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ragingflea002
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if they count it as harrassment. Courts don't give a s**t about opinions anymore. If the harrassment is unnecessarily continuous, they will find a way to prosecute you. They file the charges according to the level of harrassment and how many people and/or comments have been harrassed or have contained harrassment. This is NOT a joke. They do know your IP address, which is enough to find the server you use and your home address. Technology sucks, huh?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, well, that depends how Denis reacts to your behavior. Raymei only does her job, and she wasn't the one who banned your friend. Denis receives the complaints and processes them accordingly.

By the way, I'm male, and I do skate occasionally, although I stick to mountain biking and NJROTC activities. I have rifle training tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you get sued? If you mean the boy that made that one topic and spammed it up, I suspended him. I doubt we would sue anyone on here... we'd just ban them O.o
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, you could if it's excessive harrassment... We need to get Lasher on here, she knows. Usually, though, if it's just a site, you'll be banned from it. But if you are constantly e-mailing someone, sort of e-stalking them and harrassing them that way, or maybe asking someone for nude pictures and harrassing them like that, then yes, I do believe you could be sued or even in more trouble than just being sued.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh.. sure, a poser? Whatever. Either way, if she tells you to stop, you'd better. She, myself, and others are this thing called 'site helpers' and if we know you're stealing art or flamming pictures, we[b][i] can and will[/i][/b] ban you.
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fallenangel
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How 'bout you stop being a pussy and be a decent member of this site or just leave? Sounds good to me. I find it funny you flame, grounds for banning as you know, and then run over here to find out if you could be in legal trouble. What's it to you? Stop the behavior and it won't be an issue.
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Lasher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do i really have to go over this one again?


Just stop flamming people. Simple soltuon isn't it? I would think so. And it's not the actually sites in which the flamming and harassment takes place on that would necessarily be the ones to sue you. It could be one of those you are harassing to be more simple about it. Not the site. A user of a site is more likely to take such action then the site itself would.


Doesn't mean they haven't before (not FAC, but others have)
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Lasher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's fine. Just don't turn around and start doing it again after saying sorry and you didn't mean it. That tends to bring the worst out of the staff when people do that. And Denis is said to have little patience with people lately causing problems.

And ignore Fallen, she gets like that with people who flame and harasse users. They deserve it really. But since you aplogized *shrugs* don't do it again, stay out of trouble and she won't say anything to you point blank. She's a blunt and straight forward person. Sometimes we need people like her to get through to some of the more stubborn people. Like i said, ignore her, stay out of trouble and out of the staffs way, let us get on with our jobs, and she won't say a thing to you more than likely. It's done and over with.


and just so you know for future reference, there is an edit button on your posts that you can use. That way you don't double post. Otherwise Fallen, Kate, or myself, may something in the future about that as Forum moderators.
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iamem0tionless
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... just because you go skating doesn't mean you need to be able to name a trick. You have no right to judge anyone like that. Oh, and just so you know, we don't [i]care[/i] if you're mad. It's still flamming, and when you flame a site helper constantly, I wouldn't be surprised if you were suspended right away.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I won't be [i]ignored[/i], Dan..."

Don't act like one. Flaming people's art then hoping you won't be punished for it legally? Sounds like a pussy to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again i could be wrong *Stares, then shrugs* not my problem. You annoy her, she lets you know. I don't care. If i were you, it wouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't have done the wrong in the first place, but if i had, i know how to ignore people. especialy when i deserve it. *shrugs* oh well.


I'm done with this subject, it's old and just played out now. I'll come back to it if it flares up again, until then, i'm enjoying my JD for the night.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*has been around far too many dickheads for one week*

Any more are likely to have it taken out on them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend was suspended from school for 2 months for online harrassment of another student (although it wasn't really harrassment, she was just playing around) on MSN Messenger. No doubt you can get sued online. Of course, they'd have to find you first. I'd be kind of stupid to present a case to a judge where the case would be skaterman2020 vs. John Doe right?
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ragingflea002
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can find you. It's like how people get caught shoplifting. The bar codes weren't scanned, so the detector as you walk out pick it up. I think the laser in the scanner deactivates something in the code. All I know is that if you coat the inside of the shopping bag in aluminum foil, the detector won't pick up the uscanned bar code. Here, you have a kind of bar code. They know who you are by the data. It tells them about the server you use and they can track you that way. The internet is trying to be more secure because of stalkers, hackers, and viruses. The code is a precaution.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he could be using a public computer ^_^
That was my guess on how they'd find you, but I doubt the person on the forum would go through the trouble of doing that and hiring a lawyer just to file a "he flamed me, the little bitch" suit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter. The activities are still monitored. The "bar code", of sorts, follows you. You make the account on a Public Comp? You access it at home, they know where you live. It answers to the passwords and the user's ID.
It depends. If they need money, they might do it. If it's just stupid and they want to set an example, they might do it. Different actions lead to different reactions.
Point is, why do it when you're gonna get caught? You type it up, people are going to notice and you will get caught.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="sk8terman2020 (Darek Wyant)"] i never have done that!? i have just been mean like saying the picture sucked... well i know it was wrong i just was mad really mad so i put that stuff and raymei says she skates when she cant name a trick and it pissed me off so i just kept saying name a trick and if you cant your a poser :ph34r: [/quote]
whoa, what?

THIS is why you were being an ass to me?? dude, that's sad.

There's a HUGE difference from being a poser (where I could go online or ask my brother all these trick names and then SAY that I do them) as opposed to knowing/doing tricks and not knowing names (namely because all the skaters in this area are little preppy-punk kids who buy really expensive clothes and just walk around with a skateboard and listen to Avril (who, by the way, is NOT a good singer.....[my friend saw her in concert])


anyway, but yeah, excessive flaming (especially to one person in particular T.T hint...hint.... ) can result in a lawsuit.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion and freedom of speech, unless it's meaningless insults out for the soul purpose to hurt someone (like you did)

You didn't say anything like "that picture sucked" you said "FU*K YOU" over and over and over and over and over.... in case you forgot.... T.T
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll see people here forgive and forget rather quickly if the person shapes up and doesn't cause anymore problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup n.n such as now


long as people quit doing what they're doing (i.e. flaming) and start acting...I wouldn't say "nice" since we all argue from time to time with our own opinions....but civil.

It also depends on what you've said/done, how long it was going on, or what you do after that
T.T there are several people on my "do not forgive" list (note: No, I don't actually have one.... T.T ) because they had said/done some pretty bad stuff....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I should say I'm sorry.
We kind of started out on the wrong foot here, so as long as we are civil, as Raymei said, I'm not going to carry out anymore negative comments against you.
I wouldn't say I hated you, I'd say I was annoyed, but not hate. Takes a preppy cheerleader in order for me to hate someone.
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