Fanart Pet Peeves

layzcarter · I used to work here Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3988

I thought I would bring this back to life for now. Smile

As I have an annoyance to speak of. It mainly has to do with the fanart central award nominations but I don't feel like bitching in there. It would just clutter it up more.So here we go.

Why, would anyone nominate themselves for an award? How stupid is that? And the ego it takes to do something like that. I'm sorry but I looked at some of the people who nominated themselves, and you so do not deserve any award. Some however really do deserve to be nominated, however not by themselves. Very annoying.

The same could also be said for the "Your favorite artist" topics. My favorite artist is me!!!! ummm... okay. You like your drawings, that's nice but that isn't the point of the topic.

[b]self-centered[/b]
Engrossed in oneself and one's own affairs; selfish.

[b]Egocentric [/b]
Holding the view that the ego is the center, object, and norm of all experience.

Confined in attitude or interest to one's own needs or affairs.
Caring only about oneself; selfish.

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WynaHIros · Rookie Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 29

Another pet peeve: people posting only to try and get requests, constantly, even though I've specifically stated in my profile that I can't and won't take them.

--Wyna

Stratadrake · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:43 am Post subject:

[quote]Why, would anyone nominate themselves for an award? How stupid is that? And the ego it takes to do something like that. I'm sorry but I looked at some of the people who nominated themselves, and you so do not deserve any award. Some however really do deserve to be nominated, however not by themselves. Very annoying.[/quote]

Maybe there should be a rule, if somebody nominates themselves for an award, they are automatically disqualified from getting it until next time.

On a side, I noticed that when you click the "add to favorites" button on a pic, there's nothing internally to check that you aren't trying to add one of your own pictures/yourself to your list.

[quote]Another pet peeve: people posting only to try and get requests, constantly, even though I've specifically stated in my profile that I can't and won't take them.[/quote]

Need a drastic option? If they leave a comment asking for a request, delete the comment then drop a comment on their profile saying NO.

Which reminds me of something that happened a few months ago... (nothing bad, just a peeve that I'm going to take care of).
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Powtaz · Oldbie Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 2140

[quote="layzcarter (Lynda)"] I thought I would bring this back to life for now.
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i'd be pulling knives out of my body if i was the one to do that lol

Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

I really don't like those gothic self mutilation pictures you see everywhere, usually featuring furries. It's not shocking, and not meaningfull, nobody is impressed by the depth and ideas it took to make it, and if by chance some people are, I don't like those people either. It's lame.

And I don't like furries, because it's stupid. Those artists usually know only how to make those creatures and learn to draw those things before drawing more conventional things. It's their loss.

And with all due respect to the artist, this kind of pictures shouldn't make it through the approval panel. There should be some kind of level the artists must have. I know it's never going to happen, but I just don't like this kind of childish mspaint stuff. Maybe a level system for artists? And being able to search in for example only the higher level artists? That would be awesome, but a LOT of work. And there is no real way to measure or compare it. I can dream though...

Stratadrake · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject:

Y'know that just plain stinks. In my opinion [b]any picture [i]without[/i] a readable title should be rejected.[/b]

Stated reason could be something like "Title too generic. Give it a title that identifies what it is."

Of course, I'm dreaming too Rolling eyes

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layzcarter · I used to work here Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3988

The name title thing should be taken into consideration. As for rejecting work because it stinks, I don't think so. It all really depends on the artists skill level. If that is the persons best work, then I see no reason to reject it. However if they admit in their description that it was a doodle, or if their gallery shows they are more skilled, then I usually do reject it. There is a section in anime/manga-original for ms paint pics. Usually if I come across any I'll put them in there.

Rejecting peoples art because it isn't yet developed is a little mean. It is very discouraging to the person submitting it. Because although it may look like sh*t to you, they probably think it's awesome. The amount of sh*tty artists pretty much outnumber the amount of decent artists on this site. Which is we now have artists of the month, and the fac awards in works. So you can see quality stuff without having to search through ms paint doodle pictures.

