Punk

Defender_of_Darkness · Very bored Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 125

Who do you like in the punk rock music??????I personally like greenday and Blink 182.

BrainDead · Forum contributor Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 740

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gosh i'd same Bright Eyes, Straylight Run, Fall Out Boy, etc

fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject:

Cheesy punk pop. Yay.

Sex Pistols, Ramones, New York Dolls, The Clash, Siouxsie and the banshees, GenX, to name a few people should have heard of.
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MedalMask · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject:

I don't like punk much at all. Just another chessy genre, I did get excited about it for a while, but it's mostly chessy and stupid.
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BrainDead · Forum contributor Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 740

the genre "punk" is just a kind of music people assume is for "goth" people either that or a gothyish mix of popand rock

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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject:

[quote]I don't like punk much at all. Just another chessy genre, I did get excited about it for a while, but it's mostly chessy and stupid.[/quote]

Pop punk is.

70s punk is damn cool. New York Dolls. :wub:
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

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I don't like punk much at all. Just another chessy genre, I did get excited about it for a while, but it's mostly chessy and stupid.

Pop punk is.

70s punk is damn cool. New York Dolls.[/quote]

70s punk is cool because people back then had reasons to rebel and piss off higher authorities. Then it became the cool thing to do and some bands sold out which defeats the purpose of going against the system. Nowadays its a quick buck for the record industries to make off of with Greenday and Blink 182.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:

Teenagers just love to rebel.

Even if pop punk completely defies any and all logic. Rebelling...against...the norm/standard/average/expectations/media/whatever.... but doing so with mass produced .... prepackaged ..... meaningless radio-friendly garbage ..... that is sold by the millions ...... due to the very thing they're "rebelling" against.....

My head hurts. :wacko:
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

I remember there was this one band...they were like number 90-something on the 100 Greatest Metal Bands. They were one of the only punk bands who got famous but didn't sell out at all. Thats what punk is all about. Conveying a message against something that isn't right or is very flawed and not selling that message for any amount of money.

Without that, punk is meaningless whining and bitching.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject:

I [i]think[/i] you mean Fugazi? Maybe? In 100 greatest artists of hard rock, they talked about them turning down all major label offers and keeping prices low. A bit more hardcore than punk, but the same principles. Rejecting mainstream conformity, as 70s punk rejected empty, radio-friendly garbage.
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

Yeah, thats the band. Smile

I just think in terms of staying true to what they stood for, they really accomplished that. If you sell your message then you defeat the purpose of punk and what it used to stand for.

Now its just a trend. I think it went with the Sex Pistols didn't it?
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject:

Punk all died at once. And thank god it did. 'Cause once it's popular and being promoted by labels, it's not punk anymore. Plus, even while these bands were trying to get this message across, the same sheep were following them and dressing up like the Ramones or Johnny Rotten, which completely defeats the point.

So when the scene died, the music went with it. Which makes sense, because a "punk" band with a 10 year career and 4 platinum albums, millions of fans, and world tours is no more punk than Britney Spears. Green Day, I'm looking in your direction...

It would get old anyway. Not much room for progression.

(not that the artists themselves didn't progress, of course, with new projects)
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the_CrEePiE · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:

Punk hasn't quite died yet in Montana. Kinda slow in the head here.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:09 am Post subject:

The original genre has. A new name should have been created as of 1980 to get rid of all the bands over the next 25 years being "punk" (which was actually an insult at the time).
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L7 · Very bored Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 210

[quote="fallenangel (fallen)"] Cheesy punk pop. Yay.

Sex Pistols, Ramones, New York Dolls, The Clash, Siouxsie and the banshees, GenX, to name a few people should have heard of. [/quote]
Ah yay someone informed them in a short sentence. :D

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70's punk is cool...its just not my style but I respect it. New "punk" isn't punk. Its angst teenage music that holds out "er" in every single one of their songs. [ex. "heartbreakeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" - Simple Plan] The word punk nowadays now has the meaning "not preppy" or someone who wears converse or skater shoes.

Well at least it is here... <_<

Defender_of_Darkness · Very bored Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 125

Punk Hasnt died In Arkansas Yet either, and Yes im a teen right now, Im going into that Punk/Rock era. and punk inst essumed for goth people. the first thing that comes to mind is tennagers, like so. Im not much into the Old Punk, although I do like Classic rock, but lets not go there right now. Just post a few of you favorite Punk from this era bands:D

eclipsedmoongoddess482 · Elder In Training Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 3703

[quote]Punk Hasnt died In Arkansas Yet either, and Yes im a teen right now, Im going into that Punk/Rock era. and punk inst essumed for goth people. the first thing that comes to mind is tennagers, like so. Im not much into the Old Punk, although I do like Classic rock, but lets not go there right now. Just post a few of you favorite Punk from this era bands:D [/quote]

And thus we have one of the many reasons why "punk" is such a sucess in the record indurstry. Rolling eyes

Once kids hit puberty they believe they have rebel against everything that seems to fall under normality but what they don't realize is that everyone else is rebelling against the same things too. So what they thought was being original and idealistic is really just the norm for teens across America.

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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject:

[quote] Punk Hasnt died In Arkansas Yet either,[/quote]

Yes it has. Open a book. Preferably Johnny Rotten's book, available at bookstores across the nation.

[quote]The word punk nowadays now has the meaning "not preppy" or someone who wears converse or skater shoes.[/quote]

And that's why it's so sad! I could care less what Good Charlotte or Green Day do, I don't have to listen to them. It's the fact that 70s punk, especially in London and NYC, was such a cool scene with so many interesting people and ideas, that for all that to be forgotten and replaced with pretty boys singing radio hits is horrible.

It's not a matter of elitist "well, this isn't [i]real[/i] punk *nose in air*", it's that something that [i]should[/i] be looked at as an interesting movement with [i]real[/i] creative people is bastardized into what's on MTV. Punk isn't just a music style, it's an [i]idea[/i], and a very time-specific one at that. Punk died in the 70s. PERIOD. You can copy the style and theory all you want, saying "I want to play fast, hard music 'cause I don't like pop songs!" is all well and good, go for it, but that's not punk.

All the "punk" bands around today are just influenced, at best. There is no punk scene or punk bands. All the current pop punk bands don't even [i]sound[/i] like punk, so I don't get it. They're entirely pop! Lazy pop! All pop punk means is "I'm too lazy to learn how to play my instrument, so I'm going play 3 chords and call it punk, 'cause punk guys didn't know how to play either".

Sick. Sick sick sick. Come up with a new name for the shitty little no-talent kids.
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Defender_of_Darkness · Very bored Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 125

Punk is Still very much Alive matter is if you want it to or not.

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:

God you're a moron. You have no idea what punk is. Go do some research and grow up, then we'll talk. You're a waste of time.
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