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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Actualy, It is believed that the idea of zombies originated from rabies.
When one was infected by rabies, he or she would become feral, violent, and would attack others with teeth.
If the teeth broke the skin, then the person attacked would likely be infected with rabies also. This unusual behavior was immidietly linked to being possesed by the devil. Eventualy, the desiese rabies evolved in peoples minds into being the very incarnation of Satan spreading his influence. _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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[quote]Hehehe. Very holiday appropriate Will. ^_^[/quote]
Thank you. I try.
[quote]How does a human become infected by a zombie? Does a simple touch do the job or does a person have to be bitten, scratched, etc?[/quote]
There are two primary ways to become infected with the Solanum virus. The first, and most common, is to be bitten or scratched. Solanum is transmitted through the blood, therefore contact with fluids is necessary to carry the virus. The second way, though less common, is to come into contact with infected fluids through some other means, be it splattered blood or infected flesh. You can be grabbed by a zombie without becoming infected, so long as it does not puncture your skin. A zombie's flesh is also highly toxic. BY NO MEANS should you eat it.
[quote]What is the best way to describe a zombie's physical looks? Does it depend on how long the corpse has been dead or do all zombies look alike?[/quote]
Properly identifying a zombie is critical. Since one never wants to be close enough to be spotted, knowing friend from foe at first site can make all the difference in the world. The most outstanding feature of a zombie is actually in the way it moves. A zombie will walk along at a shuffling gait, usually hunched with arms hanging at its side. Where a person will walk upright at an even pace, a zombie's steps will be sporadic and slow. Also look for any bite marks, specifically on the shoulders and forearms. Older zombies are easier to recognize, as the flesh will have started to decay. In fact, with older zombies you will often smell them before you see them. Severe wounds that seem to go ignored (like missing limbs) are another warning sign. Remember: A zombie is nothing more than a turned human, and since there is no set description for a person, you will always have to be aware.
[quote]Okay, so if the head is still active after it is severed from the body, will crushing the zombie head (like with a brick for example) destroy the zombie completely?[/quote]
Well, once you have severed the head, it is the only thing you need to worry about, as the body at this point will be little more than a lifeless mass of rotting flesh. Destroying the brain is key to killing a zombie, so a sizable blow to the head (one powerful enough to crush the skull) is adequate for killing it. Also you can burn the head, and can do so without killing it, so long as you keep your fingers away from its teeth. In fact, burning the body is suggested anyways, as this removes all traces of the Solanum virus.
[quote]Are there such things as vampire zombies?[/quote]
That brings to question: are there such things as vampires? For all practical purposes, I will have to say no, but let's consider it for the sake of argument. If such a creature would exist, it would be a godsend. Zombies crave living flesh anyways, so there is no change there. However, since the "vampire zombie" is susceptible to sunlight, all one would have to do is wait for dawn. The hapless ghoul would not know enough to try and save itself from the daylight, and would burn to a crisp almost immediately. So, in short, a "vampire zombie" would be infinitely weaker and less worrisome than your standard variety.
[quote]This is probably true but I just want to make sure, can an infant turn into a zombie? [/quote]
Solanum holds neither restraint nor mercy towards the innocent.
[quote]What about pirate zombies? [/quote]
Undoubtedly at least one such pirate could have met his end at the hands of a zombie. Pirate activity was frequent in the Caribbean, as was many recorded zombie incidents. It is a definite possibility.
[quote]Glam fag zombies? [/quote]
Glam fags are people too. And all people are susceptible.
[quote]After a person is infected with the zombie virus, does that person have any chance at getting back to a normal life? Or is death the best way out?[/quote]
No. The Solanum virus is 100% communicable and 100% fatal. Death is assured. However, killing a person before they have succumbed to the virus will not stop the process. If anything, it will speed up the reaction.
