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ill_masta Newb

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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Revolution all the way! If Nintendo followed up just as Microsoft and Sony are doing, the video games industry would crash again. We're reaching a point where graphics will be unable to get any better. I mean, compare the 360 to origional XBox. The graphics just dont look "next-gen" to me. Think of the jump from Atari to the NES, and compare that to the XBox and the 360. The way games will have to change is how they are played, and Nintendo has realized this. And don't go saying that the Revo controller is a gimmick, because thats what people said about the DS, and now look at it. I bought my DS the day it came out in 2004 and have never regretted it once. If the Revo is half as good as DS I will be happy. |
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grimfairy Still very bored

Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 300
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I chose Revolution because I know that there will be games I will play on it and enjoy greatly. Of course, I'll also happily enjoy PS2 games. However, not interested in the 360. Seen it. Not wowed by it. Considering some of the interesting storied I've heard about the 360 (oh you know, just that when a store my friend worked out turned it on the TVs around it all turned green and the registers started to mess up because of it), no thanks. So, I'll take a PS3 and a Revolution. I simply voted for Revolution here because it is innovative. Even if you think it will be gay, you have to admit the innovation. But yea. The end. |
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Kaiser_Envoy_of_The_End Has No Life

Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 625 Location: The Russian Federation
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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PS3, it was either that or the Revelution, I don't care much for X-box. _________________ [img]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e242/kaiser_inc/bryandanielson04-1.jpg[/img]
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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If you consider games like Prince of Persia: Sands of Time or Shadow of the Colossus as example, game graphics are already as realistic as they "need" to be for the player. Trying to make it any more realistic than that is merely an esoteric endeavor.
One of the recent gaming mags had an article about the 'Uncanny Valley' of videogame graphics. "Hey, this game has uber-realistic graphics... no, wait, those leaves aren't animating properly, that guy's moving around like his legs are made of wood, these monsters look too rubbery...."
Basically, it's at the threshold where instead of noticing the parts which [i]are[/i] realistic, you've become so acclimated to realistic graphics that you start noticing the parts (e.g., gameplay) which [b]aren't[/b] realistic.
Graphical realism could go on for another generation, but... what about the gameplay? The immersion?
Nintendo's Rev may seem like a "budget" console compared to the PS3 or 360, but... the 'Cube was already plenty powerful enough for its in-game eye candy, Nintendo knows that better specs alone aren't good enough, so they're selling it on a whole new way to actually [i]play[/i] the games.
Mario Kart Revolution? All those years of 'leaning' that old SNES controller into your turns will finally pay off. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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infurno How can I get a custom title thing?

Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 873 Location: 1 of the 10,000 lakes.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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My vote goes to PS3.
but I don't really want one of them.
Xbox2 it's supporting Gates.
PS3 messed up the perfict perfict remote.
and the Revo's remote is totaly messed up.
I miss the Dualshock 2 _________________ [center][img]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/infurnoASH/TrailblazerChevy34.gif[/img][/center] |
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firewingneko Forum contributor

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say Revo and PS3. X-box, bah.
PS3 because there are lots of RPG and the graphics are pretty good but since I already have a PS2, I probably would buy a Revo.
I like the controler for the Revo but the little problem is that waving your arm around all the time probably doesn't allow you to play for a long time because it surely will become painfull after a while. It's easier to play with your controler on your lap.
If would be possible, I'd just take both. Simple as that. No head banging to know which to buy that way _________________ I know, my sig sucks. So what? |
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Fayore Moderator

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="infurno (scott)"] Xbox2 it's supporting Gates. [/quote]
And why the f**k does that matter whether you buy a console or not? :huh:
EDIT: XBox360*, btw. _________________ [url=http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=15636][img]http://vdexproject.net/p/15636/trainer.png[/img]
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="infurno (scott)"] Xbox2 it's supporting Gates.
PS3 messed up the perfict perfict remote.
and the Revo's remote is totaly messed up.
I miss the Dualshock 2 [/quote]
Meaning what? Why is Gates always seen as a bad guy? He isn't. He and Jobs fucking [i]created [/i]the very lifestyle you take for granted. If they never were, who knows? Maybe computers would still the stuff of weekend hobbyists and techies.
Doubtful, but still.
Hate towards the Xbox is mostly just herd-mentality bandwagon ignorance.
Also, the PS controller is just average, at best. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Fayore Moderator

