Most Influential Games Of All Time

Elbreth · Still very bored Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 334

Wtf?

Your "mind games" might work on the other 12 year olds, but please, when you're talking to the big boys, try to make a little more sense, ok?

Sephir0th666777 · Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:04 am Post subject:

sadly enough, Pokemon <_<

Although it bacame such a huge game, it allowed for RPGs to become much more mainstream.

As much as it kills me to say it, pokemon is the reason that half of the mediocre-but-fun RPGs come to america
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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

...Actually, I don't know what you're saying that like it's a bad thing. Pokemon was an ingenious game, that's why it sold so well. And yes, it brought a lot more japanese games for the GB over. Pokemon is still a pretty damn fun game, you know.

[quote]Then FFX-2 came along using an airship to travel to each area from the very start, be it KH or FF that influenced this concept.[/quote]

...Dude, that was because in FFX, all the places were already discovered. It wouldn't make sense to have to revisit all the places to put them on your map again just because it's a new game - Yuna's already been to all those places; she doesn't need to find them again.

And FFX-2 doesn't even [i]have[/i] an airship, per se. It's only a fancy way to make a list - in the end, all it really is is a list for you to select where you want to go. They completely removed the concept of using an actual airship, like in the previous FF (sans X) games.

[quote]while sometimes a good idea can change into a bad idea over time, for example using an airship in every single Final Fantasy since the beginning of the series[/quote]

...How was having an airship a bad thing? You used to be able to explore the world, find hidden places, sidequests, etc. from being able to manually control the airship. Not only that, but tonnes and tonnes of people have complained about FFX/-2's not having the same airship system.

[quote]Final Fantasy XI uses a battle system similar to Kingdom Hearts, being able to control the way you move and fight in battle and also not having to be sucked into a battle screen, another game would include Final Fantasy: CC it uses a system almost identical to KH[/quote]

That's because those are multiplayer RPGs, for the most part. You can't have a multiplayer role playing game with a turnbased battle system because, for one, it limits the number of people who can play. The battles would take an excrutiatingly long time to complete if you have to cycle through turns, and people will get bored by then.

That's why the battles are [i]real time[/i], so SE doesn't lose any money because people hate the battle system. Real time battles are nothing new, and have been used for a long time before KH.

[quote]The last thing I have to mention is the sound that this game provided us with, WOW! [/quote]

Actually, the soundtracks that SE have produced have generally gone downhill, especially since Nobuo Uematsu doesn't compose them anymore (he's known for pretty much all the FFs prior to FFX). If you want amazing soundtracks, try companies like NipponIchi (composer: Tenpei Sato; games include Disgaia, Phantom Brave, La Pucelle, etc.) or the game Xenosaga I: Der Wille zur Macht (London Philharmonic Orchestra performed a large number of the scores from this game). Also, SE is actually notorious for hiring bad voice actors. Yuna is a prime example, along with Tidus (that scene in FFX with the laughter, anyone?) It's not often that SE has [i]good[/i] voice actors for a game.

Elbreth, you might be right in your opinion that KH is hardly influential, but you should try to make a substantual arguement, rather than saying, "oh, your argument is complete bullshit!" =/ It doesn't work very well like that.
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Stratadrake · Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject:

Sometimes it's easier to list [i]elements[/i] that proved successful/influential over time, like Super Mario RPG's addition of "action commands" to an otherwise stat- and turn-based battle system.

Pokmon: [i]Incredibly[/i] kid-friendly RPG, all about the collecting and trading.

Donkey Kong Country: Successful use of CGI (pre-rendered) sprites and graphics.

Mortal Kombat: Digitized sprites of real-life actors. Not to mention all that gore spurring the development of a ratings board (ESRB, anyone?)
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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

[quote="Stratadrake (Strata)"] Pokmon: [i]Incredibly[/i] kid-friendly RPG, all about the collecting and trading. [/quote]
And the usage of your own cute pets to beat on your friend's cute pets. Wink

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Veilius · Byte me Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 256

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Ryoku · Very bored Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 139

I would have to say Donkey Kong, for the arcade! It gave videogames a whole new look! =D

Elbreth · Still very bored Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 334

[quote="Veilius ()"]I wish I knew more about Kingdom Hearts; I can't say that much about it. But I think its concept, the whole crossover thing, is very original, innovative, and interesting. I mean, Disney and Final Fantasy? Talk about mood opposites.

At the moment it's too new to be influential, but five years from now, maybe it will be.[/quote]
Cross-over games have been made many times before and they're not mood-opposites by any means.

Unsuspecting hero defeats evil, lives a happy life
vs
Unsuspecting hero defeats evil, lives a happy life

That looks pretty much the same to me.

Kingdom Hearts is a great game, [b]BUT IT IS [u]NOT[/u] INNOVATIVE.[/b]

Inu-chan_rox_mah_sox · Has No Life Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 452

Man, I'm thirteen and I still like Poke'mon. XD I think I have every game of it they ever made. Just gotta get Gale of Darkness, and I'm good to go! ^^

Anyways, these are the games I thought were influential. If not upon the world, upon myself.

Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life: Taught that farming can be fun. ^^

Tales of Symphonia: Awesome graphics, storyline, and highly addictive. Plus, the fact that it took me forever to get past the first seal. @_@ I'm so stupid...

Tetris: My mom and I used to play this on our Super Nintendo sometimes. XD

Final Fantasy: They will make these things till the end of time. @_@

Poke'mon: This game was just cool. It taught me to be strategic, and to think twice before attacking.

Pacman: Wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka

VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

Hmmm, I know most of you people will disagree with me, but Halo 2 is up there as one of the most influential of our generation. Its a national phenominon. On its opening day, it sold out more than any major movie blockbuster. Ever. It has revolutionized online play and is now the standard for FPS games, in both play and graphics. People keep saying there will be a Halo killer, but there hasn't been. No one can come close. The only thing that could kill Halo was Halo 2. And the only thing that will outdo that is Halo 3.
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Stratadrake · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject:

Influence is not the same thing as innovation, and last I checked, the theme for this topic is the most [b]influential[/b], not necessarily the most [i]innovative[/i].

Kingdom Hearts seems to be fairly influential, that is in regards to its voice acting.
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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

Voice acting? I dunno, voice acting has been used since the PSX days. :x Not just small things like battle attacks or something like that, but full blown dialogue after dialogue after dialogue of it. :x
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Veilius · Byte me Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 256

VR_Jay · Very Oldbie Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725

You cannot look at me with a straight fac and tell me Halo has not been influencial on our culture. [i]Out sold movie record openings.[/i] No game in history has [b]ever [/b]done that.
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LunaticCrow · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject:

Final Fantasy

Where would we be without sh*tty knockoffs of already sh*tty games? I can say that there would probably less spiky haired heros, and LESS SALES.

Banghead

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slavetotheWALL · Forum Stalker Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1321

Katamari Democracy hands down ^_^

LunaticCrow · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject:

How is that influential? :huh: It hasnt inspired any other games, Personally, I don't think many people would be willing to take a risk like making a Katamari knockoff.
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slavetotheWALL · Forum Stalker Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 1321

because the music you know Smile

LunaticCrow · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject:

I really wouldnt consider it influential just beacause it's soundtrack is good. Sonic R had vocal tracks which were considered cool during it's time, but it didnt inspire or influence anything..heck, after that, games seldom use vocal tracks in every level.

Then again I doubt anybody could recreate the cheesy awesomeness of those songs. :rolleyes:

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