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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Hope you don't mind me like using your idea Will. I just can't turn down a chance to get in the Halloween spirit. ^_^
I used to like have this big vampire fetish about a year ago mostly due to the Vampire Chronicles series. Great books, check them out if you have time. Just stop reading them after the fourth book because after that they like start getting into religion and it just sucks.
But anyway, I like read a lot about vampires after reading those books. More accurate ones. So like I know vampires in both the realistic aspect and the romantic one (i.e Dracula, Vampire Chronicles, etc.)
If you have any questions about vampires, anything at all, feel free to ask me. I'll do my best to answer your questions. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Yay! A vampie expert and a zombie expert. This is gonna rock.
OK, guess I'll start us off. What is the best way (or ways) to kill/destroy a vampire? _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sunlight is the most effective way to kill a vampire mostly because its the only sure weakness against them. While a cross and holy water are able to hurt a vampire, they only weaken them a little. Even in excess amounts, holy water will not kill a vampire. But almost any amount of natural sunlight will kill a vampire. Its all a matter of surving the night and finding their coffin (or whatever they are using to stay for the daytime) and then taking it out in open sunlight.
Oh and a stake through the heart will work too. Its a little more dangerous than the sunlight trick though. This is due to the fact that older vampires are able to sleep with their eyes open thus making you vunerable to their hypnosis. They can keep you trapped there until nighttime till they awake and then its blood sucking time for you. However, if a stake is the only possible option then the best technique is to avert your eyes away from the head. Make sure that you put all your strength into stabbing the heart. Vampire flesh is harder to penetrate than a human's so it takes a strong body to effectivly stab a vampire. Then make sure to stand back because the vampire will go into a seizure-like fit which can include spitting up black blood, screeching in a high pitch that can actually be harmful to human ears, and slight levitation (or in some rare cases, violent levitation in which the vampire corpse will crash into the ceiling and then crush itself under the rubble.) The flesh will normally decay shortly after this and all you should be left with is the vampire skeleton which will pose no threat to you.
So sunlight or a stake are the most effective ways to kill vampires if you know how to use them right. :)
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have also heard that a good follow up to the steak is removal of the head and placing a clove of garlic in the mouth. Is this commen belief as well, or some more obscure knowledge? _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Razeal Still very bored

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Can Vampires turn into bats, or do they stay in thier original vampiric form?
And is there a cure for Vampirism? (<3 Morrowind) _________________ Cha Cha Chaaaa |
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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The stake ritual actually varies in different cultures. Damn, I wish I had my vampire book with me but I do remember reading that it all depends on the culture and time period. I have heard about the garlic mouth one too and there was another I heard about where they actually strung garlic in a necklace of sorts and placed that around the neck of the corpse. Another culture even believes in turning the corpse upside down in its coffin and placing a heavy rock over the coffin. And a more violent belief (if you're like psuedo religious) is to hang the corpse upside down so its head is facing downward (i.e Hell) that way, the vampire's spirit is guaranteed to go to Hell.
I should've been like more specific with how to handle the corpse after the stake kills the vampire. I'm sorry. :(
[quote]Can Vampires turn into bats, or do they stay in thier original vampiric form?[/quote]
The animal transformation is a popular myth and only a myth. Vampires are nothing more than humans who function without a heartbeat or breathing but still have intelligence and the ability to do complex tasks. The ability for them to transform into other beings is just as impossible for them to do as it would be for a normal human.
[quote]And is there a cure for Vampirism? (<3 Morrowind) [/quote]
Vampirism has the same end as Solanum. There is no cure. Once you have been bit and drained you are a vampire for eternity or until someone kills you with sunlight or a stake. Important note: Being bit from a vampire will not turn you into a vampire. A vampire must drain your blood to the point of dying in order for you to be a member of the undead. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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It's all good. I've never even heard of most of this stuff anyways. ^_^
Ok, is it possible to reason or negotiate with a vampire? _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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kitsunelover25 Forum Stalker

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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What's the most common look for a vampire? Or does it vary?
