Are You Sick Of Hearing Sex On The Radio?

[Sephir0th666777]

If you listin to the right kinds off music, there is virtually no sex.

Queen, David Bowie, Niel Young, Rush.

No of those keep a constant sexual focus.
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[fallenangel]

I don't think the point is to listen to a different kind of music entirely.

Bowie...has very clever lyrics, as Jhonen pointed out before. It's not nearly as obvious as a lot of modern rap, but the references are there.
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[Koikaji_Saru_the_Wierd_O]

Yeah... it will pass, but what will be listening to next?
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[L7]

I'm not tired of hearing it. I don't see anything wrong with it. Some pretty decent songs about sex are out there...like "The Stroke" by Billy Squire and "Pour Some Sugar On Me" by Def Leppard. I have noticed a lot of radio commercials with sex in it though. Like the new Corona commercial where the lady is talking all sexy and describing the "plasic bottles" like fake big boobs. I don't like sex commercials...its awkward. :huh:

[Xx_AviloriA_xX]

Maybe so, but some say different things.Where I live there is too much. I believe some songs hint out that sex is there for anyone. All the song's lyrics say "Sex is a good thing! Nothing is better!" Even kids from 7+ think so. And men metion it to young girls. Some idiotic boy around 15 saying I have to learn how to take 'it'. Well he can take my fist in his face. most songs where i live only say one thing to society's children "Have sex, NOW!"

[fallenangel]

And who's to say what's "too much"? You? Do you get to decide what everyone else listens to?

It's people like you who are the reason for parental warning stickers and an overall fuck you to artistic freedom. And you can say you're only targeting such n' such group all you want, but it never happens that way. [i]Everyone[/i] is affected when you start trying to enforce guidelines on people.

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[Barney--TheAnti-Christ]

sex songs are creepy and uncalled for. That's all I have to say.

[Koikaji_Saru_the_Wierd_O]

[quote]And who's to say what's "too much"? You? Do you get to decide what everyone else listens to?[/quote]
nyah, are you talking about me?
Never said aything about "too much" but no, just asked if you were tired of it, you can listen to whatever the hell you want.
"Whatever floats your boat"
[quote]It's people like you who are the reason for parental warning stickers [/quote]
Are they a bad thing? I find them both useful and annoying at times.

Not trying to "enforce guidelines on people"
OK?
All I did was ask a simple question.
Calm down a bit.
[quote]most songs where i live only say one thing to society's children "Have sex, NOW!" [/quote]
Thats what Im talking about, I guess there isnt as much in other places.
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[fallenangel]

Look at the post right above mine and you'll see what I was talking about.

It's your thread, but it's not all directed to you.

Parental warning stickers are ridiculous for the mere fact they put blanket restrictions on everyone. Kids under 16 are technically not supposed to be allowed to purchase them (although very few stores check ID). There's no distinction of WHAT the sticker is restricting or what amount. I've got albums that were stickered for a handful of profanity and others that are full of it, sexual lyrics, violence, whatever. It's so ridiculously arbitrary.

Now with movies, there's a distinct set of rules that make up the ratings. There's no guess work about what a movie contains, especially if you look up the reasons for the rating, as every movie has. But a parental warning sticker is both useless and harmful. Wal*Mart and a handful of other stores won't even carry the albums. That's a lot of money lost for no gain.

I'm not saying stickered albums should have a giant paragraph, or even a more descriptive sticker. It's ALL pointless. The principle of it is even stupid. Tipper thought Prince's Purple Rain was obscene? And that Ozzy's music was too satanic? That's exactly what I'm talking about. How does the sticker protect anyone when you have no idea what it's warning against. If it was created to warn people about lyrics like "And Nikki started to grind", it's pretty outdated and useless to be slapping it on Eminem.

And no, I won't calm down. "I may not like what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" <-- someone. Picasso said something similar about painting too.
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[slavetotheWALL]

Are we talking about sex in music or sex on the radio :huh:

Well at any rate I really dont mind songs that hint mention or even speak about sex (unless of course its rap because there are only some many words you can rhyme with the word b*****) Primarily Id like to think of sex as an inspiration for some rock groups like Aerosmith for example (of course sex wasnt the only thing that influenced steve tylers songs) Aerosmith is one of my favorite bands and if sex didnt influence their songs what would it sound like.

