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fallenangel Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 9216 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Their IP can be banned (save for AOL), as well as whatever new name they come under. _________________ "I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall |
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Rayne Newb

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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This may be a foolish question. I considered the comment I recieved itself to be foolish, so this probably is.
I posted a photo manipulation a few months ago under my account (http://ctgameinfo.com/fanart/pictures.php?op=picture&picture=18616). I really don't see the problem. It's just a photo manipulation.
In any case, I don't know what to do. Maybe this lone bonehead had a point, but I'm lost to why. (~sniff~ I already took down my cosplay picture..) If anyone can tell me, that'd be awesome.
Thanks a bunch. |
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fallenangel Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 9216 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Spook certainly enjoys flaunting imaginary power.... I don't know if there's a report on you or not, but if there is...I can't wait to read it with an attitude like that.
You're not breaking the "no pictures of family/friends/etc." rule, obviously, and that rule's to keep people from using this site as a photo album, anyway. You are, however, breaking the "no content that you do not have permission to use" rule.
I removed the questions in the FAQ about photo manips because the debate had long since passed about whether or not they should be allowed and what was considered enough effort to be a good manip, and because it would just encourage people to post more non-fanart. Since the picture's of a cover girl, not stock photos or such, I'd suggest removing it. But if you want to continue practicing without anyone hassling you, use stock art. There's a really nice selection on deviantart.com as well as other galleries. Give credit to where you got it n' no one can bitch. DA also has a much better section just for photo manips if you're ever looking for tips.
I don't know how many photo manips are being uploaded to the site. I don't see that many, which is why I deleted the FAQ questions about them, but they're still saved if there's enough people doing photo manips to need them (though I suppose manips fall under the "better suited elsewhere" category, as well).
That was far too long for an answer that could have been once sentence. _________________ "I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall |
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Rayne Newb

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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I see. Ah well. Too bad, I like that picture, and I've never done anything like it before..
Oh well, maybe I can get it on my site or something.. |
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KenshinJennings Member

Joined: 03 Sep 2005 Posts: 84 Location: behind you
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think FAC should allow wallpapers to be posted.Wallpapers are harder to make than it seems.I've seen wallers spend weeks and months perfecting their wallpapers.I'm very aware of the fact that the waller did not draw the character used in there.But,they spend hours trying to make the perfect background.It's very hard trying to fin a scan that will match exactly with the background.And if the scan is appropiate,it might not be of good quality so the waller has to either vector it or recolor-or CG it.Vectoring a scan is not easy.Besides,real good quality wallpapers don't consist of a anime character thrown on top of stock image.The waller makes a background.Newbie wallers usually use the Clouds filter and grass brush in Photoshop.A good example of a quality wallpaper foundhere and some other ones on that site are good too.And if FAC does accept wallpapers,there should be quality guidelines so users can find good-quality wallpapers and bad ones don't fill up the whole site. |
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fallenangel Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 9216 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a matter of effort, it's a matter of copyright.
What those people do is [b]ILLEGAL[/b], just as illegal as tubers on Yahoo or those who sell other people's art on bookmarks on ebay. There's a reason it's against DA policy and will also not be allowed here. _________________ "I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall |
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Brianhjh

Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 8014 Location: Queen's University
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Most fanarts (er, ones whose original character has been designed by someone else) is technically illegal too, but since most, if not all promote the series it is based on, no company will go after you for drawing them unless you're making lot's of money out of it.
Just because it's widespread doesn't mean it's legal. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Brianhjh/emesprani151.gif[/img] "Sarah's future makes me sad." - Benk |
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fallenangel Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Basically all fanart violates trademark, but it's slightly less disgusting than copyright violation.
Some artists/authors WILL get their lawyers involved even if no money is being made, though. The lady who wrote the Pern books, Anne Rice, Disney...
Disney has gone after several places like schools n' daycares and such who had characters put on their walls for free. Of course money just increases the chances of a court case, which is partially why DA won't allow any fanart to be sold (even though some slips in). _________________ "I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 13721 Location: Moo
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Basically all fanart violates trademark, but it's slightly less disgusting than copyright violation.[/quote]
That's because, in most cases, the artist has actually taken time and effort to create something [i]from scratch[/i], a piece which is entirely their own time & effort (if not ownership) to create.
For comparison, here's what dA (recently) has said about wallpapers:
[b]QUOTE[/b] (http://news.deviantart.com/article/20403/) | [b]Anime Wallpapers Under Review[/b]
From time to time C&E undertakes broad reviews of the various galleries and sections here on deviantART and at this point in time the Wallpaper/Anime section is being reviewed for various violations.
Those who have been a deviant for several years may remember that we once had an Anime section of the Wallpaper gallery which became so polluted with copyright infringement that the entire section was deleted along with all the submissions which it contained and it was left absent for a couple of years before Artist Relations risked reopening the section due to popular request.
The current review has shown that the past problems with this section have resurfaced immediately- nearly half of the wallpaper submissions reviewed so far have been deleted as violations of our copyright policies and some users have lost a good portion of their galleries (or even their entire gallery) due to similar violations.
I must once again remind everyone that you are not allowed to use materials owned by other people or companies- this is all outlined clearly in our FAQ.
I must also once again remind everyone that Disclaiming the artwork or Crediting the actual owner or author does not excuse you from being required to obtain legal permission for use.
The review of the Wallpaper/Anime section is still underway with January submissions being sorted and deleted as necessary and the section will be kept under review due to the heavy number of violations being found there.[/quote] _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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gothic_ginny Still very bored

Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 272
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ehm, are dolls sprite art? Are they allowed? (Providing you give credit to whoever did the base). Oh, and also, what if you make your own base?
I've been hearing a bunch of different things from people, so I want to get this cleared up. _________________ "Pregnant?? We Can Help!"
"Hint: everything moves" |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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The term "sprite" refers almost exclusively to the bitmap graphics used in videogames to represent its in-game characters.
Remember, giving credit isn't the same thing as asking for permission. And (without a formal, agreed policy on the matter) whether we'll allow it may vary depending on the source. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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cstdenis Evil Overlord

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 6490 Location: In the tubes.
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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If there is no money its hard to win is a court because I think they have to prove financial harm for it. But either way, a letter from a lawyer is enough to scare off most people. _________________ You will obey or molten silver will be poured into your ears. |
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fallenangel Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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But in a lot of cases, all they have to argue is [i]potential[/i] profit loss. Like in the case of Disney murals, they argue that the people painted the pictures instead of paying $30 for their stupid wall decals and stuff like that. Where they [i]could[/i] have made money but didn't, whether the other person was paid or not. Super ghey, but...such is commerce. _________________ "I care about people as much as I care about lawn furniture" - Dexter/Michael C. Hall |
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cstdenis Evil Overlord

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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potential profit loss is the theory behind most piracy (movies, software, mp3s) lawsuits. Dont think it would often apply to fanart but I can see companies like Disney with way too many lawyers on staff going after anything that moves. _________________ You will obey or molten silver will be poured into your ears. |
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