New Kingdom Hearts 2 Trailer.

[Stratadrake]

[quote]Kingdom Hearts sucks and I'll fight anybody who says otherwise.[/quote]
Anybody? Try [i]everybody[/i]. You'll never last. ;)

Seriously, though, where's the beef?
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[Hawk4444]

oh really mr.roberts


well the USA date is inching closer and i'm trebling with excitement :wub:
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[KeheiZero]

Bah,I bet it'll take ages for it to come out here. Shadow of Collosus only came out here like a week ago. <_<
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[Kagome0]

goshhh i love the trailors X_X i cant wait for it to come out!!!! and btw Rita how could you lie to us T-T



u said u got it but never really did and u like made us all jealous for nothinggggggg



ur sooooooooooooooooooooo evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X_X

lol

[Twinstar]

[quote="Fayore (高位召"] Yayyy, gift come showering. :0

For those of you who can't wait for the release on March 28th, here's the Japanese OP movie to KH2, very high quality so you can take decent screenshots if you need 'em or something. Very pretty. I like it, and I don't know anything about KH, so... :B (86 mb, sorry dial-up. D: ) The song is "Passion", by Utada Hikaru (same woman who did the KH1 op theme, both J and En. versions). [/quote]
unfortunately, your link had expired. I can't remeber if I've already watched it but I think I can wait till the 28th now anyway.
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[Pabbit_da_Rabbit]

Bluelaguna.net has two FMVs from KH2. The opening and of Twilight Town. Images and OST are there too (OST=official sound track)

http://bluelaguna.net/movies/kh2/fmvs.php

Oh and you need DivX to play them.

But I'm gonna wait for the game to see it. I don't want to spoil it!!!
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[Ryo88]

the trailer was pretty cool and i love the music in the background... ^^

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[Fayore]

Since this is the only recent KH-related thread, I thought I might as well chat about KH in this one. :B

As some of you may be aware, I ended up borrowing both KH and KH2 from a couple friends. I mostly just want to get to KH2 because I was stunned by the OP, but I swore I wouldn't touch it until I've finished the first one.

And boy, do I have such a love-hate relationship with this game. I guess since I'm an "Indie Gamer, with the power to import," I can prattle on about RPGs that are, in my opinion, just [i]better[/i] in general and no one would know what the hell I was talking about nor give a damn, I can say this... :/

Anyway. Why can't I see how so many people (quite a lot of people on FAC, actually, that I've noticed) love this game so much? Let's find out. 8D

The first thing on my hate-list is the camera. It sucks, period. It keeps getting stuck (wth? I was in the Coliseum doing the barrel thing and it kept getting stuck behind those pillars DX) and it really irritates me that it has a limited view; if there's a wall or something behind you that's blocking the movement of the camera, it's simply will not go through it. I've had so much trouble with some platform stuff in the earlier levels because I didn't have other skills like that extended jump, so it took me ages to complete some of the tasks. They were obviously doable, but quite difficult because the camera just wouldn't go behind me so I could get a clear, straight view. DX

But I'll reciprocate with something I like about it. The voice acting is absolutely wonderful. It's Disney, so that's almost predictable. Square-Enix usually doesn't do so well in that department (why hello there, FFX), so I'm pleased.

Next: the fact that you can't change the controls. Most people might overlook this (and I'm sure it's not important to most of you), but it's actually something quite necessary for me to enjoy the game. It's because I play a lot of Japanese games, and they usually have the circle button as confirm, and the x button as cancel (this is because circle signifies "correctness" in things while x is the opposite, as in our culture, as some of you may remember from school). Most NA games have switched these two buttons around as I suppose x is more of a "bullseye" thing while the circle signifies a miss. :/ And since I was playing SNEX before KH, I still automatically hit circle for confirm and x for cancel - causing a problem with KH, as you can imagine. 8D Ordinarily I'd just change the controls, but KH doesn't allow that. Even though I'm 25h into the game, I still haven't gotten the hang of it, and it's been a bit bothersome for some battles. Run up to the enemy, attack -- oh what, I just jumped! DX

That carries on to other things, too. I'm in the underwater world with Ariel (haha, forgot the name of the place already... what can I say? I've never seen the movie in its entirety), and the controls for swimming is driving me absolutely [i]nuts[/i]. It would have been better if they set it up like the gummi ship controls/flight sim game controls - left joystick for manuvering up/down/left/right, and hold down a button for moving forwards. Since x is for attacking, they could have used, I dunno, triangle for excelerate (that button seems to be ignored for most of the game, anyway). Or even o because jumping isn't an issue in this world. :|

