Square Enix's Games

[KeheiZero]

Yeah, they do tend to have plot's with plenty of twists and turns, but I reckon that the Metal Gear series has more unpredictable and involving plots.
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[Kes]

Another major pointer of Squaresoft/Squarenix is the graphics. The movie parts has to be prob some of the best graphics around, it especially exploded with the graphics with Final Fantasy 8, the first to have the new style.
I like their games also prob coz of the creativity. Unique looks on the characters, good fantasy monsters, some of the summonings.......etc......... It's like tons of new summons have come and gone with different appearences but wuts kool is how some summons r in every final fantasy(Since the one they started) but change their look in every one.
And true they do do good plots. They do good variety I think. Like in Final Fantasy, some give a past like image e.g. final fantasy 9 and some give futuristic look e.g. final fantasy 8 and 10. In these time plots, they give the characters different personalities and whatever.
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[Elbreth]

I wouldn't say the graphics are a major thing... the FMV sequences are always top of the line, the best of the absolute best, but that's just the icing on a very nice cake for me.

Yes they have involving plots, its the whole point of the games. And that's why I love them.

What, though, does Kingdom Hearts leave un-explained? I can't think of anything that didn't tie up very much? (Or that will not be expanded on in the future release?)

I don't know if Final Fantasy X has too a futuristic feel for me... places like Zanarkard obviously do, and the Al Bhed areas, but to me it has much more of an eastern feel... very Asian and Oriental in places.

[Kes]

For Kingdom Hearts I haven't finished the first and Kingdom Hearts 2 aint been released yet.
True, graphics ain't everything but it helps a lil.
Zanarkard does show a futuristic part mostly but for the game it is its past. I think wuts part future about the rest of it is, it shows that maybe the earth could back fire. I think it shows how easy technology can get wiped out and ppl resort to an older style of living but have some newer things. But true it doesn't totally look futuristic but it's like it's talking about more future like than modern.
Soz if that made no sense, trying to find the words, lol.
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[Elbreth]

I sort of understood what you were trying to say.

Sort of.

[Fayore]

Actually, any Final Fantasy made prior to the advent of the PS2 is Squaresoft. Square-Enix happened after that.

After the merger, I think the quality in their games have been declining somewhat, because they keep trying out new things [which suck most of the time, imo] and they keep trying to combine elements from their FFs and the DQ/DW stuff. I don't think that combination works very well, because what set those two RPG series apart were their differences.

Of course the graphics are getting better, but when we're talking about something based on technology, of course it'll get better. It can't get any worse, at any rate.
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[Kes]

Glad u sorta understand, lol. Find it hard to put into words.
True, graphics cant get worse.
Personally I think since they have become SquareEnix, the games havent been as good. Well the final fantasy series anyway. SquareEnix's first final fantasy was 10.2, wasn't as good as the first and 11 isn't that impressive. BUT from wut I have seen of 12 it might be picking up.
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[Elbreth]

I've not been happy with much that the Square-Enix merger has created. They take tried and tested forumulas and mess with them.

I know some people want progression, but these people shouldn't play JRPGs.

And [i]actually[/i] the games made between 1992 and 2003 are Squaresoft, any game after is Square-Enix and any game before is Square.

[Fayore]

Just Square, huh? Never heard of that, but I'll take your word for it. I don't know much about the really old stuff, anyway.

I want to see them make a sprite game. [s]*avid lover of sprites*[/s] Just curious to see if they can make their storylines and system config as good as the older games... It seems like they're paying too much attention to graphics and eye candy than actual development of other elements.
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[Fayore]

Squaresoft. That was Squaresoft. Legend of the Seven Stars isn't old enough to be prior-1992. It's 1996. You can tell, because that's around when the games started having [i]really[/i] good graphics.

