Kingdom Hearts 2 Theories

flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

I've got the itch for Kingdom Hearts 2 and I was wondering what people think about the enigmatic little hints they've given us about the game so far.

So post your theories about the plot, characters, battle system, whatever.

What I've been wondering in partucular is: why are the Shadows so buff all of a sudden? Any ideas?

shadowgodess · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:

White guys are called Endless
The red haired guys name is Axel
Ansem is the guy in the red bandages, because the Japanese translates in the conversation between the unknown and him. "It's not good to let them know our plans, Ansem."
Riku is back, maybe has no memories of Sora, or himself
Takes place after Sora gets out of Oblivion Castle(Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories)
The blond haired kid looks just like Sora, hence "He looks just like you"

All this info, I have collected, is 100% correct.
I have searched on Japanese severs and sites and summarized this data.
feel free to debate. Very Happy

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flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

*nods* Mm-hmm, I've heard that stuff too. But are those weird white thingies really called Endless? I thought they were those enigmatic "Nobody" or "Nonexistant Ones" that are mentioned in Deep Dive.

I don't contest that the "Red Enigma" or whatever the masked guy is called is Ansem (note that they also have the same unique eye color), but I've been a-thinking. In Kingdom Hearts, Ansem takes over Riku's body and then "transforms" it or something to make it look like him (Ansem). Is it possible that the Ansem Sora fought in Kingdom Hearts wasn't the "real" Ansem per se, as it wasn't his real body, and the masked figure [i]is[/i] the "real" Ansem? Just a thought.

It's also been suggested that the Blond-haired Kid who looks just like Sora is Sora's other half, i.e. another version of Sora from another world. People are also speculating that Axel is yet [i]another[/i] form of Sora since their hair is kind of similar, but I don't think that's true. For one, Axel has a very different face and body structure and his resemblance to Sora is very slim. Secondly, in the second game Sora has a black outfit while the BHK has a white one. Black vs. White - it's nice and balanced, you don't need to add anything or anyone else to the Sora mixture.

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Dengeki PlayStation magazine: When did the plans for Kingdom Hearts II come up?

Tetsuya Nomura: The plans were around since the time when Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix, wrapped production, but the specifics weren't decided until this July or August.

DPM: Why did you decide to produce a Game Boy version of Kingdom Hearts?

TN: I heard a story that kids wanted to play Kingdom Hearts on the GBA. It also seemed that there was a similar demand overseas, so I thought that it had to be created. The plans for the GBA game were thought over while talking with Disney about Kingdom Hearts II. Actually, the vision of the game didn't become concrete until very recently.

DPM: None of the worlds of Disney in Kingdom Hearts II have been revealed. Will it be possible to go through different worlds in Kingdom Hearts II as well?

TN: Of course. The number of worlds in Kingdom Hearts II shouldn't be less than Kingdom Hearts, so please look forward to it. Kingdom Hearts II will have new worlds, and some worlds from Kingdom Hearts will be in the game.

DPM: Will Twilight Town hold the same kind of standpoint in the game, like Traverse Town from Kingdom Hearts?

TN: I can't answer that question, but it is definitely a town that plays an important role and comes into the scenario.

DPM: The illustration (of Twilight Town) has a building that looks like a train station. Will it be possible to go to other worlds by riding on this train?

TN: I can't answer that question yet, but that building has an important meaning.

DPM: Is the island that has been revealed (through a recently released photo) Destiny Island from Kingdom Hearts?

TN: Probably. (Laughs) I can't reveal details yet, so users should try using their imagination.

DPM: Kingdom Hearts II's main illustration shows Mickey Mouse, but will he be appearing at the beginning of the game?

TN: Mickey Mouse will be handled in a special way in Kingdom Hearts II, so I can't answer details at the current time. Other characters from Disney will join in the player's party, similar to Kingdom Hearts.

DPM: Will Sora's friends, Riku and Kairi, appear in Kingdom Hearts II?

TN: A major point to Kingdom Hearts II is whether or not Sora will be able to see them again. So I can't answer that question.

DPM: It seems that there are characters that appear in both the GBA game and KHII?

TN: There are characters that make their first appearances in the GBA game, but please wait for additional news releases for information on them.

DPM: The enemy in Kingdom Hearts II is no longer just the Heartless this time? Also, there are men wearing black jackets, but are they the same people from Kingdom Hearts?

TN: The white enemies seen in Kingdom Hearts II are third forces following the Villains [in each world] and the Heartless from Kingdom Hearts. I can't say who's who amongst the people in the black jackets, but a character from Kingdom Hearts is among them for sure.

DPM: Are there any major changes in the battle system?

TN: The basis (of the battle system) is still the same, but there will be a number of totally new options. With the additional options implemented to the battle system, there should be a wider range of possible strategies in Kingdom Hearts II. There are also a number of changes and additions to the magic and summons in the game. The overall concept of summoning will be different in Kingdom Hearts II, so please look forward.

DPM: What about actions and the transportation system?

TN: There were a variety of actions in Kingdom Hearts, and there will be even more in KHII. As for the gummy ship, we are thinking of something similar to it.

DPM: What about puzzles?

TN: There will probably be lots of objects on the field that the player will be able to meddle with. The story will obviously be complex and have some puzzles in it too, since it continues from points alluded to in Kingdom Hearts.

DPM: Will there be a place like the Coliseum from Kingdom Hearts and other minigames in Kingdom Hearts II?

TN: The coliseum will be incredible. There will also be a lot of minigame factors that can be looked forward to.

DPM: Will all the mysteries from Kingdom Hearts get answered?