But the one thing that agrovates me is how people try to protect other people from an inevitable kind of thing and sex is a big thing. The stupid thing about all of this is and I qoute that kids dad from American Pie "It is a perfectly natural normal kind of thing" Parental tags are trying to "hide" and "protect" us from such "abnormal" and "dirty way of thinking" If they put parental tags in music then why dont they start putting them on everything else like statues portraits and most any other kinds of artwork (and music is art)

Think of an individual song as a statue now would it be a fair if we were to condemn an artist for showing his feelings (Like many before him) through art when people from 100's of years ago made portraits and statues that were clearly influenced by sex

[fallenangel]

Sex on the radio.

[quote]But the one thing that agrovates me is how people try to protect other people from an inevitable kind of thing and sex is a big thing.[/quote]

And that's exactly my point. There's a difference between not liking something (hell, I wish they'd never play another Linkin Park or Good Charlotte song again) and there being a valid reason for putting guidelines on something. And as it is, there aren't any.

A lot of other countries have very relaxed views of sex on television (but strict ones on violence). It's not the talking about sex that is the problem. It's the hiding it. If you tell a kid not to do something or hide it from them, that's often the first thing they do.
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[slavetotheWALL]

[quote]A lot of other countries have relaxed views of sex on television[/quote]

Thats because they have finally realized that sex is a NATURAL thing and there is no point on hiding it.

Unlike us where we think of it as bad and corrupting our childrens brains and that its abnormal.

Another thing is what is the use of trying to keep secrets because if you have ever had a younger brother and he is excused from the room due to some Pornographic text nine chances out of ten the child will do anything in his power to find out what he is not a loud to see.

I can understand violence but what I dont understand is why cover up sex

I mean people act as if its a F****ing disease

[moshing_squirrel]

[quote="fallenangel (fallen)"] And just because someone likes a song about sex, does not mean they'll go out and fuck anything with a pulse. [/quote]
LOL

I agree.

[Talin]

Meh, I don't listen to the radio. If I want to listen to music I sit at the computer and listen to the 19hrs:54Mins of music I have there or put on my headphones and listen to a CD. All they play where I live is Hip-Hop, and I hate Hip-Hop. Can you say, No Talent? But songs with Sexual themes don't really bother me. As the following song I like shows:
"Add it Up"-The Violent Femmes
why can't I get just one kiss
why can't I get just one kiss
there may be somethings that I wouldn't miss
but I look at your pants and I need a kiss
why can't I get just one screw
why can't I get just one screw
believe me I know what to do
but something won't let me make love to you
why can't I get just one f***
why can't I get just one f***
I guess it's got something to do with luck
but I waited my whole life for just one
day after day
I get angry...yada yada yada...

[Koikaji_Saru_the_Wierd_O]

[quote]Think of an individual song as a statue now would it be a fair if we were to condemn an artist for showing his feelings (Like many before him) through art when people from 100's of years ago made portraits and statues that were clearly influenced by sex [/quote]
Nyah, if you're talking about the greek statues and etc, those weren't "influenced" by sex. Those were studies of the human body and grace. Some just show the innocence, (like, there are many that do not have clothes on, but they have angels, or clouds) protraying an essence of Heaven.
nyah, off topic.

And apollogies for not realizing not everyone (thank god) listens to the same music. Well I guess I knew, but didn't think about it. >>

Anyway, by saying the above ^^^^^ I should have stated the case better and said I was talking about rap. I wasn't talking about how which bands and groups were influenced, just if you were tired of it as a whole.

[quote]A lot of other countries have very relaxed views of sex on television (but strict ones on violence). [/quote]
Because alot of other countries see it as a more "loving" act. Not just for fun. Although thta doen't mean [i]everyone[/i] thinks like that.

[quote]It's the hiding it. If you tell a kid not to do something or hide it from them, that's often the first thing they do. [/quote]
But why even have it out there in the first place?

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[fallenangel]

[quote]Because alot of other countries see it as a more "loving" act. Not just for fun. Although thta doen't mean everyone thinks like that.[/quote]

Not necessarily. Tons of other countries have topless pictures in the newspaper. It's not loving, it's just selling papers with boobs. Softcore porn on general television. It's not celebrating a loving act, it's wanking material that isn't seen as taboo.

That's not to say they [i]don't[/i] treat it as such, but the way it's portrayed isn't much different than it is in the states only with fewer restrictions.

