U2 Vertigo Tour

[Tengoku1]

I just picked up a copy last night from work, and am watching it right now. SUCH a good show.

I'm watching it again right now.

It's filmed and directed by Hamish Hamilton (Elevation tour, and a chunk of their videos. Also other musicians videos) This time around though, he kind of moves the camera around too much. Think Bourne Supremecy fight scenes, just not as zoomed in.

But there are some great shots, and it's still a great show.

[celestina67]

Does this mean that i should start a topic on how i love noobs?

[Fayore]

At least it's grammatically correct. There's someone else who got stuck with the title, "daisuki neko". :/
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[Paru]

Titles intended to irritate those whp use them are the best kind!
*glances at own title* >_>
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[DG-sama]

My title is the best ^^

...cause it's true >.>

Paru.. I've always liked yours for some reason XD
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[Paru]

Haha, thank you! ^^;; I don't think it's nearly as interesting as Satanic boyscouts though.
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[Beatlechick90]

Why does the n00b get a title?
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[Touzoku-joou]

This is like the "give people titles thread". XD z0mg.

Poor Mairi.

I propose with destroy this with WMDs before it causes too much trouble. :0 DESTROY.
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[Sephir0th666777]

Won't be as good as Rush's 30th anniversery tour
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[Touzoku-joou]

WAOW clever topic change! :0
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[August]

Just because this topic was made in the wrong category does not mean it is a free-for-all. Learn to stay on topic. This is not about N00bs, it's about a tour DVD.

Moved.

[Touzoku-joou]

[quote="August (Kate)"] Just because this topic was made in the wrong category does not mean it is a free-for-all. Learn to stay on topic. This is not about N00bs, it's about a tour DVD.

Moved. [/quote]
Actually, it ws originally a topic about member titles and the threadstarter randomly decided to change it. :0

Hence the OTness.

Dunno why he changed it.
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[August]

Oh well, I didn't know that? Go with what it is now.

[fallenangel]

Blows.

'Cause U2 are self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years but still have the attitude as if they just released Sunday Bloody Sunday part II.

Music DVDs can only be as good as the group in them. Camera work is rather inconsequential unless you're looking for some eye candy, and sound quality should be decent (but these days you'll never see a mainstream release that sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone, so it's a moot point), but the show itself is the whole concept, so... even not having seen this 'cause I refuse to sit through that much U2, I can safely say that if I were to see it, I'd still think it blows.

U2...need to call it a day. Or at least stop releasing music. Take your little greatest hits show on the road and rake in more money from poor fans who, like yourself, believe you are a god on earth, and stop subjecting music to the half assed pieces of garbage you put out now. I don't mind egos ('cause...ya know...DLR and such are gods), but if you don't have the goods to back up why you're so arrogant, fuck you (I'm looking at you, Bono...).
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[Touzoku-joou]

[quote="August (Kate)"] Oh well, I didn't know that? Go with what it is now. [/quote]
Oh, I know. I was just justifying the OTness of everybody. :B
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[Tengoku1]

[quote="fallenangel (fallen)"] Blows.

'Cause U2 are self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years but still have the attitude as if they just released Sunday Bloody Sunday part II.

Music DVDs can only be as good as the group in them. Camera work is rather inconsequential unless you're looking for some eye candy, and sound quality should be decent (but these days you'll never see a mainstream release that sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone, so it's a moot point), but the show itself is the whole concept, so... even not having seen this 'cause I refuse to sit through that much U2, I can safely say that if I were to see it, I'd still think it blows.

U2...need to call it a day. Or at least stop releasing music. Take your little greatest hits show on the road and rake in more money from poor fans who, like yourself, believe you are a god on earth, and stop subjecting music to the half assed pieces of garbage you put out now. I don't mind egos ('cause...ya know...DLR and such are gods), but if you don't have the goods to back up why you're so arrogant, fuck you (I'm looking at you, Bono...). [/quote]
Your opinion on the show, while rightfully yours, is worthless. You haven't seen it, yet you say it blows.

And then you try to justify your opinions by calling them "self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years" Okay. That makes the whole concert moot. Right.

You can't rip on something you haven't even seen or heard.

"Have you seen the Shawshank Redemption?"

"No, because it blows"

And where do you get the idiotic idea that I believe them to be gods? I liked the concert. I don't worship them. Don't like it? Don't listen to it.

You're looking at Bono with defiance. I can pretty much garauntee that he doesn't give a rats ass about what an administrator on the FCF thinks.

[Sephir0th666777]

[quote="Tengoku1 (Morti)"] [quote="fallenangel (fallen)"] Blows.

'Cause U2 are self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years but still have the attitude as if they just released Sunday Bloody Sunday part II.

