Paper

[DragonicFlames]

Myself, I use a white computer kind of paper, but I also have sketch books with white paper and the kind of paper that really rough to the touch and you have to be careful on how hard you press down on it, cause it memorizes all the pencil strokes.

Do you guys think it's pretty good to use the white computer paper?

Oo;

Just incase you need this info:

I use sharpies(sp?)
Regular makers
Crayola Colored Pensils
and
.07 Lead from my mechanical Pensils.

Some times I use Pastels, but very rarely, me and pastels have arguements.
I paint some times but not really.
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[Rebus]

[quote]Do you guys think it's pretty good to use the white computer paper?
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It's not so much a question of good or bad as of what effect each produces. It's good to experiment with different papers for each medium rather than just buying the paper that has the right recommendations on the front... the results are surprising sometimes.

For pastels I'd use thick rough paper, and ditto for paints, but that's just my own preference. There's rarely a right or wrong answer, it just depends how you use your medium and what effects you're looking for. I'm not really much of a user of pencils or markers, so I can't really tell. I'd be inclined to go for rough paper, but that's probably because I'm not after sharp lines or clarity. Smooth paper is usually better if you're wanting fine details.

Also try experimenting with slightly off-white paper... makes a surpising difference.

There is the issue of permanence when you're using computer paper... it isn't designed for art and you may find your work smudging or fading sooner than it should, so you'd have to be careful if you want to keep it for any length of time.

In short... experiment with different types rather than just listening to people tell you which is best. They usually mean best for [i]them[/i].

Sorry I can't be more help.

R

[KFelidae]

If you're doing mostly pencil or charcoal work, go for Bristol board. The rough kind, mind you. Now, the stuff is rather expensive when bought in single sheets, but suprisingly cheap if taken in a tablet. Inking on Bristol is fine, as long as its NOT Sharpie*.

For inks alone, try Vellum (a type of Bristol), or poster board. Scratch board (uninked) works fine, but needs to be sealed to prevent the top layer from scraping off. Until it's sealed, it can be scraped and rubbed to achieve some very neat affects.

For simple sketches, get a pad of newsprint. It's thin, simple stuff that takes pencil well, and erases as long as the pencil marks are light. It is, however, off-white, and should not be used for finished drawings.

If you're going to finish any drawing on good paper, it's advisable to do all the linework on printer paper/newsprint first, then transfer it onto better paper. This can be done either with store-bought transfer paper put between the original drawing and the good paper, or by covering the entire backside of the original drawing with graphite (pencil lead), then taking a pencil and going over the original with slight pressure.

* NEVER use Sharpies to ink if you want to keep your drawings for any period of time. Sharpies have a very real tendency to fade-out into yellow when exposed to oxygen for a few years. You can have beautiful peices that you might want to show a teacher, and take them out of your portfolio only to find a yellow ghost where the Sharie touched the page.


-KF

[DragonicFlames]

For the time that it takes for fading to occur, I most likely will hate what I drew. I always do when I look back on my older works, I say to myself, "How could I draw something that digusting and stupid looking!" and beat myself up into a pulpish blob of me-ness. And have already thrown it away or burned it.


The only thing that I have that I really wanted to save is a dragon drawing, I haven't stuck up here and that I did completely with paints and on sketch paper (go me, xD! ) but for as the rest of my works, most of is just outlined in sharpie and colored with color pensil.

The work I have right now on the wall is basicly my normal stuff, some I deleted off of here but it helps me to "focus my energy" (xD!) i guess, into drawing something. But my point is, that even though I am using a sharpie, most of my drawings don't hang around long enough to fade.

I personally like the Computer paper that isn't smooth but has some texture to it, I forget the brand I got, so I am going to have a hard time looking for it again in the near future (which is why I bought three of them ;P )

The other marker I am using to outline too is like a water kind, you know you can see the marker fluid through the holder and you have to shake it up before use. I have them in all kinds of color (low on my green though...), which I was given to as a gift by a friend and those a pretty good if you want solid color on the kind of paper that I use.

