 4 or 5 pictures by the same person, I had a thought...

Right after the downtime, we were planning on limiting submissions to one or two a day per person. Were that to happen, the number of upload would be a quarter or fifth of what it is now. So instead of "OMG 100!!!!", there would only be 20-30. Would that make you all happy? Then your best piece of the day wouldn't be so horribly mistreated in the shuffle.

I can just hear the bitching now, because having to wait a whole day to submit this awesome piece they just drew would kill them, I'm sure. <_<
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SquallLeonhart · Rookie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 31

Lasher, you need praise? Thank you for all the time you spent on here complaining to me. Thanks for wasting your life telling me how much of a jerk I am, how disrespectful, annoying, immature, etc. You specifically stated that your reply was to be about no one in specific...well...it kinda was. I'm just the only one saying anything because everyone else is all scared like.

Well, ya know what? while you're sitting there complaining, why don't you just quit if you're so busy? Just quit, I'd be much happier. You're like my father, if you'd even consider slightly any of the suggestions I've made, but no, you start yelling at me left and right that none of it's possible.

Denis, you are awesome for paying for this site, can I just give a few suggestions? Will someone attack me for doing it?

Everyone else, I was just mad the day I started the thread, so sit down, shut up, and listen: I DON'T CARE TO HEAR YOUR COMPLAINING

kathyhime85 · Very bored Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 164

Ok, I know it seems like I'm a newbie, but I've been visiting this site for a while, I only recently signed up!

I don;t draw very well. I like to just look at the pics. What is really annoying is that I would find a pic that sounded so good and click on it and it would be so huge that I would never find the picture.

Another problem would be wrong ratings. it would say "G" and I would look at it and be like "This isn't G, its more like pg-13!"

Also, I've noticed that this site gets [i]flooded[/i] with pics! I'm surprised that they created an approval panel on this because that seems to take a lot of work and time. [i]Thier[/i] time.

Thats why I didn;t sign up for approval panel. I don;t have the time! (even if it seems like it)

iamem0tionless · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject:

First off, you whiney little son of a bitch, you aren't suggesting s**t. You're 'telling' us what to do. Lasher isn't asking for praise, none of us are. We're not asking for anything, we're telling you to quit you're God damn bitching, that's what we're doing. Now, you made this thread for complaints, so I'm not saying anything, what I am saying is YOU HAVE SAID WHAT YOU FEEL AND WE'VE READ IT ENOUGH TIMES, WE DON'T NEED TO READ IT MORE THAN ONCE, MMKAY YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCKWAD? Mkay.

Now, as for telling her to stop complaining, this is a pet peeves thread, so f**king deal with it.

We don't want to read about how your dad hates you, doesn't listen to you, whatever. Tell that s**t to your therapist, we don't care. You're going out of your way to make it seem like you actually have some sort of life. If you did, you wouldn't be constantly making threads about how you hate the little 'approval panel'. Why don't you just shut your God damn mouth, quit being a pussy, and suck it up? Sounds good to me.

SquallLeonhart · Rookie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 31

Kate, I hope you die...never....EVER.....talk to me again...ever...i'm going to cry now, just die.

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject:

Finally someone gets it. It's a NEW thing. Do you expect it to be perfect from the get go? Things are yet to be done. Give it time (though we've already seen how patient some of you are <_<)

As for you wanting to state your ideas, WHAT IDEAS? Your only "idea" has been for people to take care of uploads before they get to huge amounts, and we already said that's not possible. So where's your brilliant ideas, buddy? We're not against ideas. Hell, we'll welcome ideas with open arms, but you specifically made a "suggestion" that was stated many many times as not possible. Shows how much you read.
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Raymei · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:07 pm Post subject:

Oh jeeze.....Squall, why don't you go change your diapers. that should make you feel better..... T.T
Then head over to Deviant art and get out of everyone's hair.

You have to understand, that almost everyone who's bitching about the panel and their pictures having to wait, are the kids who just want "gimme gimme" T.T

And this isn't a freaking business. How many times do people have to tell you? No one is earning any money from this so even if half of the members went on strike (which I would pay to see since that would be mostly/all kids meaning most of the low low quality stuff) nothing would really happen.
This isn't Safeway.
If people don't go to the site, what do you think will happen?
Our profits won't go down forcing us to bend to your whims because [i]there are no profits!![/i] (which would make it a business)

I'm guessing your either middle school/early highschool since you obviously know squat about economics.

Okay n.n I'm done. Had to vent that.
Oh yeah, my pet peeves on FAC....members like Squall T.T
Oh, and....members who think that their art is deleted for no good reason and try to post it again with an angry little message stating so.
You kids need to wise up. ("build your thighs up" lol Fallen should get that one n.n)

PS- Kate...Fallen...Lasher...once again T_T you guys rock

WynaHIros · Rookie Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 29

Stupid comments, like "OMG I LUV IT. THIS IS GOOD KEEP DRAWING MORE".

Oh, and recently, I've been accused (on this site) of stealing my own art, which is plain irritating as I recently had a run in with someone mistaking me for someone who tried to (badly) rip my Zelda stuff off earlier.

Don't know, but I was worried that it would happen again, and low and behold, I was right. o.o; So that's my super pet-peeve: art thieves and idiots who go and post comments without doing the research.

Is ripping myself off even physically possible?

Anyways, I think the approval panel is a wonderful idea.

--Wyna Hiros

layzcarter · I used to work here Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3988

Peeves = SquallLeonhart, math class doodles, " I do requests " offers when all ur work is just paint doodle crappers.
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