TN: All the mysteries from Kingdom Hearts will be answered in Kingdom Hearts II--by design. (Laughs)

DPM: Why was a movie sequel to Final Fantasy VII decided for development, and when was it decided?

TN: About a year back, Visual Works (a company that has developed CG movies for Square) picked FFVII as the theme for a presentation that they were going to create. Our research and development department worked with them on its launch, and I joined the crew after producer Kitase-san called me. It's going to be released as a sequel, but it was planned to just be a visual presentation in the beginning.

DPM: Why is Advent Children a movie instead of a game? Are there any differences between making a game and making a full movie?

TN: First of all, we started off from the project that Visual Works was handling, but they can't make a game on their own. We tried to see if we could make it into a game, but it wasn't possible due to a number of factors. As a result, we decided to stick with the original plan and work on it as a movie production. The development isn't too different from the way we make movies that get used in our games, but our schedule is a bit tight. We need to keep the cost down since it's not a game, but [we still need to] maintain high quality.

DPM: Are there any differences between creating movies for games and creating Advent Children?

TN: There are more efforts put into the textures and the atmosphere. We usually need to balance [the movie graphics] with the game screen, but there are no such limitations in Advent Children, so we're going all out on it.

DPM: What meaning does Final Fantasy VII have for you?

TN: It was the Final Fantasy game that I was most involved in, and it is also my favorite. It's also where the series takes a radical change [from past FF titles].

DPM: How is production going?

TN: We are at about 10 percent done. Not all the characters have been created yet, but the scenario has already been completed.

DPM: Were there any things that you were especially careful about when bringing back Cloud and Sephiroth to the screen?

TN: What you are seeing now is the result of numerous explorations. Since it was impossible to bring the look [from FFVII] directly to the new realistic look (in Advent Children), the characteristics that would allow anybody to recognize Cloud and the others were left behind on them.

DPM: What kind of standing does the new character fighting with Cloud have?

TN: He is an enemy.

DPM: Were the characters in Advent Children's promotional video animated through motion capture?

TN: They were animated by motion capture, but that capture was recently taken for promotional use. It isn't a part of the main movie.

DPM: Are the battle scenes also created through motion capture?

TN: Many are, but parts that aren't humanly possible are done by hand.

DPM: Will the characters have voices? And will it be in English or Japanese?

TN: The characters will have voices, but I can't answer more.

DPM: What is the theme of Advent Children?

TN: Nojima, who handles the scenario, says that it won't be something soft, like healing. It will be about survival.

DPM: Where, specifically, will Advent Children take place? Will it be somewhere from the original Final Fantasy VII?

TN: It's hidden in the logo.

DPM: How long will Advent Children be?

TN: It is planned to run for 60 minutes.

DPM: Are there any chances for a FFVII sequel to be developed as a game after the release of Advent Children?

TN: I hope that this project may lead to something, since we woke up something that was sleeping.

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flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

That interview seemed pretty old. And how can Nomura say so much, [i]and yet say absolutely nothing?![/i]

Ugh, that's so not fair that CoM is only for GBA. I don't have a GBA!!! And why is [i]Sony[/i] making a game for a [i]Nintendo[/i] console, when they're rival companies!!! Rawr! Grr!

Myst · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 176

I hear Auron is going to be in it.

That's all I know, sadly. I can't wait until it comes out though. Smile

flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

Yeah, I heard that too! I even got to see the E3 trailer, which [i]actually showed him!!![/i] Very Happy

I'm pretty sure Hades hired him to knock off Sora. I dunno, though - there was something about him that looked kinda weird.

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[quote="flaming_weasel (Veil)"]
What I've been wondering in partucular is: why are the Shadows so buff all of a sudden? Any ideas? [/quote]
They're on steroids Razz

sorry couldn't resist XD I really have no clues
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flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

I'll bet that's it. Or maybe those are just the original Shadows' bigger brothers, coming to teach Sora a lesson after beating up their kid siblings. Laughing

shadowgodess · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject:

I just read GMR magizine!
They said Vincent is gonna be in KH2! Very Happy

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flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

[i]Vincent?![/i] Surprised

That's news to me! I knew they were gonna have Auron, but I didn't know Vincent was joining Sora & co. too. I wonder what role he'll play in the game...

I_luv_jesus · Newb Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 13

so much 2 say try kingdomhearts2.net

shadowgodess · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:20 am Post subject:

BIG NEWS!

The unknown man, or the Enigmatic man from Final Mix,
who will appear in COM name is Vixen! DUN DUN DA! Surprised

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Nekoyosounis_boyfriend · Newb Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 2

[quote="flaming_weasel (Veil)"]

Ugh, that's so not fair that CoM is only for GBA. I don't have a GBA!!! And why is [i]Sony[/i] making a game for a [i]Nintendo[/i] console, when they're rival companies!!! Rawr! Grr!

[/quote]
'Scuse me, but SquareEnix is not at all a sony company, before Final Fantasy Seven, the previous Final Fantasys were on Nintendo systems.

flaming_weasel · Very bored Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 178

Whoops, my bad. The point is, someone who owns a PS2 doesn't neccessarily own a GBA. And if Chain of Memories is going to be essential for understanding Kingdom Hearts 2's plot, then that's not fair to those PS2 owners. If Square Enix is going to make a multi-game franchise, they should stick to only one console developer and keep it fair to those who don't have the money to buy multiple consoles.

Also, if they Enigmatic Man is named Vixen, and a vixen is a female fox, does that mean that he is actually a she? Cuz that would be the manliest woman I've ever seen, ambiguous outfit or not.