Omg People Are Gay

[slavetotheWALL]

I was just watching CNN yesterday and they were talking about how videogames corrupt childrens minds and theres no way to protect them (I love how they never bring up how the parents dont pay a damn worth attention to the rating system a.k.a ESRB) and so now there taking Grand theft Auto San Andreas off the market :angry:

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[NintendoArielle]

GTA isn't off the market, it's just that the versions marked "M" were taken off the shelves to be replaced with "AO."

But M means 17+ and AO means 18+...so what's the big difference?!

[slavetotheWALL]

[quote]Due to the complaints Rockstar games has been getting and the lawsuits Rockstar has thus decided it would be best just to take the game off the market says one manager of GTA series "It was almost inevitable I knew the game was graphic that and america seems to be in a lawsuit happy state so sadly instead of putting our company in jeopardy we've decided to strip them  off the shelves by hopefully sometime in October there will be no more of the new san andreas but the prequels will still be available" [/quote]

Atleast thats what I read and heard on tv

[NintendoArielle]

[quote="slavetotheWALL (Pinkfloydkingdom"][quote]Due to the complaints Rockstar games has been getting and the lawsuits Rockstar has thus decided it would be best just to take the game off the market says one manager of GTA series "It was almost inevitable I knew the game was graphic that and america seems to be in a lawsuit happy state so sadly instead of putting our company in jeopardy we've decided to strip them off the shelves by hopefully sometime in October there will be no more of the new san andreas but the prequels will still be available" [/quote]

Atleast thats what I read and heard on tv[/quote]
Really? Well, then this is the fault of Jack Thompson. He's tried to ban GTA, Killer 7 and The Sims 2. Also, he's going after Bully, so no one can pre-order it.

I emailed him today, and I wonder what his response will be.

Take a look at this: http://vgcats.com/jack.php

That is how he replies to any and all gamers, even if they're polite, kind and understanding, he automatically acts rude to them and acts like a child. He doesn't even reply in decent grammar! It's surprising that he acts like that. What a moron.

[Fayore]

If you paid attention, you'll notice that that isn't actually a part of VGCats. I think I'd know, I read the friggen comic, after all.
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[UltimaMewtwo]

GTA: SA was taken off only to get rid of the Black Market bought, controversial "Hot coffee" mod where you did a mini game of having sex with your first girlfriend, forgot her name, in full blown nudity, scratch that being one mini game, there were a few. Rockstar would have gotten slapped with the AO if they hadn't have taken it off the shelves to completely get rid of that have it not be controversial, but I can't say the same for the people who bought GTA: SA before it was taken off. Just so you know what really went on. I have my sources to find this information.
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[UltimaMewtwo]

Yes it did. Anal and v-area f-ing and a blow job all in full blown nudity. Don't you think that would be AO?! It was frickin pretty much porn! With that SA would be rated AO!
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[Fayore]

o_o "omg people are gay"?

You just realized that now? I mean, since people've been gay since before Christianity an' all... You're pretty observant, aren't you?
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[Stratadrake]

[quote]it's just that the versions marked "M" were taken off the shelves to be replaced with "AO."[/quote]
All the GTA3 and later games are rated 'M'. It's San Andreas that's getting the AO.

the difference between M and AO? It's like the difference between R and NC-17. A person younger than 17 can still legally get into an R rated movie (because R means "under 17 requires parent/guardian"), whereas NC-17 means "no one under 17, period" and they wouldn't (legally) be able to see it.
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[Mountain_Dewroo]

Perhaps i might have not go into those dirty pics and fan fics, Huh? I'm a Bad Bad boy.

[NintendoArielle]

I saw the Hot Coffee mod a few days ago, and CJ was completely clothed. The girl, however, was 100% naked.

The only disturbing part was when she made that creepy face when the "Excitement" meter was going up on the top right corner of the screen.

However, it was not brutal sex, and certainly not porn-like. Actually, it was kind of humorous.

[C1umzieOn3]

Personally, no, I don't think they corrupt children's minds. You see just about as much violence on T.V. and in the movies. Possibly worse. A combination of all of these, maybe, but not just one. It's the parents responsibilty to make sure their child knows the difference between reality and fantasy. Not the game developers, raters, etc.

Though I must admit, I do get his awful joy when I kill people. (on the game of course)

[Sephir0th666777]

The way I see it, is that if your kids have acces to getting the "nude scene patch code thing" off of the internet, than the have acces to FAR worse.

It's saying "I'm fine with my kid playing a game where you kill cops and hookers, but I don't want them seeing nudity"
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[i]The following is an official document I wrote for a debate class. Yes, it is lengthy, but my professor must have seen some good in it, as he awarded me with an "A" (don't ask me why). [/i]

[b]Warning: Mature Content[/b]

Imagine for one moment that you are walking along a sunlit path. Ahead of you, a gap in the trees reveals a steep hill, flowing with amber colored blades of long grass. Your heavy booted footfalls are muffled by the soft dirt and moss underfoot, and this sound turns to a gentle swish as your olive drab pants come into contact with the grass. As you top the crest of the hill, the radio in your right ear suddenly crackles to life: Four targets. Moving along west ridge. Cover me. Your response is equally concise; an acknowledged and ready. Raising your rifle, you pause for a moment to level the scope, your bead drawn.

