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JJ
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember that.
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xWildfirEx
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only reason I still go to fanfiction is 'cos I'm finishing up all the fics that I've started reading. Can't abandon the poor authors, ne? Usually I'm the only one who reviews. Well, that and for ODDs beyblade fanfics. ^-^
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JJ
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, you're the only reveiwer for ODDs Bayblade's fanfic. Looks like the fans don't like the fanfiction.
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rafusen
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes fiddle around with fanfiction...and used to post on ff.net, but lately...it seems like there is so much junk. I've decided to start posting fanfiction on me peeji and on adult ff, since a lot of my stories are gorey or somewhat explicit. It sems like the new breed of fangirls has pretty much absorbed ff.net and that in itself makes it difficult to deal with.

I still read some of my old favourites...and there are a few authors who sometimes update who've been around that are worth reading.
I think what bugs me the most is the lack of original fanfiction anymore. I mean, it's out there, if you can find it among the millions of crappy 'stories'. Every once and a while I'll come across somebody. I'm kinda a 'shounen-ai' 'yaoi' girl anyway, and those are always the most difficult to find!! That genre has literally been eaten away at until you're reading the exact same descriptions over and over.
^^' Not to say that anything I write is any good...please don't assume I'm being obnoxious...
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JJ
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ok.
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cstdenis
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]The fact that their administration didn't know this TOTALLY turned me off of this site completely.[/quote]

I have no clue what fanfiction is posted here. Some fanart too for that matter. Does that turn you off this site?


This site will remain uncensored (the approval panel and stuff is bad enough). I belive I would shutdown the site before I start removing any adult material of any kind for being adult.
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xWildfirEx
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JJ (Just JJ)"] Wow, you're the only reveiwer for ODDs Bayblade's fanfic. Looks like the fans don't like the fanfiction. [/quote]
No, usually I'm the only reviewer. But in ODD's case... well, she has so many reviewers... its not fair.
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JJ
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh.
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fallenangel
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, if you hate ff.net, throw a steamy scene in your story or kill someone and put it on adult fanfiction. Unless you suck, then keep your crap away. Razz

I don't care if the admins notified everyone; I saw their notices. But why why why did they get rid of the NC17 stories? All it did was make a lot of people who had them resubmit under R or PG13. I was already submitting my R rated story as PG13 so that it would automatically show up on the list and not be "hidden". At least before they were clearly rated, and it's a user's own fault if they ignore that. Getting rid of "real people"...bull. Most of the people I knew who submitted real people stories just resubmitted to other sections. And a lot of the television stories are about the actors, not the shows anyway.

And Denis, I think the bigger issue wasn't [i]what[/i] was being posted as much as the fact it was being posted while strictly forbidden. Besides the predator thing, which someone surely must have reported those stories. WTF?

I really can't stand a lot of fanfiction these days because there's such a tiny amount of original stories out there. Even really good authors get caught up in being good. Not naming names (not that they're here), but I knew of an author who wrote a really awesome long story. Original, very different, a couple original characters to keep it believable (come on, unless it's a cartoon it's very difficult to ONLY have pre-done ones)... Then after she finished the first, she wrote a sequel. That was fine, it was really good. Another novel-length, creative work that people enjoyed. Then she wrote a third. Not quite as good as the first two, but at least it was still new and kinda interesting. Getting to be a few too many plot twists, breakups, makeups, and near-misses. Then she wrote a fourth. WTF? And a fifth. Last I saw she was on the 6th or 7th story because she just CAN'T LET IT GO. People liked the first one, and I don't know if she's just afraid she won't be able to come up with anything as good or better or what, but it's becoming the same story over and over and over. Same goes for authors who write multiple stories but all about the same exact thing.