And no offense but I really don't think it's too nice posting a link to that persons pic. If you were just commenting on the title or a message it sends, that would be fine.. but your picking it apart to show everyone how you define crappy art. You could easily just say "I'm sick of those ms paint doodle pics that look like they take less than a minute to produce" and we would understand. I'm not bitching at you I'm just pointing this out. How would you feel if someone used one of your pictures for the same reason?

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DaBear · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject:

Hmmm, I really dont see an excuse for MSP drawings. Artist are using that as an excuse to draw sh*t. All of my inkings are in MSP and Ill be damned if I excuse anything I do. If I f*ck up thats on me not the program. I did have a posting on how to draw with the program posted here, but I thought Id just keep FAC for my Angels art (which means I should pull down the portait too, the hentai pic is ToniBo from a 1988 thing I was going through in my 1st marriages 7 year itch period). If you think people would read it (it did have about 600-700 views, I dont think it was being read though, lol) Ill repost it. Mayby even a little more in depth!?!
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kathyhime85 · Very bored Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 164

MSP is hard to draw it. It takes getting used to. Unlike paper, where you draw directly on it, you're using a mouse, so its harder because you don't look at your hand as you draw. Coloring using msp I use a lot because I'm too lazy to find the rest of my colored pencils. It works fine for me. See my deviantart gallery to see!

Thirteen_Black_Roses · Has No Life Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 510

[quote]Y'know that just plain stinks. In my opinion any picture without a readable title should be rejected.

Stated reason could be something like "Title too generic. Give it a title that identifies what it is."

Of course, I'm dreaming too

Stated reason could be something like "Title too generic. Give it a title that identifies what it is."

Of course, I'm dreaming too [/quote]

Yes! I totally agree. There definately should be some standards for titles. Like, it has to have one. And I know I've said this before, but there should be some encouragement to title your pics something other than 'Inuyasha!!!"

I have to say that people shouldn't be rejected for posing stuff off MSP, as nice as it would be. However, they should take responibility for the suckyness. Maybe reject anything that says "It's not my fault, it's Paint!" or something like that. Cause if they don't care enough to improve, or at least put in some effort, I don't care enough to look.

Bruce, I'd love to read your tutorial. If you put it back, let us know!

Stratadrake · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject:

[quote]Yes! I totally agree. There definately should be some standards for titles. Like, it has to have one. And I know I've said this before, but there should be some encouragement to title your pics something other than 'Inuyasha!!!"[/quote]

Another dream: Giving the approval panel the option of "approved with reservations". Basically approval+email confirmation, primarily for reasons that don't warrant rejection but should be mentioned anyway for the artist's future benefit -- e.g. "You should think of a better title for this picture than 'Inuyasha!!!' ", or "You should give this picture a description to tell us more about it".

Hmmm...

[dreaming]I suppose a more enforceable set of criteria for titles might be:
1 - Title must be readable. Pure punctuation marks for titles get rejected
2 - If a picture has a title beginning with punctuation marks, for the obvious reason of showing up at the top of the alphabetical list, it gets rejected.
3 - Quotation marks and spanish punctuation may appear at the start of the title when needed. Otherwise, the title must begin with a letter or number.[/dreaming]

On another note, I sorta hate it when an artist uploads a pic, and even when it's a pretty good pic, they don't tell us anything about it. Usually it's when they just leave the description field blank, although on a few occasions I have seen a pic or two with a description to the tune of "I'm not explaining this, you should know what this is already". Well phoo, if that's what they think, their picture's not worth my time and feedback, even if it's a good one.

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Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

I probably shouldn't have done that, but I guess i got carried away after seeing one more picture I can do myself under 2 minutes in spam.

But mspaint in itself can be a very good tool, because it is very precise. I don't color very often on the pc, but when I do, I also use paint a lot. One thing though, is the quality loss when you make the picture a jpg, it's bigger than in photoshop. And more respect to those who make good quality pictures in paint of course.

cstdenis · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject:

[quote]Hmmm, I really dont see an excuse for MSP drawings. Artist are using that as an excuse to draw sh*t. All of my inkings are in MSP and Ill be damned if I excuse anything I do[/quote]
There are some quite skilled artists on here that use MS Paint. I dont know how they manage skilled art out of that program, but somehow they do. Ariel is another example of quality from MS paint.