Which brings me to the battle menu. What, I have to stop mashing the x button for a moment to scroll over to the skill command? What about items? And let's not forget spells that aren't on my quick list. No. Just... no. It throws me out of the rhythm of the battle, and I end up getting attacked while going through the menus. Having to move away from the battle site just irritates me because that means I'll have to run back into it once my business is done, or, more horrifying, the enemy'll chase me! (Pegasus Cup, Leon and Yuffie. No. DX) Especially when I'm casting spells; I keep getting interrupted in the middle of them. It's been so bothersome just to heal myself (70% chance I get interrupted) that I've just bought 50+ Potions and gave them all to Donald and Goofy. :|

I really prefer the battle controls of SNEX more. Much more quick and simple. L2 for switching between Leon/Ainna, L1/R1 for scrolling though the summons, R2 for cancelling a summon, triangle to use an auto item (or hit start to enter the menu to manually grab an item; don't need to worry about getting attacked while going through the stuff) square to summon, circle for attacking and x to jump. :X Nice, simple, and fast. That's the good stuff right there. (y)

Mmm. The music is okay. Nothing really memorable (although the piano in the new game/load screen is quite nice) so far, though. Most of it's just arranged/remixed/whatever version of the old movie themes. We'll see. Doubt I'd be buying this soundtrack, though. :/ Kind of odd because Disney usually has a nice soundtrack. The opening song ("Simple and Clean", Utada Hikaru...?) is okay, but not very appealing to me. It wasn't particularly well coordinated with the op movie, either, imo.

The character designs for Sora/Riku/Kairi are decent, but kinda... out of place, if you know what I mean. Most of the [Disney] characters are rather cartoony and comical in appearance, so this sudden whack of anime-looking characters kinda bothers me. :/ Even most of the FF characters don't have such an obvious anime feel to them. :s Not really a fault, but just... weird.

The Disney characters are great, though. I'm glad that most of the characters have been limited to the "classic" Disney as the newer Disney movies haven't been very stellar. :/ It's making me want to rewatch my old Disney movies. Simba was the original "bishounen." And I love seeing Donald. I miss that voice of his. :B <3 Such a spaz. xD

So I've sort of been playing this game on/off. I get tired of it easily, but I pull myself along just so I can hit up KH2. XD Besides, I love seeing all these old childhood loves. Even though that novelty sort of wears off once I've been running around in the same level for over an hour or two.
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[Stratadrake]

I never had any serious problems with the camera in Kingdom Hearts. A few glitches here and there, but those were generally resolved by getting out in the open (or airborne).

[quote]Next: the fact that you can't change the controls ... Most NA games have switched these two buttons around as I suppose x is more of a "bullseye" thing while the circle signifies a miss. :/ And since I was playing SNEX before KH, I still automatically hit circle for confirm and x for cancel - causing a problem with KH, as you can imagine.[/quote]
Doesn't bother me -- I learned to play both ways back in the days of SNES, with games ranging from Mario to Final Fantasy (FF3 had the Japanese style setup)

[quote]What, I have to stop mashing the x button for a moment to scroll over to the skill command?[/quote]
Yes. But considering how a lot of real-time RPG designs require some sort of charge time for spells, perhaps the menu system is a balancer -- and you can still play defense. You don't have to stand there like a dummy, right?
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[Fayore]

I swear the camera is trying to stop me from completion of the game or something. 8D I have to switch to first person view relatively often because third person has so many issues... not much help in battles and such, though. Then I just have to lock onto an enemy and avoid the bloody walls/corners to prevent the camera from eating itself. But that wasn't much help when fighting in cramped conditions. Ah, good ol' Monstro... :B

But the absolute worse was in the second leg of the Trials in Olympus, with the "crush 25 barrels in one minute!" thing. On the ground, around the right side, there's three pillars set up like a wall. And everytime I "slipped" past it (hey, it's timed, can you blame me?), the camera wouldn't follow very closely and kept getting caught [i]behind[/i] the pillars rather than going around them with me. ;-; The resulted in a good many [s]results[/s] retries of that event. (I should proofread my own garbage more often. :] )And after that happened more than once, I've had to give the pillars a wide berth when going around them. Resulting a the loss of a bit of precious time. DX (Of course, with my luck, I ended up beating it through a fluke [s]go shrapnel!![/s] and ended up with 14-15 [i]seconds[/i] left over. Kinda aggravating in a way for someone who's kept running out of time by a second or so, though. 8D

