How Do You Get To Wonderland?

VincentValentine13 · Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject:

Well, in the game, the Duchess was a boss. The thing I don't understand is, who is to be feared, The Queen of Hearts or The Red Queen? See, in the book, the Red Queen was pretty nice, but I think they made her the boss in American McGee's Alice...how peculiar. Not to mention that the Red Queen never beheaded anyone, but she stills als for Alice to be beheaded in the game.
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Orlando_Hamar · Very bored Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 120

Well...in the game, The Queen of Hearts is called the Red Queen also.
Does the Red Queen appear in Alice? All I remember is the king. (I am, of course, here refering to the chess pieces)
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Gothic_Cerberus · Rookie Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 28

I thought the Red Queen was actually pretty nice,but kinda pretending so i think the queen of hearts was scarier....

theWriter · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

[quote]The Walrus and the Carpenter are usually interpreted as being a story about the Christian church (the carpenter representing Christ/church, the clams the people eager to be duped).
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lol. Whenever I think of the Walrus and the Carpenter, Dogma and religon come to mind.

[b]Nun:[/b] You don't believe in God because of Alice in Wonderland?

[b]Loki:[/b] No, "Through the Looking Glass". That poem, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" that's an indictment of organized religion. The walrus, with his girth and his good nature, he obviously represents either Buddha, or... or with his tusk, the Hindu elephant god, Lord Ganesha. That takes care of your Eastern religions. Now the carpenter, which is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ, who was raised a carpenter's son, he represents the Western religions. Now in the poem, what do they do... what do they do? They... They dupe all these oysters into following them and then proceed to shuck and devour the helpless creatures en masse. I don't know what that says to you, but to me it says that following these faiths based on mythological figures ensure the destruction of one's inner-being. Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions... by inhibiting our decisions, out of... out of fear of some... some intangible parent figure who... who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says... and says, "Do it - Do it and I'll fuckin' spank you. "
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mevv · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:59 am Post subject:

You thought that one out real well. To me it doesn't matter about religion. I think the clams were gulable and got eaten because of it. The moral I got out of it is not to be so trusing of everyone around you, especialy a hungrey walrus. But one can never know? :wacko:
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VincentValentine13 · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:05 am Post subject:

The Red Queen was in through the Looking Glass. She told Alice how to become a queen, and she ended up becoming the kitten(Dinah's Kitten) when Alice woke up again.

As for Writer, that is really thought out, though I think I've heard of that before. Yeah, it sounds really familiar. Still, I think the story has a very good moral to it, "If you're an oyster that is..."

Speaking of oysters, any ideas about the Tweedles? I know they were a poem, so do you think that Lewis Carroll just put them in, like he did Humpty Dumpty.
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mevv · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:13 am Post subject:

I can't remember what that poem was about but yes I do think it was just put in. It seemed like the auther put in any poem well known at the time to make it some what random. But perhaps there was a reason for the madness, I don't know.
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theWriter · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:16 am Post subject:

[quote]As for Writer, that is really thought out, though I think I've heard of that before. Yeah, it sounds really familiar. Still, I think the story has a very good moral to it, "If you're an oyster that is..."[/quote]

:lol: Thanks, but that wasn't me. It's a quote from the movie [i]Dogma[/i].
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VincentValentine13 · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:33 am Post subject:

^_^ Right Right Right! You wrote that in the post! Laughing

Silly me! That was a most peculiar thing to overlook!
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