My issue with this is that sure, you can be tired of hearing sex songs on the radio, but that doesn't make it a problem that [i]needs[/i] to be changed. You can prefer they have songs about something else, but there's no justifiable reason other than personal preference. And when it comes to mainstream rap, the alternatives aren't so great. It's either sex, money, or violence. If they stopped playing sex songs, they'd play more that were about shooting your mother.

[quote]But why even have it out there in the first place?[/quote]

You mean why mention it at all? Like don't outright say "don't do it", just ignore the subject entirely? Because it's [b]knowledge[/b] that will get more kids to be safe. The huge flaw in sex ed programs is that they aren't realistic. You can preach abstinence all you want, but then what happens to the portion of teens that will undoubtedly hump like bunnies? If you go so far as to not put the subject out there at all, they're going to learn about it some other way, and the problem is only increased. Because then they're curious and have no knowledge of the consequences or safety practices.

Taking the sex out of music won't change it. If anything, the reason kids are drawn to such songs is because they're [i]already[/i] interested in the subject, it's not the song that "corrupts" them.
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[Koikaji_Saru_the_Wierd_O]

[quote]that doesn't make it a problem that needs to be changed.[/quote]
Once again: I only asked a simple question. Never said it had to be changed. Just asked if you were tired of it.

[quote]You mean why mention it at all?[/quote]
Why even have it in music, as you said, they teach it. ("So whats the point of buying it on a CD if you can get it for free at school?" is what Im reading)

[quote]it's not the song that "corrupts" them. [/quote]
I don't remember saying that.

[quote]the reason kids are drawn to such songs is because they're already interested in the subject[/quote]

What gets them "interesed"?



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[fallenangel]

[quote]Why even have it in music, as you said, they teach it. ("So whats the point of buying it on a CD if you can get it for free at school?" is what Im reading)[/quote]

:huh: Because it's a perfectly acceptable subject! Why have murder in songs? We don't want people going out and killing people, afterall. Better let others teach kids that killing is wrong and not talk about it in music, right? No rape, either. Janie's Got a Gun (Aerosmith) is totally inappropriate. Violence is out, poverty is out, racism is out, greed is out... I'm not saying you can or should learn about sex from a song. I'm saying that sex in songs is not the problem and that there's nothing wrong with it BECAUSE if education did its job properly, THAT is what will keep kids safe. Not removing the sex from the music.

[quote][quote]it's not the song that "corrupts" them.[/quote]

I don't remember saying that. [/quote]

Again, your topic, not everything is in response to you. Others have put anti-sex comments too. Some along the lines of "sex songs teach kids to have sex!!!!!11111one"

[quote]What gets them "interesed"? [/quote]

Hormones! It's natural. Life in general. Look around, not at music, but at everything. Do you honestly think a kid could go through life [i]without[/i] discovering and being curious about sex? It's on mid day television commercials. It's on the news. It's in movies. It's in daily conversation. Even taking the media out of it entirely, all that has to happen is ONE curious kid who asks the question and gets a straight answer from his parents and comes to school and relays it. The instant kids are old enough to understand what it is and have increased hormone levels, they're going to be curious. People read books because they're curious about things they don't know much about. A lot of younger people listen to sex songs for the same reason.

If a kid had no interest, the song would be boring to them. I have no interest in this current bitchy trend of "no one understands me, my life sucks so much" crap, so the songs bore me. I don't hear them and become depressed from it. Kids who DO relate to that teen angst garbage are the ones who like the songs. It's the same with sex.
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[Barney--TheAnti-Christ]

It bugs me how the stores don't check ID for that kind of thing. A five year old go walk in and buy a porn video and all they would say is ," are you interested in buying ~insert something here~ , buy one, and get a free twinkie!" the poor child would buy it! They want the twinkie! .... okay.

[fallenangel]

I'm sure you were trying to make a point with the extreme example, but you also have to think in terms of the store. Excluding the fact a lot of them are staffed by young music fans who also disagree with the stickers, it's a hassle in general to check ID. If a 14-year-old kid comes into a store in the mall and tries to by an Eminem CD and gets carded, right there they've probably lost a sale. At least at their store. If not, the kid has to go find a parent, drag them back, and then purchase the album. Then you're dealing with an annoyed parent.

The easiest solution is for them to just assume the kid is old enough.

If a kid wants an album, he's going to get it one way or another. Blaming the store isn't going to keep it from them.
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