[quote]Looking at this in a scientific sense, would you say then that Jesus may have possibly been a temporary zombie? (No offense to the Lord..just being scientific.)[/quote]
No. Historical and Biblical records show that Jesus contacted and communicated with those close to him. Were he to have been a zombie, he would have had no means of communication, and no memory of loved ones. Therefore, it is not scientifically possible for Jesus to have been a zombie. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:59 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Sephir0th666777 (Tyler)"] Actualy, It is believed that the idea of zombies originated from rabies.
When one was infected by rabies, he or she would become feral, violent, and would attack others with teeth.
If the teeth broke the skin, then the person attacked would likely be infected with rabies also. This unusual behavior was immidietly linked to being possesed by the devil. Eventualy, the desiese rabies evolved in peoples minds into being the very incarnation of Satan spreading his influence. [/quote]
That is wrong. Though I'm sure it would be a compounding factor to a cultures superstition, it is in no way the sole origin of zombie. Also, the idea of a zombie turning others was not consistent throughout different cultures. In voodoo, a zombie was created by a witchdoctor or priest, and under that person's control. Also, many of the "walking dead" of feudal times did not turn others, but simply feasted on their flesh. Medieval zombies, known as revenants, were the souls of the wicked returning from the dead. They would also hold vampiric qualities as well. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I'm like impressed. Are you like reading all of your answers out of a book? This is like pretty cool.
When was the alleged Solanum virus discovered?
Okay, since most Hollywood zombie movies can be inaccurate, would you say that there is at least one zombie movie is that is very accurate to the real thing?
Hmm, since a zombie's hearing is more accute than an average human then that means it must be more sensitive to sound, right? Well then wouldn't like using some kind of loud sound to stun a zombie? Surely they must be affected by the physical harm that comes with sound. So that might be a way to ward off zombies temporarily. Like playing a horrible sound on a stero system as loud as possible while you wear protective ear pieces. Its just a thought.
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: |
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[quote]Wow, I'm like impressed. Are you like reading all of your answers out of a book? This is like pretty cool.[/quote]
I've read books about it. Most of this stuff I'm pulling from memory. I do have my Zombie Survival Guide on hand to look up anything I can't remember.
[quote]When was the alleged Solanum virus discovered?[/quote]
It's earliest known [i]definate [/i]recording is 3000 BC in Hieraconpolis, Egypt. The discovery of zombism by the Egyptians has lead to debate as to whether or not this was why the brains were removed during mummification. However, Solanum was not recognised as a virus until 1913.
[quote]Okay, since most Hollywood zombie movies can be inaccurate, would you say that there is at least one zombie movie is that is very accurate to the real thing?[/quote]
The original Dawn of the Dead and Night of the Living Dead are great "what no to do" examples of a zombie infestation. The remake of Dawn sticks close to the original, if not for the suped-up ultra fast zombies. Still, it is pretty accurate to the "real thing". 28 Days Later, though not technically a zombie movie, has better guidelines for what to do for survival.
[quote]Hmm, since a zombie's hearing is more accute than an average human then that means it must be more sensitive to sound, right? Well then wouldn't like using some kind of loud sound to stun a zombie? Surely they must be affected by the physical harm that comes with sound. So that might be a way to ward off zombies temporarily. Like playing a horrible sound on a stero system as loud as possible while you wear protective ear pieces. Its just a thought.[/quote]
In all likelihood? No. The means of stunning a person through sonic waves is based entirely on pain factor. Since zombies do not feel pain on any level, they would not be affected. And any sonics powerfull enough to do damage to the inner ear and brain would most likely kill you too. Electricity, however, would be quite effective, being that it paralyzes your muscles. Since a zombie's musculature system is the same as ours, it could be temporarily stunned, though it would feel no pain, so this is only a short term solution. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Razeal Still very bored

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Razeal (Raz)"] Can animals detect Zombies? [/quote]
Very much so. In fact, animals instinctively avoid zombies. Carrion feeding animals, too, reject flesh infected with Solanum. This includes insects as well. Also of note: Though the virus will not reanimate a dead animal, it will kill it within hours. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:58 am Post subject: |
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See I don't understand how zombies can't feel pain. Their brain works for like the simplest functions and their muscle system is funtionable, right? So why is it that they are not able to feel pain? Is it because their spinal cord is inactive? I would just think that if a zombie is able to walk and use its muscles for simple tasks, then it should also be able to use involuntary functions like sending pain signals to the brain. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="eclipsedmoongoddess482 (Sixx)"] See I don't understand how zombies can't feel pain. Their brain works for like the simplest functions and their muscle system is funtionable, right? So why is it that they are not able to feel pain? Is it because their spinal cord is inactive? I would just think that if a zombie is able to walk and use its muscles for simple tasks, then it should also be able to use involuntary functions like sending pain signals to the brain. [/quote]
I'm sorry, I should have explained this more clearly. You see, zombies have, literally, no physical sensation. All nerve receptors throughout the body remain dead after reanimation. A human will feel pain and his or her brain will classify the sensation, match it to the experience that instigated it, and then file that information away as future warning.