I went out to day and looked for the prismacolor markers, OMFA! Those are expensive. xX; I am not spending 179 bucks on 48 markers. I know some of ya around here said that they were kind of expensive, but I really didn't expect that much for markers. It kind of freaked me out, I am still talking about it, I think I pissed off one of my friends and cousins cause of that. xD!



Anyway, I do use the sketch book kind of paper too, but I haven't really opened my sketch book in a while cause I am trying to dent my white paper supply. But thanks for your advice you two. I think then next time I am in a specailty shop again, I'll try and get some of that off-white paper you were talking about Rebus and some of that more rough paper that you were talking about KFelidae.


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[Lizkay]

I would say you should use the right paper for the right medium. Computer or Copy Paper is really good for digital works, because it's not too shiny and too big for a normal scanner, if you use normal ink or markers it is thick enough and also sketches you plan to color on the PC work really good with copy paper, I use that stuff mainly for all my digital works!
Tradtitional media is a bit tricky, as for sepia and charcoal, copy paper is too smooth, you could blow all the particles away. I mainly draw with designer's pencils and woodless color pencils, these work really good on 90-135g/m paper wich isn't too heavy and thick at all, I also love to work on qudratic paper, because it better fits to my motives, you must scan it in two parts than.. but that is no big deal! ^_^
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[Rebus]

[quote]For the time that it takes for fading to occur, I most likely will hate what I drew. I always do when I look back on my older works, I say to myself, "How could I draw something that digusting and stupid looking!" and beat myself up into a pulpish blob of me-ness. And have already thrown it away or burned it. [/quote]

Well, at least it means you're improving. It's more depressing when you look at something you did ages ago and think 'how the hell did I [i]do[/i] that?'

[ramza_belourve]

if youre not concentraded on doing professionnal drawings
normal blanc paper will do fine

[Raymei]

for black and white stuff I use Deleter B4 size manga paper (with the measure lines)

For color stuff I use B4 size kent paper (works best with copics)


If you can get your hands on them, I'd use copic liners instead of sharpies o.o they feel about the same but it's a lot better quailty (they won't go through the paper quite as easy either)

[DragonicFlames]

Lizkay: I don't have a scanner, I have a digital camera and a photo editer thing called Veo Digital Studio. Feel luck you have a scanner, it's a pain to line up everything all the time.


Rebus: LMAO! xD! Yeah, I still get freaked out from my older drawings, they all got oval heads that are three times bigger than their bodies and I would hide the hands cause I couldn't do them so well, I kind of still can't but I am atleast trying.


ramza_belourve: I wish I was a professional drawer.. No just joking, they have pretty hard lives. If I go into anything that really has to do with drawing it will be like cartoon animation ( we all know how most of the american animations are sooo easy to draw. xD! Blobs, really ). Besides, most of my art is just a fun hobby, probably why i don't have much in my gallery (also i delete a lot of my older pictures off, cause they do look a little odd sitting next to my newer stuff )


Raymei : I'll look for those copic liners. I have heard about manga paper like that, but i have no comic store were I could get it. And mail order out here is a bunch of money.

( BTW if I haven't told you people this, your guys are a lot of help. Even when we aren't on a topic, I see a lot of you on the forums and when you guys explain some of the way you guys do your stuff, it helps me out. So Thanks! )
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[Raymei]

This is the best place to get manga supplies like paper and such:
http://www.akadotretail.com/shop/comictones.php

It's real cheap and has almost everything.

For Copics and Copic liners:
http://www.copicmarker.com


Unless you live near a Kinokunia bookstore o.o

[Gameglitch]

Yep I use almost all STUDIO sketch book paper; the big plus about this paper isits cheap, under 2 bucks ($1.77 before tax I think) for 30 sheets at Superstore in Canada B.C. And the paper is made in Canada/ Toronto by HILROY Company.
Its not bad quality to boot. If youre using ink how ever, it will go though the other side and wreck the other paper behind it and also don't press too hard or it or it will crease the other side also. Well thats my 2 cents on this topic.