And defense? Hah, I'm a lazy one so I usually up the defense so high, I can take to stand a couple hits or so. It's the fact that I still have to take those hits that bothers me, though. Or I just leave Donald and Goofy to fool around. They're negligible, anyway. But unless you're referring to the rolling bit, I have no idea what you mean by "playing defense". :>

Besides, KH still does have that charge time. :s I've been interrupted so many times before. Like in the Pegasus Cup; I try to heal some one but it appears that Leon can cast his Fire spell faster than I can cast Cure. :s I guess I'll just have to deal with this, though. But boy, do I ever dislike that menu. :X I think it's the magic list that gets ignored the most, particularly the summons (I haven't used them at all outside of Merlin's place 8D).
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[Stratadrake]

That's no Fire spell Leon shoots at you... that's his Gunblade! :o

However, just about every projectile attack in Kingdom Hearts can be blocked or deflected with a timed strike. You can generally also Dodge Roll out of the way.

Also, the Guard skill can deflect projectile attacks too -- it's much easier than a timed counterstrike. ;)

One of Kingdom Hearts's secret arena bosses actually cannot be defeated at all without deflecting against his projectiles ... and another optional boss will simply murder you if you haven't mastered your Dodge Roll.

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[Pyrodragon125]

Besides the camera issue, I haven't had any of those problems with the game. And the camera wasn't all that big of a problem anyway...

I switch from FFX to KH to FFVII and all it takes is the first 5 minutes to get me used to the controls. A true gamer is not bothered by a change in controls, it simply signifies they can adapt in certain situations.

[quote]That's no Fire spell Leon shoots at you... that's his Gunblade!
[/quote]
Actually....his gunblade is only used when he slices at you. It is a fire spell.

And as for defense....
You stay away from their main attacks while you heal (for Leon, kill off Yuffie and just heal on the opposite end of the arena)
There are ALWAYS semi-safe places in every boss battle. Always. Except maybe in that one part of the final boss......which was also the hardest part to me....

All in all the game is too easy for any of these things to affect you. The camera can be an annoyance, but like the controls, just get used to when it would usually be a bitch. ADAPT or die.

[LefseNinja]

[quote="Pyrodragon125 (Matt)"] Besides the camera issue, I haven't had any of those problems with the game. And the camera wasn't all that big of a problem anyway...

I switch from FFX to KH to FFVII and all it takes is the first 5 minutes to get me used to the controls. A true gamer is not bothered by a change in controls, it simply signifies they can adapt in certain situations.

[quote]That's no Fire spell Leon shoots at you... that's his Gunblade!
[/quote]
Actually....his gunblade is only used when he slices at you. It is a fire spell. [/quote]
I thought it was Leon firing his gunblade at you?

Anyway, I never really had much of a problem with the camera. It did get a little wonky sometimes, but it wasn't bad enough to stop me from completing anything.

I did have the same little problem with the contrals. After I'd been playing FFVII for a while and then switched to KH, I would keep pressing circle to select and then Sora would be jumping all over the place. It was the same when I switched back to FFVII, too. I would push X to try and select something and then it would cancel and then I'd be like "What the crap?...oh."

[Fayore]

I honestly think it's a fire spell. Besides, how would a gunblade work, anyway? It never shot anything in FFVIII... Something tells me that the laws of physics would implode or something if he shot that thing. :B Maybe the knifey bit would fall off. :B

In regards to the controls, Matt, I don't believe that any of the examples you've given holds much water because they're all NA releases you're referring to, right? And they're all developed and localized byt the same company. In the x/o issue, I believe they should all have the same controls. :s

Besides, it's not so much "adaptation" but "habit". :] 30h of hitting o for confirm will do stuff to you. Really. :] The issue is not adapting to new controls, but breaking the habits of old ones.