You need to understand that a zombie's brain works in no way like that of a human. Imagine a computer program that was created to do one specific task. This program cannot adapt and cannot change. This is like the functions of a zombie mind. It knows how to walk, how to perform basic motor functions. It knows that it must feed, and to signal others when prey is spotted. It cannot learn in any form, it will not change or adapt to its environment in any way. It is virtually unaware. So, even if a zombie's nerve receptors were still alive, the brain would not register the information. It would not realize it is feeling pain.
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Okay that totally makes sense. I understand now. Thanks.
You may have already answered this before but I'm not sure..anyways, how does a zombie understand the difference between human flesh and animal flesh? Just by the simple use of sight I'm guessing? _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="eclipsedmoongoddess482 (Sixx)"] You may have already answered this before but I'm not sure..anyways, how does a zombie understand the difference between human flesh and animal flesh? Just by the simple use of sight I'm guessing? [/quote]
It doesn't. A zombie will attack and devour anything it can get its hands on. Current studies are trying to determine how, or if, a zombie can tell one of its own from a living person, as zombies do not attack, and for the most part ignore, each other. One theory was that a zombie identifies another zombie by in the way it moves. Tests were held where humans would mimic a zombie's motions in attempts to confuse it. To date, none of these attempts have succeeded. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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KeheiZero Elder In Training

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Is breaking a zombie's neck a good way to incapacitate it? _________________ "You know what? My squirrel instinct tells me he's even more of a bastard than I first thought." - Gene Hunt |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: |
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[quote]Is there any vaccine against the Solanum virus? can you be immunised beforehand?[/quote]
No. There is no known vaccination or treatment for the Solanum virus. It is 100 percent communicable and 100 percent fatal.
[quote]Is breaking a zombie's neck a good way to incapacitate it? [/quote]
Yes. Breaking a zombie's neck or spinal cord is a good way to render it incapacitated and, if your primary goal is escape only, perfectly suitable. However, keep in mind that you will still need to destroy the brain if you want to put the zombie down for good. Also be aware that it can still bite. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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What was the worse known outbreak of the Solanum virus?
Are there certain places that may be more prone to Solanum than others?
How quickly does the Solanum virus take effect once a person is infected with it?
Is a zombie bite the only known way to come in contact with the disease?
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]What was the worse known outbreak of the Solanum virus?[/quote]
One of the most serious outbreaks in history occurred in French North Africa at Fort Louis Philippe in 1893. The incident is recorded in the diary of a junior officer of the French Foreign Legion. According to him, around dawn a lone Arab was discovered right outside the fort on the brink of death from sun and thirst. Before he died, he described an attack on his village several miles away by "a plague that turned its victims into cannibalistic horrors". The next day, a heard of what was first thought to be animals was seen on the horizon. As it approached, it was then realized that these were people. The officer describes them as being tattered and wounded, their flesh absent of color and smelling of rot. All hails are ignored and, when the large crowd would not stop, the soldiers opened fire. This produced no result, and the gate was quickly ordered closed.