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I personally don't see why people are wanking about controller designs when they haven't even touched it or tried it out or anything. I actually reserve judgement on something till I've tried it first-hand; why does that seem to be something incredibly difficult to a lot of people on this board? Honestly... <<;
I've already mentioned that I'd take the PS3 over the others just for the sheer ease of importing. Nintendo's a second because they have decent party games that usually suit most people's tastes, especially since it's geared towards younger gamers. Whoever does the casting for voice actors should be replaced, though. XBox looks kinda hot, but I just haven't heard of too many titles for it that that I'd be interested in. Wouldn't mind trying it out, though.
And I'll never understand all the apparent hate on Gates. Are people just jealous of his immense wealth or something? How lame. _________________ [url=http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=15636][img]http://vdexproject.net/p/15636/trainer.png[/img]
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LunaticCrow Elder In Training

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 3817 Location: up Fayore's skirt, riding in her catbus ;D
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Fayore (魔王ア"]And I'll never understand all the apparent hate on Gates. Are people just jealous of his immense wealth or something? How lame.[/quote]
It's because the cool thing is to hate on Microsoft and everything related to it for no valid reason. :v They obviously know what they're doing in the way of an Operating System, but that doesn't change the fact that I and many others would rather play a different game console. FPS and the Occasional Hack and Slash Dungeon Crawler? No thanks, I'd rather play my "kids games". And before anyone adds anything more about "Japan haet microsoft " keep in mind that Japan LIVES on the Windows OS.
Who cares about the controllers? The Nintendo Revolution has a shell for their controllers based off of the GC's, PS3 hasn't changed much and Neither has the XBOX360. I'd rather bite into the meat (Games) of things rather than obsess over such trivial things that generally don't matter to a casual gamer (Specs, Controller Design). I'd rather have a Revolution Because Nintendo tends to have the most appealing games to me. And like Fayore said, the easy importing of the PS3 is definetly a Purchase Turn on. _________________ [img]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/lunaticcrow/goodnight.jpg[/img] |
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2725
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ill_masta (Alex)"] Revolution all the way! If Nintendo followed up just as Microsoft and Sony are doing, the video games industry would crash again. We're reaching a point where graphics will be unable to get any better. I mean, compare the 360 to origional XBox. The graphics just dont look "next-gen" to me. Think of the jump from Atari to the NES, and compare that to the XBox and the 360. [/quote]
I disagree. I need to ask you a question: Have you actually [i]played [/i]any of these games yet? The 360 is doing things the original Xbox could only dream about. Yes, the new Ghost Recon has graphics only slightly better than Halo 2. However, there is no graphical lag in Ghost Recon, everything runs smoothly, where in Halo two you would sometimes see the low-res skins even when up close to a model. The animations are great, the most realistic movements I have yet seen in any game. The AI is nothing to turn your nose up to either.
Also, have you seen the new Killzone for PS3? If it can do what Sony is claiming it can do, then we are looking at in game renderings that rival films such as Spirits Within and the Animatrix: Final Flight of the Osiris. None of the current gen systems could even hope for that.
You cant base your judgments on still images, because those images dont relay the capabilities that these consoles possess. Yes, right now the graphics are only slightly better, but your clamoring is that of a spoiled child who doesnt see the long term results and simply wants it now, now, now! I say by the end of two years time the capabilities of these next gen consoles will make our current lineup look like something from the Stone Age.
Oh, and I'm not sure if Fayore was responding to me, but I was saying that I was unimpressed with the controller for the PS2. I'm still holding judgment for the PS3 controller when I actually get one in my hands. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Sephir0th666777 Elder In Training

