Van Halen

MedalMask · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:

Yes, Van Halen, they rock all the way! They're should be some fans around here, I'm a big fan of Van Halen. Their songs are all awsome Cool

Lemme see if there are more worshipers of Van Halen around here.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject:

Wear my logo necklace from '80 every day.

Van Hagar and Gary Cherone can lick my ass, though. No Dave, no good music.
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MedalMask · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject:

curses to dave, I don't like him, hagar is to good one Cool

But it's who you worship Razz

I have nothing against that.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

Please don't tell me you just said Van Hagar is better than the Dave years.

Van Hagar is watered down, piddly crap. Dave himself puts it best.

"Classic Van Halen made you want to drink, dance and fuck. Current Van Halen encourages us to drink milk, drive a Nissan and have a relationship." - DLR

The songs are boring. Dave would shoot himself before peforming a song as cheesy as "When It's Love". They have a couple tunes that are tolerable, but they're nothing special. "Finish What Ya Started" has a good groove, but it's the same as all the other songs with the same little guitar melody. "Right Now" is good, but the video is better, which is sad. Without the video that was pretty clever and entertaining, it's just another song with a piano solo.

Dave was (and still is) a showman, he's got a unique voice and unique stage presence that Sammy doesn't even come close to. He's one of the best frontmen of all time [i]because[/i] he thinks he's a god, and that ego and confidence makes his performance what it is (the gymnast in him doesn't hurt). The songs alone from classic Van Halen are above and beyond anything Van Hagar made (not even gonna mention Gary, 'cause I think everyone can agree that sucked beyond words). Eddie's riffs are harder, the music is more lively, and the lyrics are better.

EDIT: Pretty picture. :wub:
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MedalMask · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject:

yeah, pretty pretty picture, but I was raised with more hagar songs from van halen "Dreams" To me is the greatest song I ever heard from them, "humans being" was second in my book. Songs with dave were good. I don't hate him, I shouldn't have said I don't liek him, he's ok, but to me not good enough. I guess my taste is rotton :wacko:
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject:

Ack. The madness. :wacko:

Dave will always be "good enough". He's still "good enough". He split his head open with the metal rod on the last tour, and still finished the song with blood running down his head before going to the hospital, where they found out he had pneumonia and hadn't made a big deal about it so they wouldn't cancel tour dates.

Sammy could barely make it through a single performance on the reunion without losing it.

Van Halen is legendary. Van Hagar is tolerable.

"Dreams" is the perfect example of Van Hagar being cookies and milk, while Van Halen is rock n' roll. Van Hagar sings about being in squishy love (which is much more Sammy's style), and Dave sings "Feel Your Love"...which is squishy in a whole different way. Cool

Sammy wants a girlfriend, Dave wants to bone the teacher. That's the whole difference. Laughing

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MedalMask · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:

ah, I accept them in my different ways. But "Dreams" Is still a good song, not like I'm gonna be a good widdle girl in a cute pink dress and drink milk (well I do for strong bones and teeth!1!!1!!!!1!) I'll just stay wearing simple t-shirts and gargo pants with the wallet chain by my side and dink pop, and one day to try a beer! I just like their music anyways, hagar or dave.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject:

But it makes me weep to see someone say Sammy is better than Dave. Sad

Little Sammy, with the baggy pants and ugly hair.
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MedalMask · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject:

go ahead, call me a disgrace...but I keep my dignaty! Razz

Or however you spell it. :wacko:
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Beatlechick90 · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:

I have to start listening to more VH. The only song I know really well is Ice Cream Man, and that is because my dad used to sing it to me when I was little.

Yes, that's right. Besides that, I had a normal upbringing, though.
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

The fact that Van Halen seemed to frequently switch frontmen always confused me more. Its just more noticable that a frontman has left the band than lets say a drummer. Eddie Van Halen was and still is the reason why I'm a Van Halen fan.

Eddie is one of the most talented guitarists around. Sure he's kind of gone to s**t now but back in the day he could play like no one's business. Eruption, while not having any lyrics, is one of my favorite songs by them. The raw emotion in that guitar playing is breathtaking and worth noting.

Hagar was allright. David Lee Roth impressed me more in terms of stage performance. Whoever was with them last doesn't count because he just took the band to a new low.
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fallenangel · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:

[quote]The only song I know really well is Ice Cream Man, and that is because my dad used to sing it to me when I was little.[/quote]

Laughing

Now that is hilarious. He's got all flavors and push ups too... But surely he means the actual frozen treat. Yes.

Anything from Van Halen self titled debut and 1984 is gold. Runnin' With The Devil, Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love, Jamie's Cryin', Panama, Hot For Teacher... :wub:

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MedalMask · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:

oh yeah, hot for the teacher was an awsome song, the music video was bitchen' Razz

ok, maybe not bitchen, but yeah.
And erouption was cool, eddies guitar line.....made me float. Ha, Van Halen rules the world. Cool

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fallenangel · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject:

Hot For Teach is their best video, when you're including music in it. Visually, Right Now was their best as far as being a unique video. But Hot For Teacher was a great concept (awwww, look at the little Davie...) combined with a great song. Plus there was eye candy for everyone. Stripping teachers and dancing VH boys. Although Dave was the only one who could remotely dance.

God awful orange suits...
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

I watched like a few Van Halen videos the other day. I have to say that Sammy Hagar just doesn't give the same video impact as David Lee Roth. But then again, I'm like comparing Panama to Humans Being (which I'm very suspicious of that being just for the Twister soundtrack.) Roth is exciting to watch and you know he's having fun. Hagar is like trying hard in his videos and its too dramatic for my taste.
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fallenangel · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject:

Sammy has one move. The kick. Other than that, he's just...there. Oh, and squatting down a bit, and moving the mic stand back and forth.

Dave's a circus. Split kicks and spins and flips and that "I'm a god" ego. :wub:
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MedalMask · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject:

He dances good and makes you move

That's nice, but I;m still going sammy's way in singing, dave's way in dancing and attitude. It all just crazy. :wacko:
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fallenangel · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

Sammy does not sing better than Dave. Sad

Dave has as signature voice and some major chops. His screams (like in Runnin' With The Devil) are awesome, and he's got this bluesy, jazz tone to his voice. Especially if you hear his solo record from awhile ago, Diamond Dave, where he does sing some blues/jazz songs.

Sammy is a typical rock frontman. He's got decent talent, but nothing that makes his singing stand out from anyone else. It's like comparing a member of a boyband to Steve Tyler. They both have the skill, but you know it's Steve right away. No one can tell those pussy boys apart.
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MedalMask · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject:

ha, my mom don't like dave (don;t be hunting her down Razz

) She doesn't like runnin' with the devil because of dave screeming. But to me, dave doesn't seem to have a better singing voice than sammy. They're both good, but I just stand my ground saying that sammy is better than dave in singing, my opinion. I mean the songs that dave sang were good. But I just think that sammy is better at singing than dave. In some ways. It's not like I'm sayign that dave sucks at singing, I guess I'm used to more hagar songs. Oh the madness. :wacko:
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fallenangel · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject:

But [i]why[/i] is he better. If you [i]like[/i] Sammy better, fine, but why is he [i]technically[/i] a better singer than Dave?
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