Giving the ok, you see two similarly clad figures move quickly out from the surrounding woods, guns leveled and ready. As the pop of gun fire is heard, you squeeze off three quick bursts, not incapacitate, but simply meant to keep the enemys heads down. With the targets effectively pinned, your brothers in arms flank the position, letting off round after round of controlled fire. One of the hostiles attempts to throw a grenade, but is gunned down before the fragmentation has left his hands. A hasty cover is ordered and, moments later, the air is filled with dirt, rocks, lingering echo of the blast, as well as fragments of the unlucky individual caught in the explosion, his dying screams mixed with the reverberations of the detonation.

As the dust clears, your two squad members clean up the remains of the enemy unit. One tries to run, but you pick him off in mid stride, blood splattering across his military issue jacket. Then, trotting down the hill to join your group, you congratulate each other over a job well done, still laughing and reminiscing about some of the better aspects of the match as you all return to the game loading screen and set up your next engagement.

This is how I, as well as countless others across the world, spend their Saturday afternoons. Sitting down, teaming up, and plugging in for some good old action and a healthy dose of excitement. Far from the images of lone people sitting in their darkened basements, videogames bring friends together, help form bonds, and can provide hours of fun for all involved. But there are many who see video games as a threat to family values and even our way of life. There are even those who wish restrictions and even the banning of some games and manufacturers. But should video games, one of the fastest growing and most popular forms of media on the market today, be banned?

Violence is the key issue when it comes to weather or not a game should be be on the market. In the mid seventies when games were first released for mass market, technology was limited to say the least. Where as people now play across the internet in worlds that look real enough to touch, back then, you had a green triangle that shot blue squares at the red squares. The ability to create more and more realistic video games has lead to, well, more realistic video games. And in terms of this essay, that means more realistic violence.

Many will and do argue against the negativity towards video games. Being a game enthusiast myself, I can look on both sides of the issue with ease and, I must say, I tend to lean towards the latter. It isnt that video games are not as violent as people say they are, this part is true. But despite this, people need to get their facts straight, because they are basing their views on false information.

First and foremost, let us debunk the most common and by far the most popular myth: [i]Video games cause violence.[/i] I have played video games for years and the only victims of my pixel-infused rages were the controllers I flung across the room in fits of utter frustration at the game before me. In fact, every avid gamer I know is about the most passive and amiable person you would ever meet (when not in the game, that is).

But, Will, you say, what about Columbine? Those two played Doom all the time! Perhaps, but those two were also social outcasts of their school who were constantly harassed by there schoolmates and had deep rooted emotional problems, as well as trouble within the home. Their entire environment was unwholesome, not just the games they played. So, yes, there are always the exceptions to the rule, but they are just that, exceptions. Yet parents and congressmen alike persist in linking youth violence to games, despite the fact that violence among teens has been on a steady decrees for years, even while graphic video game sales are at an all time high (Vastag, p1822). Makes ya think.

The descriptions of games are also misleading and, in some cases, highly fanciful. In Noreen Herzfelds article Video shootout: The games people play, she described games including scenes of rape and full nudity. To my knowledge, there is no game featuring rape on the mainstream market. None. Nudity is an extreme rarity, while she exclaimed that games often include full nudity (Ruger, p43). Other articles and even newspapers have portrayed games as the corruptors of our nations youth and are seen as some vile entity ready to snap up the frail minds of our children. Most of this is either misinformed, or propaganda (Penny Arcade). The fact of the matter is that there are a virtual plethora of games that have no nudity, no sexuality, and little violence. All sports games aside (since meantioning them would be redundant), shall I name a few for you? Spider-Man, Morrowind, Final Fantasy, Mario Kart, Donky Kong Country, Wipeout, Prince of Persia, the list goes on. All top-notch games and all virtually (ha-ha) violence free.

Secondly, no matter how much you want to whine and bitch about it, parents, not companies, are responsible for what their children view and play. This, to me, should be as obvious as daylight. Its written in the book of parenting. Look it up some time. Its there. A parent should know what their kids are doing and when their kids are doing it. You wouldnt allow your child access to pornography, would you? The same goes for mature games. What so many fail to realize is that a large majority of gamers are, in fact, adult. This is not a child market. And so, quite naturally, companies want to make games that cater to more mature tastes. But so many assume that video games are a childs realm and, therefore, all made for children that they fail to properly supervise their young ones. But the fact that parents are seemingly too busy to monitor their own children should flash more warning than a violent video game could ever hope for.

Censorship is the third big issue here. To date, the Constitution states that free speech shall be admitted to all, and it is (whether you want them to speak or not). So isnt it within a companys legal and constitutional parameters to produce whatever game they see fit, so long as it is properly rated and labeled? Whether you like it or not, the answer to this is yes (Penny Arcade). However, many still enforce the censoring or even banning of violent video games. Wal-Mart, a store known for its family friendly orientation, refuses to distribute uncensored music and games at many of its locations (ironically, they have no problem with firearms and will gladly sell you a very nice piece for the lowest price in town).

Violence within video games is an issue which has captivated a nation as well as frightened more than a few. While parents are up in arms, advocates are desperately trying to show them what exactly they are fighting so adamantly against. Violent video games are not the issue here, people. The real issue is that parents and congress are taking a very real problem of violence and, instead of addressing it like mature adults, they are trying to throw blame onto some sort of scapegoat. Flame the big scary video games, because we dont want to admit that the problem lies at our own end! While violent video games are making many see red, all I can see is a whole lot of gray.

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[Sephir0th666777]

:huh:


WOW


Someone should use that for an essay
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[Stratadrake]

Um, hello? That's precisely what he did say it was... an essay for his debate class.
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[quote="Stratadrake (Strata)"] That's precisely what he did say it was... an essay [/quote]
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