Like zombies, does it matter what age they are? Can children and infants be vamps? |
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Will. That makes me like feel better. ^_^
[quote]Ok, is it possible to reason or negotiate with a vampire? [/quote]
Good question. I guess it really depends on the vampire. Fledgings (newly made vampires) are new to the thirst for blood and for a while, it will consume them and like zombies, they will spend their nights hunting for fresh blood. To talk with or reason with a fledging is very unwise because it will mostly get you nowhere. On the bright side, a fledging is more vunerable to crosses and holy water than older vampires. Even a sketched up drawing of the cross after you bless it will cause harm to the fledging.
Older vampires that are centuries old are able to reason and even have relationships with mortals. Its also very unwise to do this too because the thirst for blood is still in them. While it does not control their thoughts anymore, it does manipulate a lot of their actions and reasons for associating with mortals. If you find yourself trapped by an old vampire and try to negociate with it, then good luck. Although the vampire may end up tricking you or if it has to, it may just use its hypnosis in the process. So make sure you avoid looking at the vampire's face when you speak to it.
Vampires do understand that sometimes they need mortals in order to survive. So if you are so desperate to live then your best bet when negociating with a vampire is to promise to be its bodyguard. By accepting that responsibility you will manage the vampire's finances, posessions and of course, make sure its coffin is well hidden to mortals. It is a dark and unfulfilling life that can end with just the slightest slip-up. But hey, at least you'll be alive. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Vampires can also be destroyed by running water, which they cannot cross.
Another way to kill one, is to use any form of light (need not be sunlight) to make the shadow of a holy symbol on their forhead.
Putting garlic in their mouth makes them go into shock.
Now, to use anime and movies to delve deeper.
Vampires also can be killed using silver. (Stakes, bullets, swords, ect.)
If you can hollow out a bullet, and fill it with mercury, than that is also able to kill a vampire.
@Emily, Vampires that are turned at a young age will often times continue to age, usualy stopping in their prime, or in some cases, the beginings of old age. _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]What's the most common look for a vampire? Or does it vary?
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Vampires are more intact with their bodies than zombies are so they actually can look just like a normal human being who hasn't seen the sun in quiet some time. Also, vampires are more intelligent and aware of their appearence in the mortal world so a vampire can disguise itself with makeup so it looks less pale. Its almost impossible to identify a vampire at first glance. Your best bet to identifying a vampire would be to check its teeth. The fangs will be noticable by a little bit because the canines are larger in both thickness and length.
[quote]Like zombies, does it matter what age they are? Can children and infants be vamps? [/quote]
Yes. Sad as it is, children and infants can become tiny bloodsuckers too. And age does not really matter for the immortal undead. A vampire has all of eternity to learn and grow mentally. A seven year old can be turned into a vampire and years later it could have the mind of a forty year old trapped in a seven year old body. This is why most older vampires will avoid turn children into vampires. It is a blasphemy and horror that unnerves even vampires.
[quote]Vampires also can be killed using silver. (Stakes, bullets, swords, ect.)
If you can hollow out a bullet, and fill it with mercury, than that is also able to kill a vampire.
@Emily, Vampires that are turned at a young age will often times continue to age, usualy stopping in their prime, or in some cases, the beginings of old age. [/quote]
But like you said, thats using anime and movies to like come to those conclusions. The idea of a vampire still physically aging after its been transformed is a romantic idea at best. A vampire stays at the age it was first drained for eternity. If it ages, it will age only in intelligence and motor skills.
And silver won't have an effect on old vampires unless you're using a silver stake. Like silver crosses can definetly severely harm a fledging vampire but if a vampire is centuries old then stick with the silver stake. Hell, it doesn't even have to be silver. If you have a screwdriver then use that if thats all you have with you. All that matters is that the heart must be stabbed totally through.
[quote]Another way to kill one, is to use any form of light (need not be sunlight) to make the shadow of a holy symbol on their forhead.
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That actually would only severely weaken a vampire if its not natural sunlight. If its natural sunlight then yes, that is a great way to kill a vampire. But flashlight light will only be effective on younger vampires. The older a vampire gets, the more invunerable it becomes to some forms of vampire hunting such as crosses, garlic, etc. Some vampires can become so invunerable that they can even touch crosses without flinching. If a vampire is able to do that then I suggest running away as fast as you can. :)
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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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It isn't the light, or the holy symbol (Needs not be a cross, just something that is a symbol of a diety). It is the shadow formed on the vampires skin. The shadow burns throught the vampires skin, and leaves the area that it burned through unable too regenerate.
