What Exactly "does" Make Anime Anime?

AquaVirtaeDraco · Rookie Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 41

Or maybe its because it was drawn by asian hands?NO, cuz I'm asian so...o_O could I draw a comic and call it manga? Or, would it have to be called American comics? Even if I drew it in a kinda anime form?, but look at MegasXLR it was kinda drawn like anime but yet it was made in America so does it even count as anime or do we just make a new genre called American anime?

Brianhjh · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:57 am Post subject:

In Japan, everything animated is "Anime"

in pretty much everywhere else, Anime is Japanese-made animation.

Manga is pretty much the same thing.
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AquaVirtaeDraco · Rookie Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 41

[quote="Brianhjh (Moon Ki)"] In Japan, everything animated is "Anime"

in pretty much everywhere else, Anime is Japanese-made animation.

Manga is pretty much the same thing. [/quote]
you make it seem so simple...o_O

but what if you were Japanese and lived in America and drew a manga?

simply could an American make anime?Or does it defy some unwritten law..

Brianhjh · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:07 am Post subject:

you can call everything "anime" you just need a backing of the people.

Sure, you can classify something American drew in Japan as Anime, but will the people agree with you?

Definition entirely depends on the general assumption of many people.

If I (Korean) went to Japan as a toddler, became a neutralized citizen (difficult) and drew in typical manga style, it'll probably be defined as manga by most Westerners, since most of them can't tell Asian countries apart/don't care as long as it's from the same region.

If an American child living in Japan (military base) did the same thing, "sadly", probably not.

However, I know a French artist who went to Japan in his early 20's and invented an entire genre called "Nouveau-Manga", no one will dispute that it is not "Nouveau Manga" because he defined the term.
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LunaticCrow · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Even if you were to learn the language "perfectly" and-by an extremely small chance-Get your manga published/Anime produced, There's probably little chance it'd be accepted as "*Real* anime/manga"(lol, that brings back memories) by the general public. You'd probably just be Considered Super-Gaijin (Christopher Hart comes to mind) and nobody would care.

Tom and Jerry is my favorite anime.
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Brianhjh · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject:

I wish Kurisutofa Haruto would die.
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LefseNinja · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject:

Heh, Super Gaijin. Pretty good description.
His books are somewhat helpful, though.

Ogrim_Doomhammer · Oldbie Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2116

Anime is cartoons that come from Japan, doesn't matter who made it.....
Manga is comic books from japan, doesn't matter who made it.....
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The_Stef · Forum Scalleywag Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 961

I personally consider something is an anime (at least in my own mind) if it FEELS like an anime, not really the animation style, because there are so many different anime and manga styles. Anime and manga just have a certain feel. Like, to me, OEL manga is still manga even though it came from America.

i know many people who disagree, though... it's just a matter of opinion, I guess.

AquaVirtaeDraco · Rookie Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 41

[quote="Brianhjh (Moon Ki)"] you can call everything "anime" you just need a backing of the people.

Sure, you can classify something American drew in Japan as Anime, but will the people agree with you?

Definition entirely depends on the general assumption of many people.

If I (Korean) went to Japan as a toddler, became a neutralized citizen (difficult) and drew in typical manga style, it'll probably be defined as manga by most Westerners, since most of them can't tell Asian countries apart/don't care as long as it's from the same region.

If an American child living in Japan (military base) did the same thing, "sadly", probably not.

However, I know a French artist who went to Japan in his early 20's and invented an entire genre called "Nouveau-Manga", no one will dispute that it is not "Nouveau Manga" because he defined the term. [/quote]
off topic:ah, I'm Korean too.

hm, I guess I agree with that, but I also agree with the Stef. Although that seems kinda stupid like a "use the force" or something thing or else I would have said that earlier too.(but when I was typing it it just sounded ...dumb...)
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Pabbit_da_Rabbit · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:

[quote="AquaVirtaeDraco (lady Jane)"] I think we live in a sterotypical world Very Happy

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Indeed

Anime/manga...open to interpretation because not everyone will agree on one thing. It's practically impossible. Since Japan coined the terms, should we let the Japanese define the specifics of it? Lets check Wikipedia!