What followed was the longest zombie siege ever recorded. The undead, numbering above 500 (a high Class 2 to low Class 3 outbreak), surrounded the fort and prevented all escape. What runners the soldiers sent out were either devoured straight away or never seen again, most likely succumbing to their wounds. For almost three years the soldiers held out in the fort. The legionnaires were never able to grasp that their attackers were dead, wasting there ammunition on torso shots. Any accidental head shots were not enough to convince them of this successful tactic. Luckily legion forts such as these run highly stocked with provisions, however by the third year the soldiers had resorted to eating the horses and pack animals. Several attempts to fight there way out were made, to no success. A few soldiers took there own lives, and an attempted mutiny thinned the ranks as well, bringing the total number of survivors to only 27.
Finally a plan was devised. All remaining legionnaires gathered up what water and food remained and positioned themselves on the gate wall. A man was lowered on a rope and opened the gate, allowing the undead to swarm in. Using himself as bait, he lured the entire mass of zombies into the fort and then climbed up a rope onto the wall at the opposite side. Another man was lowered and quickly shut the gate again, being raised up just in time. With the zombies now effectively trapped inside, the legionaries escaped from the fort, killing what few undead still remained outside, before making fir the nearest village. The Colonel was later court-martialed and imprisoned. The French government still denies the incident ever occurred.
[quote]Are there certain places that may be more prone to Solanum than others?[/quote]
North Africa, as well as parts of Egypt, India, and the Mediterranean are the sights of multiple recorded zombie outbreaks. Though the undead have been seen in many parts of the world, these places tend to have a higher average than others.
[quote]How quickly does the Solanum virus take effect once a person is infected with it?[/quote]
A human will die within 20 hours of being infected with the Solanum virus, though around hour 16 they will have slipped into a coma. The body will then be reanimated typically within three hours after death.
[quote]Is a zombie bite the only known way to come in contact with the disease?[/quote]
No. Any open wound on a person that comes in contact with infected flesh will contract the virus. Contact with fluids should also be avoided. They was even an isolated case of a 9-year-old girl becoming infected from a blood transfusion, though how the hospital aquired blood that contained Solanum is a mystery. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Will zombies ever become a serious threat in the near future, or do we have nothing to worry about? _________________ [img]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/lunaticcrow/goodnight.jpg[/img] |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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[quote="LunaticCrow (Brad Kirstein)"] Will zombies ever become a serious threat in the near future, or do we have nothing to worry about? [/quote]
I would be lying if I told you I knew. To date, there has never been a known zombie outbreak to ever exceed beyond a Class 2. However, all it takes is a little ignorance and negligence to start a wide spread infection. Perhaps the zombie threat will never become serious on a global level; perhaps the outbreak has already started. But if you do value your life, watch for these signs:
- Homicides where victims were executed through headshots or decapitation. It has happened many times: A person recognizes a zombie for what it is and takes matters into their own hands. Almost always these people are declared murderers and prosecuted as such.
- Missing persons, particularly in wilderness or uninhabited areas. Also pay careful attention if one or more of the search team turns up missing, as well as any weapons the team may carry. Any more than one rifle per group is cause for alarm.
- Cases of "violent insanity" in which a person attacked friends or family without the use of a weapon. Find out if the attacker bit or tried to bite his victims. Are those victims in the hospital? Have they died from unknown aliments prior to attack?
- Riots or other civil disturbances that begin without provocation or other logical cause.
- Disease based deaths in which the causes are undetermined or highly suspect. Look for cases in which the exact nature of the disease is unexplained.
- Any case in which a media blackout has occurred. The occurrence of one should be an immediate red flag.
Use these tips, and you just may be able to spot a zombie invasion before its too late. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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What would be the most effective thing to do if a masive outbreak of solanum happened in some large city like new york or tokyo? (Think like resident evil's raccon city).
Can the virus be transferred through air? Or food, if the food has been near, but not touching, a zombie?
If you encountered a lone zombie, would it be best to catch it to avoid being charged with homocide?
Whats the best weapon for dealing with a zombies? Guns probably wouldn't be best, because of the noise, right?
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Razeal Still very bored

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