Trust me - anything older than 1992 - not pretty. I don't even know if the SNES was made before/around that date or not.
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[Elbreth]

[quote="Fayore (鵺)"]Squaresoft. That was Squaresoft. Legend of the Seven Stars isn't old enough to be prior-1992. It's 1996. You can tell, because that's around when the games started having [i]really[/i] good graphics.

Trust me - anything older than 1992 - not pretty. I don't even know if the SNES was made before/around that date or not.[/quote]
SNES was released in Japan Q4 1990 and in America Q2 1991.



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[Defender_of_Darkness]

If you have thought about it, Square-enix and Square -Soft and Square, Are the same company, They just changed there name.

[KeheiZero]

Just a name change? I guess the merger between Square and Enix didn't amount to much in your eyes then.
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[Fayore]

[quote="KlonoaWahoo (Samantha McCann)"] Square enix has definetly reached a decline, I mean, FFXI? who were they kidding with that piece of greasy poop. Dont get me started on how much Ive come to despise Final Fantasy after X, its not pretty. Square[soft] definetly made a mistake merging with the king of cliches, Enix. Square[soft] produced wonderful, innovative, and needless to say, wonderful games that were truly one of a kind..

And what do we have to thank Enix for? Star Ocean. Its now appropriate to laugh uproariously. [/quote]
Hey, man. I liked my DQ games. Don't go messin' with childhoods here. And actually, Star Ocean was developed by Tri-Ace. The most Enix did was produce the game, although I can't remember if they even did that or not.

Squaresoft made good games. But they weren't the best of the best, if you ask me. Then again, I'm not limited to games that have been licensed, translated and localized, unlike some of you here. A lot of video game companies don't even bother trying to get their games localized outside of Japan because they get enough money through sales in Japan, so they don't need to be interested in a market in America. (That, and the whole biased "it's [b]America[/b]" thing...)
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[Elbreth]

Okay then... what games from Japan are better, or even comparable to Final Fantasy VII?

[Elbreth]

[quote="KlonoaWahoo (Samantha McCann)"] Anything is better than FFVII. [/quote]
Any credibility you could ever have in any discussion has just been thrown out the window forever.

[Elbreth]

The character development, plot and pacing was perfect.

Not great. Perfect.

[Elbreth]

[quote="KlonoaWahoo (Samantha McCann)"] Quite the fanboy, arent we?

There is no such thing as a perfect game, every gamer knows that. And, Even if there was, FFVII, all Final Fantasies for that matter, were greatly flawed. [/quote]
In really quite insignificant ways.

Of course there was the odd typing error, it could stand to look better now... things like that... but it's by far and away my favourite game of all time. It became a bench-mark of quality for me.

[Fayore]

[quote="Elbreth (Steven)"] Okay then... what games from Japan are better, or even comparable to Final Fantasy VII? [/quote]
That all depends on the gamer's taste, you know. That's why there's no such thing as a universally "good" game. That's why it's not really worth telling you what games are "comparable" to FF7 merely because I'll probably like some other game more than FF7 while you prefer FF7 yourself. :P

Since I prefer SRPGs over the typical RPG, I rather like Tales of Phantasia (the PSX version), Star Ocean 1, as well as the Summon Night series (which I wish it was localized in America, 'cause it's extremely popular in Japan - I'm sure lots of people in America would like it, especially considering the popularity of Disgaea and Phantom Brave). Uhm, what else... There's also the visual novel games which are pretty much non-existant on this side of the Pacific, like Kanon and AIR. I love visual novels because the entire game is focused on storyline and characterization. Then there's Angel's Feather, which balances between SRPG and visual novel. Bahamut Lagoon is pretty nice, too. Not awesome, but nice to fool around with. And the Princess Maker series... I swear I've spent more hours trying to get all the endings on that crazy addictive game than any of the FFs altogether! Angelique and the HaruToki series are nice for wasting time, too.

But yes. Summon Night is a really nice series. And I still think the PSX version of ToP is better than FF7, but, again, it all depends on the gamer's tastes.
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