Actually, the Leon/Yuffie battle wasn't too difficult in that I couldn't beat them. :X It was difficult in that it took me two tries. 8D Yuffie's shuriken weren't too much of a problem because I just got her into a corner and beat the bajeezus outta her (kinda like I did with Selphie on Destiny Island). The problem was doing that and avoiding Leon's attacks at the same time. 8D

Guard skill, eh? Sounds pretty useful, but I don't have it (yet?). In the beginning, I chose Sword, drop Magic. :s And I'm only ~level 30 or so...
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[Pyrodragon125]

[quote]I honestly think it's a fire spell. Besides, how would a gunblade work, anyway? It never shot anything in FFVIII... Something tells me that the laws of physics would implode or something if he shot that thing. :B Maybe the knifey bit would fall off. :B[/quote]
Actually you can shoot it everytime you use a regular attack. It even tells you to. Don't you hear the gunshot sound it makes everytime you do a critical hit?.....
And I might be wrong. In the stadium he could be using his gunblade, now that I think about it. I only said it was a fire spell because I remember dying to one back the first time you meet him in Traverse Town.(fighting style would most likely be the same, right? )
[quote]In regards to the controls, Matt, I don't believe that any of the examples you've given holds much water because they're all NA releases you're referring to, right? And they're all developed and localized byt the same company. In the x/o issue, I believe they should all have the same controls. :s[/quote]
They were just a couple examples. If you really think those are the only games I play that's pretty sad... There's also Star Ocean 3, various fighting games, Shadow Hearts, not to mention playing Xbox/(360) games making me move thumbs in new ways constantly. Better now?
[quote]Besides, it's not so much "adaptation" but "habit". :] 30h of hitting o for confirm will do stuff to you. Really. :] The issue is not adapting to new controls, but breaking the habits of old ones.
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.......I lol'd.
[quote]adapt
verb adapted, adapting

1. To change something, oneself, etc so as to fit new circumstances, etc; to make something suitable for a new purpose.

Thesaurus: conform, adjust, accommodate, alter, [b]habituate[/b], acclimatize, harmonize, change.
2. To alter or modify something.

Thesaurus: modify, adjust, reshape, alter, refashion, change.[/quote]
Same thing, still stands.
[quote]Guard skill, eh? Sounds pretty useful, but I don't have it (yet?). In the beginning, I chose Sword, drop Magic. :s And I'm only ~level 30 or so... [/quote]
I never used it. What world are you in anyway? That level seems kinda low, but then again I was only level 55 last time around. I didn't spend time finding everything so that was pretty much -10 levels from the first time I beat it.

[Fayore]

[quote="Pyrodragon125 (Matt)"] Actually you can shoot it everytime you use a regular attack. It even tells you to. Don't you hear the gunshot sound it makes everytime you do a critical hit?..... [/quote]
Oh, really? That was a gunshot? Haha... :lol:

Thesauri, fail. They never work for stuff like this because while the words have a similar meaning, the connotation of the words are quite different. 8D

"Just a couple examples"? Indeed. I said, "the examples you supplied..." - I did not mention anything about what kind of games I thought you played.

Do try a little harder. Comprehensive reading isn't so difficult; most people have been doing it since fifth grade. 8D

habituate - "To accustom by frequent repetition or prolonged exposure." Your "five minutes" does not consist of "frequent repitition" (unless the first five minutes of FFVII consists of mad button mashing, which I don't remember 8D) nor "prolonged exposure" - how can it be prolonged if it's only for five minutes? 8D

"adapt" is a much broader term and doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "habituate". Adaptation has no specific time nor circumstance of which "adaptation" is developed. "Habituate" does. They are not the same things. :>

The thesaurus is almost useless when discussing specific words and their meanings, mate. *thumbs up* We try to avoid using it unless you're like me and you need it to paraphrase stuff in translations. :] And even then it needs careful usage - most intermediate writers can tell when people have been using the thesaurus because [i]they're not using the words correctly or using it in the wrong context.[/i] :3

Let's not discuss words here. You're talking to someone who maintained 100% on documents in English 12 where all I did was pick apart words. :] But let's not get into a fight here. 8D

As for my level, I'm in Atlanti...ca? The stuff with Ariel. :B It's dull and I hate how they set up the controls for swimming. They could have done it much better.
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[quote]Guard skill, eh?[/quote]
Level-up skill. If you chose the Shield, you learn it at Lv.9.
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[Fayore]

That... would be really useful. XD But I think I prefer having my insanely high att power, though. XD


...lmao. Donald has higher attack power than Goofy, and he's a [i]mage[/i]. 8D
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