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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The PS3 controller looked like some weapon from a Sci-Fi movie. _________________ [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Sephir0th666777/mercy.jpg[/img]
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but how does it feel in your hands? How does it [i]play[/i]? God, this is the problem, right here. The original Xbox controller received unprecedented backlash because of its size. People said it was too big. But how many of you know that the "Duke" is just as wide as the PS2 Duel Shock? Or that the triggers are located in basically the same place as the PS2's shoulder buttons? The major difference is in the location of the analogue sticks and button placements. And the "Duke" actually has a more ergonomic design than the Dual Shock. It's better for your hands. The button placement comfortably fits your thumbs natural movements, and the whole controller contours to your palm.
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Fayore Moderator

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="VR_Jay (Will)"] Oh, and I'm not sure if Fayore was responding to me, but I was saying that I was unimpressed with the controller for the PS2. I'm still holding judgment for the PS3 controller when I actually get one in my hands. [/quote]
Nah, it was just a general statement. If directed at anyone, it would be that kid who hates on Gates for no apparent reason. How the f**k can you declare something is better than something else when you've only tried one of them? It's like saying that crap tastes better than pasta just because you've eaten s**t before, but not lasagna. _________________ [url=http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=15636][img]http://vdexproject.net/p/15636/trainer.png[/img]
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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[b]QUOTE[/b] (infurno) | and the Revo's remote is totaly messed up.[/quote]
I take it you don't have a DS, eh? People thought the touch-screen was a gimmicky and stupid feature, but... look at some of the games they make with it. Trauma Center, Meteos, Nintendogs (just to name a few) make [i]excellent[/i] use of the touch screen, in ways that a standard D-pad and buttons are simply unable to compare against. It's like trying to compare your mouse to your keyboard.
Some ergonomic sacrifices must be made to have a controller that you can easily use in both hands. It's designed to look like a TV remote [i]on purpose[/i], as a way to expand the market by luring closer the people who are turned off by the traditional two-handed, "all thumbs" (think about it...) controller design.
360 is just another lap around the same old track, and so's the PS3. Where' the "wow" factor gone these days, and why do (why [i]should[/i]) we need a plasma HDTV to even notice it at all? _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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VR_Jay Very Oldbie

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't talking about the Revolution's controller. I am actually looking forward to using it. Can't wait to see how it plays. _________________ [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/Anti_Commecial_Banners_by_Nevar530.jpg[/img] [img]http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/VR_Jay/th_myvsweetkiss1xc.gif[/img]
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Me too. I don't know how Nintendo plans on using it in, say, SSB3, but the whole idea of the motion-sensing controller is just... uber "wow" factor _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Didsy Very bored

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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im rutin' for the revolution, though the pads are sort of a kick in the shin! its said that it will be released with twilight princess (though that is for the cube :huh: ), the new ssbros is gona be great though, anyone know the proper name for it yet? _________________ [img]http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/2717/kaollaaaxt6.jpg[/img] |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Twilight Princess's release period has been moved again, much nearer to the Revolution's launch date.
News about possible Revolution specs estimate it the console being twice as technically powerful as the GameCube (which is still just a smidge under the original X-Box). Some people are complaining that it's going to be "weak" compared to the other consoles, but given artistic masterpieces like RE4 or Twilight Princess's visuals, which are already visually stunning, can you imagine something looking twice as good as even that?
Tech specs won't win the "new generation" console war at all.
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Sgt_Cooper_Hoorah Still very bored

Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 270
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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PS3...Xbox360?...why bother...most of the games for the 360 are gonna be remade for the revolution or the the PS3...so why waste ur money on that....
When you can get the same game with better control and graphics...but that's just me.
Only reason im not with nitindo is because...i've never really cared for their games... i guess...though i do wanna try out those lil' funky controllers.
Only Neg. thing i can say about the PS3...I HATE THAT FUKIN CONTROLLER/BOOMERANG/WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCKTION Design...thingy... (Didnt bother reading previous posts...too tired..heads up if i stated sumtine previously said) <_< |
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