.:edit:. Went to wikipedia and here's an excerpt:
"Anime features a wide variety of artistic styles which vary from artist to artist and is characterized by stark, colorful graphics and stylized, colorful images depicting vibrant characters in a variety of different settings and storylines, aimed at a wide range of audiences."
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KingdomHeartShera · Very bored Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 225

Well, it depends. Teen Titans has some anime-ish look to it, but you know it's an american cartoon because of its characters. I agree with The_Stef, though: I consider anime and manga anime and manga if they feel [i][b]like [/b][/i]it. Some real-action TV shows (especially on Sci-fi) feel like they should be anime, despite the fact that it's real action and real actors. Now that I think of it . . . the guy who created anime was inspired by Disney, so should we be considering a lot of things from over here anime? O.O;; Makes you think. XD

ChocolateCappuccino · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject:

Manga and anime are still just comics and cartoons. Outside of Japan we call them manga and anime because they come from Japan (dont know how they see things in Japan). So I personally dont think that anything made outside of Japan is manga or anime. And whats wrong with calling an anime inspired cartoon a cartoon? Theres nothing wrong with cartoons. Ive stumbled across several online-comic artists who actually felt offended when you called their comic a comic. Like I draw MANGA not silly COMICS STFU BITCH!!!11!1
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The_Stef · Forum Scalleywag Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 961

Wellgenerally speaking, if you say comic, most people more of a Calvin and Hobbes, Garfield type thing. If it's a manga type comic that was originally written in English, I'd call it an OEL manga, but as long as it feels like manga, I'd still call it manga. Generally, I myself think of anime as a cartoon in te anime style that has a plot, one that you couldn't just watch casually to understand fully.

Like, I wouldn't consider Teen Titans an anime because I can just watch one episode and entirely understand, the adventure starts and ends in that same episode. Sure, there are a few plot defining moments (usually including Raven and a prophecy and her father) but it still usually starts and ends in the same episode, and I don't have to have watched other episodes to understand.

Same with Spongebob Squarepants. I don't think a single person would consider that anime, but basically the same rules apply as of the Teen Titans example I gave above. Not really a plot exactly, but like having Sandy come down into the ocean. She doesn't go away at the end, and it does affect the other episodes, but you could miss that particular episode and still understand.

So yeah. That's what I think. The only exception to this rule in my mind would be Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But i don't even think regular viewers understand that show. . . . .

ChocolateCappuccino · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:58 am Post subject:

Well, I guess I may see things differently from all of you since in Sweden we call all comics, no matter the format, "serier". Everyone seem to be quite aware over here that a manga is a "serie" made in Japan.

But now I have to ask... if people only refer to comics drawn in the format of Calvin and Hobbes as comics... what do you call things like the X-men and Sandman. Those sure aren't manga. Do you refer to them as "pre-manga-wave manga-like but-still-not-manga manga" or something? (Yes, I know, I'm being silly. But I really want to know.)
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The_Stef · Forum Scalleywag Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 961

Comic books.

I just realized how stupid that sounds.

Drakedragon · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject:

I agree with The_Stef on the whole 'it feels like manga/anime' thing. It's unfortunate, that alot of people at my school don't see 'anime' when they watch anime. They just see 'oh it's not real people so it's all silly cartoons' and that irks my nerves sometimes.

The only people at my school that aren't like that, are the actual anime/manga fans. Ignorance is bliss I guess...

[quote]Ive stumbled across several online-comic artists who actually felt offended when you called their comic a comic. Like I draw MANGA not silly COMICS STFU BITCH!!!11!1 [/quote]

And that's what they call over-reacting. Now if the person made a rude comment, perhaps a bit too far, but not too far off. If it were just a simple, no-offense-meant-backhanded comment, I would have to say, yeah that's overreacting.

The 'STFU BITCH' is a tad bit unnecessary...

anime-junkie · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:54 am Post subject:

i rekon that what sorta makes anime, is things that appeal to people. like take inu yasha for exsample, lots of people love it because they think it has a good story line, even though the animation is terrible. one piece doesnt really look like an anime. cow boy bebop would appeal to most sci-fi junkies, so that makes a good anime.
its just what people like about it, that mostly makes anime
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DarkNightWolf · Rookie Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 28

What might make anime anime is the rules that are followed:

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~duongsaa/more_htm/...0animeRules.htm
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samuri_kid · Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:

I think "anime" is just a variation of what people want to draw like rude, sexy, violence, sexual, racsism and so on and forth but it doesn't need to be in [u]total[/u] detailed oiled paintings like van gogh or Mattise (or whatever his name is).

[color=green][b]SOOOO Anime is just a simple detailed drawn technique in a cartoon format.[/b][/color] Confused

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