I dont know how people can draw well with a mouse, but they seem to be able to. Then again, whith my artisitic ability, I'm impressed by people being able to draw at all ~.~

[quote]Another dream:.....[/quote]
Added to feature list, I'll consider it as part of the changes that will need to happen to the AP.

Tho I think those title restrctions are reasonable and will add them to the AP thread.

[quote]One thing though, is the quality loss when you make the picture a jpg, it's bigger than in photoshop[/quote]
The type of pics made in MS Paint are almost always better suited to gif format anyway.
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EN1X · Site Helper Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 764

Something that's been a tad annoying lately: "The first comment dance"
Yeah, I know, getting to be the first one to see and comment on another's picture is ok and all; but I find it annoying to go look at a picture and see "OMG! FIRST COMMENT! *does the first comment dance*"

(anyone care to show me what the first comment dance looks like? o.0)

Another thing:
People who try to be funny with their pics. And they say something like: "lolz! i drew this when i was drunk" ...

mewmagic5 · Rookie Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 39

Ah...the first comment dance....who doesn't love that...

Oh wait, I don't...>.<

Especially, when instead of actually commenting, they just write that, then leave...it helps no one, just takes up space...I even remember one picture where someone wrote that, and then the next 5 or 6 comments were that same person and another arguing over who really posted first....

As for MS paint...I actually do a lot of drawing on it, and I usually also color pics on it...*points to icon* I actually did that by just minimizing the window to 100x100 and going for it...

Personally, I like it, and I like when other people use it....but when they post something that they scribbled on for a whole 4 minutes....

That's where I get irritated....>.<

Stratadrake · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:42 am Post subject:

[quote](anyone care to show me what the first comment dance looks like? o.0)[/quote]

I think it's the one where you take your left hand and hold it in front of your face, perpendicular with the thumb on your nose, fingers outstretched, and you wiggle the fingers on your left hand while staring cross-eyed at your left thumb and rubbing your belly....

I'll mention just two for now. One, if somebody asks "Do you take requests?" [i]on one of my pictures[/i]. The answer is no, but if they really want to ask they should do so on my profile and not one of my pictures. Lately I've declared a zero-tolerance policy for those comments (even though I've really only received, hmmm... [i]two[/i] Rolling eyes

), so if I see one appearing on my pictures I'm going to delete it with no second thoughts.

Another one, somebody commented on a few of my pictures awhile back. The comments themselves aren't too bad (neither very constructive, nor spam), but the couldn't keep their muses under control while commenting. A minor nit really. I think I'll get around to them in a week or so.
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Raymei · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:35 am Post subject:

[quote="mewmagic5 (Michiyo Nakashima)"] Ah...the first comment dance....who doesn't love that...

Oh wait, I don't...>.<

Especially, when instead of actually commenting, they just write that, then leave...it helps no one, just takes up space...I even remember one picture where someone wrote that, and then the next 5 or 6 comments were that same person and another arguing over who really posted first.... [/quote]
Usually when this happens T_T I delete the comment (but only after someone else comments too lol)

then they're not first anymore n.n bwhaahahaha

My pet peeve?
right now T.T titles that start with punctuations (like "! A girl !" or "~* Yugi *~")

You know they're just doing it so their picture gets to the top of the list (in categories)
Problem is, so many of them do it, that the lists just get scrambled up.

Every so often doesn't bother me, but when people's galleries are filled almost entirely with these titles *cough*May_B*cough*cough* T.T it just makes me want to shake 'em like a bad nanny.

That....and "human-photo-copies" (images that are either exactly copied from, or all but hair/clothes, an existing picture)
T.T those are just un-creative and lazy to me

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:41 am Post subject:

Mmm, Nimra would beg to differ.
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Raymei · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:47 am Post subject:

I"m talking more of anime pictures and such

drawing realistically o.o whether it's from a photo or real life, is hard.

But drawing cartoons by just looking at the picture and redrawing it is kinda.....dull. The lines are pretty clear and generally simple.
But when you can see a picture and right away either tell it's a re-draw or can even name what picture it was copied off of....that's irritating

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:

Ah, I've always heart the human photocopy remark in reference to stuff like Nimra.
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