It's sad and a little frustrating to see talented authors wasting it like that.
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JJ
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They got rid of NC-17 because an under age child read a NC-17 story, that child's perants complane to the adm of FF.net. Well, that want I heard.
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fallenangel
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's bullshit. It's the kid's own fault for clicking on a clearly labeled story. They KNEW what it was. Punish the kid. Grr!
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JJ
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, the child should be blam, but he wasn't. That's what I heard.
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Yami_Yugi
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess it's because of the site's popularity that it's getting a bit slow since it's all cramped.
I disagree though with the not writing 'the story's great, please continue' thing. It alway's lifts my spirit's up that's why I always manage to finish a chapter.
There are also reason's why some writers get's banned or their stories getting deleted from the site. Either doing something offensive, not following regulations and thing like that.
You can't blame other people if they lack writing abilities. It's a free site, so anyone can distribute. Just let them be. Maybe they're just trying to use up their imagination, or try to improve.
I was once a lame writer you know, having for about only 1 review to 5. But I soon catched up and got 10,15 to 20 reviews in every chapter I update.
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JJ
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, so true.
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jhonenfreak
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]I was already submitting my R rated story as PG13 so that it would automatically show up on the list and not be "hidden".[/quote]

Yeah, it's annoying when I'm looking for a certain R rated story and I'm unknowingly searching through G-PG13 stories the whole time. I always try to change it before I browse, so there's really no point of keeping the R stuff out.

As for the kids, yes, punish them. Punish them baaad. If they can read through chapters of gore and slash then they can surely read the letter "R". Ignorance is not a solid backup. How many of these kids do you think go tell their parents about the questionability of a story after the first provocative line? I'm sure they're all sittin' there, reading the whole story, and then go "My goodness! I can't believe you let me read that! I'm just a 12 year old kid for crying out loud! What a horrid, irresponsible site you have for us little kiddies! I'll have my parents write you a nasty letter!" Give me a break. And if a parent does walk in on their kid reading aduld material without the kid bringing it up, that's practically the same thing as discovering your kid surfing through internet porn. The internet allows freedom of speach. If you can't handle it then don't read it. You're not forced to do anything. Cased closed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello Everybody!!

I agree with Yami-Yugi.
All of the 'That's great, keep up the good work' stuff helps me to go on! I'm a writer at ff.net and all my reviews from my readers, even the little ones help me and keeps me writing.

I know that I had BIG problems with writing when I was starting out but the people on ff.net helped me out, like my friend on the site, Yugi-obsessed. She helped me with all my problems with my writing and when my writing wasn't very good at all, people kept on reviewing and cheering me on and I don't think it's right for people to bash other people for the way that they write and I have a friend that has a wonderful story on the site and she had the same problem that I did with getting the words jumbled together but her story is wonderful and touching.

I am a firm supporter of ff.net and all the writers that post their works there.

By the way, if anybody wants to read my stories, my name on the site is YugisGal16. Smile

AngelOfLight16 ^___^

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm o*fire mage*o in ff.net by the way, if you want to read some of my fanfics.^_^
Well... yaoi fanfics.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kewl!!

I like yaoi stories, almost all of mine are yaoi!

Whenever i get the time, i'll read some of your stories, Yami-Yugi! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]But why why why did they get rid of the NC17 stories?  All it did was make a lot of people who had them resubmit under R or PG13.[/quote]

Because they're stupid. I noticed a lot of stories resubmitted as R and PG13, too. Getting rid of the NC17 rating doesn't get rid of the content itself. A lot of the NC17 fics I read got to be really violent (for stories, anyway), but they were really well-written and deserved to be on there more than a lot of other stories that weren't taken off.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. A lot of the NC17 stories were perfectly valid, good writing that happened to include very violent or sexual parts. And usually those were by older, more "mature"/experienced authors. Now the few who wrote NC17 "stories" just to write a 200 word piece of crap are the ones submitting them as G, so instead of everything being properly labeled, kids click on stuff and find that.

As for good or bad writing, bad writing is generally characterized by a lack of effort. If someone really tries but is lacking some of the developed writing skills, that's fine and they should continue to practice and get help. But the ones who spend an hour whipping out a lousy cliche full of typos and grammar errors with obviously no attempt to even click spell check or make it a good piece, those are junk. And unfortunately a lot of those wind up on ff.net.
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