Music DVDs can only be as good as the group in them.  Camera work is rather inconsequential unless you're looking for some eye candy, and sound quality should be decent (but these days you'll never see a mainstream release that sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone, so it's a moot point), but the show itself is the whole concept, so...  even not having seen this 'cause I refuse to sit through that much U2, I can safely say that if I were to see it, I'd still think it blows.

U2...need to call it a day.  Or at least stop releasing music.  Take your little greatest hits show on the road and rake in more money from poor fans who, like yourself, believe you are a god on earth, and stop subjecting music to the half assed pieces of garbage you put out now.  I don't mind egos ('cause...ya know...DLR and such are gods), but if you don't have the goods to back up why you're so arrogant, fuck you (I'm looking at you, Bono...). [/quote]
Your opinion on the show, while rightfully yours, is worthless. You haven't seen it, yet you say it blows.

And then you try to justify your opinions by calling them "self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years" Okay. That makes the whole concert moot. Right.

You can't rip on something you haven't even seen or heard.

"Have you seen the Shawshank Redemption?"

"No, because it blows"

And where do you get the idiotic idea that I believe them to be gods? I liked the concert. I don't worship them. Don't like it? Don't listen to it.

You're looking at Bono with defiance. I can pretty much garauntee that he doesn't give a rats ass about what an administrator on the FCF thinks. [/quote]
Looks like tengoku needs to read Fact vs. Opinion 101

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[Tengoku1]

I did. What I'm trying to figure out is why she says that the show I'm talking about sucks. Because she doesn't like them? That's her right. But she can't place judgement on something she doesn't know about.

I don't like Tom Cruise, but I thought War of the Worlds was a pretty decent film. But the thing there is...I've seen that movie.

She can go off about how U2 did this and didn't do that, but that has nothing to do with the Vertigo concert that I'm talking about. That is just sooo not 'sugoi'

[fallenangel]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

aww. the newbie wants to argue music with Fallen. :wub:

'k. We'll play for awhile. Anyone wanna keep score this time?

Your opinion on the show, while rightfully yours, is worthless Everyone's opinion is worthless, I thought that was pretty obvious. No one's opinion means anything, but you still asked for it. Had I blindly praised U2 without ever having seen it, you'd be kissing my ass for loving them with you.. You haven't seen it Correct, yet you say it blows. Also true.

And then you try to justify your opinions by calling them "self important, pompous jagoffs who have passed their prime and not done anything relavent for years" Is this all going to be repeating what I said, 'cause I could just go read my post again. Okay. That makes the whole concert moot. Right. Yep. I'd say why, but I think I'll save that for below. Too long to do in red. But be assured I have a much better reason than "I dun lyke dem". Always do.

You can't rip on something you haven't even seen or heard Sure I can. But I HAVE seen and heard U2, so this isn't entirely true. I just haven't seen this particular dvd. If I did, my opinions would be the same.

"Have you seen the Shawshank Redemption?" Yep. Several times.

"No, because it blows" Fabulous movie, but your logic is flawed. If I hadn't seen Shawshank Redemption and not heard anything about it, then that would be a logical step. BUT, if I'd read the script, knew of the actor's past work and talent, and was familiar with the director, then it would be applicable in this case. But I don't think that's what you were saying.

And where do you get the idiotic idea that I believe them to be gods? Never said you did, I said most. Are you 99% of their fans? I thought for sure there were still more sheep out there. I liked the concert. Good for you. That's never been a valid discussion here. I don't worship them. Lucky for you. If you did, my reply wouldn't be so polite. Don't like it? No, I'm quite pleased you don't worship them, but I'm sure Bono is terribly disappointed. Don't listen to it. That's what I've been doing, and you've been criticizing me for it. Way to go!

You're looking at Bono with defiance. Defiance? www.dictionary.com I'm not defying anything, I'm saying he's an asshole. Most of the free world is saying the same thing at this point. I can pretty much garauntee that he doesn't give a rats ass about what an administrator on the FCF thinks. The hell is FCF? Did I ever think he would care? Please point out where I said I wrote a letter telling Mr. Bono how much he sucks? I'm telling YOU and the people here how much he sucks, it has nothing to do with him personally. Don't know the man, don't want to, I care about him as much as he cares about me.



NOW THEN, since you insist on making me waste my precious time on this sorry excuse for a legendary band, I will. So don't worry your cute little head that I'm insulting something I know nothing about.

So I can't say the dvd sucks without seeing it hmm...oh, but I can. Know why? I've seen other live footage of them. I've heard their songs. I've seen their interviews. I've read the stories of their behavior. And it all totals to them having egos as if they just released Joshua Tree B, when in reality nothing they've done has come close to their past work. Very few groups continue to release such material, and that's fine, but their attitude have continued to be as haughty and grating.