[b]QUOTE[/b] (sixx) | But like you said, thats using anime and movies to like come to those conclusions.[/quote]
Is there anything more accurate? Remember, we [b]are[/b] talking about a fictional state of being _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]QUOTE (sixx)
But like you said, thats using anime and movies to like come to those conclusions.
Is there anything more accurate? Remember, we are talking about a fictional state of being [/quote]
Ahh..excellent point but I am trying to like keep this in the most realistic view as possible. If I were to use any given vampire movies as reference then I might as well just stick with the Anne Rice version and tell you all that all vampires originated in Europe and have hot gay buttsex with each other. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm actualy using a multitude of references.
Hellsing, Underworld, Dracula, Forgotten Realms, Vampire Hunter D, and The Blade trilogy. _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with some of those (i.e Hellsing, Vampire D) is that they have a romantic view of vampires. Its okay. Anne Rice does the exact same thing by making her vampires remoreful and beautiful. But thats not how a vampire would be in real life most likely.
I'm using a Stephen King book that I read awhile ago called 'Salem's Lot. Very accurate in terms of how vampires act and live. There were even chapters from other and older vampire books and articles that were real. Like what incubus are, how do you properly kill a vampire, etc.
One of the more creppy sections in the book was the article about a man who had vampire traits and behaviors but never claimed to be a vampire. He would suck the blood from women and geese. But he wasn't a vampire because he was drinking menstrual blood and vampires can't survive off that kind of blood.
Unless you're reading the Anne Rice books. Then its okay to do that and its even very romantice. :)
But I don't want to stray off my original source so yeah.. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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kitsunelover25 Forum Stalker

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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When you kill a vampire, do their bodies remain? Do they just evaporate?
Like, in Hellsing, you'll see that when they kill the vampires, they simply turn into mist. True? False? |
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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="kitsunelover25 (Emily)"] When you kill a vampire, do their bodies remain? Do they just evaporate?
Like, in Hellsing, you'll see that when they kill the vampires, they simply turn into mist. True? False? [/quote]
Generaly, when A Vampire dies, it's body decomposes at a ridicolusly fast rate.
Meaning, it turns to dust almost immidietly. _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Tyler's right with that one. But it also depends on how the vampire died. If the vampire's death was from exposure to sunlight, then the body will actually burst into flames (ever hear of spontaneous combustion? Its kind of like that.) If the vampire died from a stake in the heart then the flesh will actually atrophy itself and degenerate into nothingness leaving you with just a skeleton of the vampire. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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What is the earliest known record of a vampire?
Can vampires be hurt by conventional means, like a shotgun? If not killed, could you still at least use this to keep them at bay?
Can vampires fly, walk across walls and ceilings, or change form? _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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eclipsedmoongoddess482 Elder In Training

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:18 am Post subject: |
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[quote]What is the earliest known record of a vampire?[/quote]
Back in the Egyptian times. But thats like using the Anne Rice version. :(
I do know this know this though it was Count Vlad and he lived (lives..?) in Transylvania.
[quote]Can vampires be hurt by conventional means, like a shotgun? If not killed, could you still at least use this to keep them at bay?[/quote]
Unless the bullets were blessed earlier then no. The bullets will be useless against the vampires. Especially single single shotgun shots because vampires can regenerate their wounded flesh so like say you shoot a vampire once in the head. It will take like about a minute or less for that wound to heal fully. Not enough time to run. Your best bet when using that kind of machinery is to use a machine gun. The rapid hit of the bullets won't kill the vampire but they should be able to tear the vampire's flesh off so quickly that the vampire will have to take a long while to regenerate so much destroyed flesh.
[quote]Can vampires fly, walk across walls and ceilings, or change form? [/quote]
Vampires can walk on walls and ceilings and they can levitate for short periods of time. But they don't have the ability to fly like superman. If they did then they wouldn't have to hire mortals to move their coffins from city to city like most old vampires do. And for them to change form is just a popular myth. They can disguise themselves to look mortal and thats it. _________________ Vaccum cleaners may look fun, but are deadly sex toys. as are certain vegetables like, terri schiavo -Powtaz |
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