Bono is a self righteous prick (to the public, blah blah blah). I'm not going to bother supporting this because it involves digging up any number of sources, and you won't believe it anyway. The fact he behaves this way with no music to back it up is pathetic.

But that's not the topic at hand, the topic is how I can say the DVD blows without seeing it. I'll break it down for you. Let me guess what is on said DVD, shall I? About 20 or so songs, given that an average concert is 2 hours long, and each song about 4 minutes. They'll do the standard greatest hits package, Sunday Bloody Sunday and all that. Songs that were brilliant at the time but are over and done with. You don't see their peers hanging off past success the way they do. Then they'll do the required set of new songs, given that it is the tour for the new release. This is where I can be assured that it blows without a doubt. A generic greatest hits package like many groups do would be perhaps mediocre.

Their new album was garbage. Complete and utter garbage. I've heard it. Multiple times. Because I was pretty sure it would be and needed to be able to say for certain to people like you. The lyrics are weak and music mediocre at best. And yes, that's opinion, my opinion, and I'm not even going to try to back it up more than that to such a loud mouthed little fan. Breaking down the guitar and vocals and specific writing would fall on deaf ears, and I have dinner to make.

BUT ANYWAY, Vertigo was lame. So, therefore, all the songs off it played on the tour will be equally lame. Even more so because you'll have to look at them. This is how I can say it sucks without seeing it. I HAVE seen them before, and I HAVE heard the songs. Put them together, and I know exactly what goes on in that dvd without seeing it. Everyone knows how Mick Jagger performs. Tell someone you have a video of Mick singing Satisfaction, and they know exactly what they'll be seeing. Same cocky strut, same little moves, same voice inflection, it's all the same time and time again 'cause consistency is what fans want. Unless they completely shook things up and played all the songs as reggae or only used instruments made of cardboard, but U2 are too much of a commercial product these days to do that and upset fans who paid good money to see them. If I read a movie script and knew the ability of the cast, I could say whether a film sucks or not without seeing it too. Because when you add the words and the feeling, [b]that makes or breaks the thing[/b].

What they're wearing, the witty on stage banter, asking the audience how they're feeling, what kind of light show they have, how clear the camera angles are, it's all eye candy. You can't take the worst band in the world and give them a nice light show and expensive filming equipment and call it a great dvd. It's the songs and the performance. I know both of which when it comes to U2. Unless they've completely changed, which they haven't as proven by the iPod commercial, they're the same self important band that has been releasing horrid attempts to regain their past glory for decades.

And they survive off fans who don't know any better. That's fine. All the power to 'em, it's made 'em stinking rich and far more famous than I'll ever be. I'm not involved in this at all. They don't care what I think of them, and I don't care to purchase anything they do. We have a mutual understanding.

This is more time I've spent on U2 than...ever.
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[Tengoku1]

Maybe it's your condescending tone that gets me, I don't know. Sure I'm a 'newbie' on this site (which I figured was called the FanCentral Forums, hence FCF)

This is a cheap shot, but I didn't ask for your opinion as you say I did. I just stated that I liked the show. And the way you swoop in to 'play with the newb' like the god of this board that you are is as egocentric as the band's self image.

You say I'm criticizing you for not listening to it. I'm not, or at least I'm not intending that message. What I'm criticizing is your ability to judge something without even seeing it. But you have listened to the album in order to hate it, and you've done your research about past events. 'Way to go!' :woot:

Look at that piss poor director Uwe Boll.

Having seen his movies (from other's rentals thankfully), I can tell you that they suck ass. And it's true, I expect any film that he even contemplates on making to be of the same calibur. His history as a director sucks. (Read: Sanctimony) I've read the many interviews, (more for comic relief, but anyways) and was actually banned from his web site. (to which I joined for the same reason. And the ban was unfair)

But as much as I'd like to, I can't say that I absolutely KNOW that his future works will be as horrid as they are now. Do I expect them to be? Hell yes! But there's a difference.

We can all assume things, but in the end, we can't know it without first hand experience. Just like you know this concert blows.

It would be understandable if you stated that you probably wouldn't like it, based off of all the research you've done.

You actually did say this in the first post,"cause I refuse to sit through that much U2, I can safely say that if I were to see it, I'd still think it blows." But then, up above, you went on to say,"So I can't say the dvd sucks without seeing it hmm...oh, but I can." And I'm sorry that this lowly newb has wasted your precious time o goddess of the Fancentral Forums. Awww, he doesn't lay down and kiss your ass. :wub:

[b]EDIT:[/b] Argh...It doesn't matter. I'm making a big deal for no reason, other than pride. You could be right or I could be right. But I shouldn't make a fuss over it.