FAC will not accept art with a High level of sexual content.

[Trinity_Fire]

What. The. Hell.

Okay, fine. Set this as a small note in the announcements, but for a lot of people, this is gonna change the site a lot.

I suppose it does fit FAC, as this is mostly kiddie-oriented, but, seriously, you're settling yourself down for the noobs. I mean, you have any idea how many pics are going to have to be deleted/removed for this??? I know so many good artists on this site, and though some of them are perfectly clean, others have a smattering of sexual pictures... and they're still good artists. Plenty of them have a huge amount of comments and favs.
Entire artists on here are gonna be wiped out. I suppose FAC wasn't the best place to go looking for hentai, but you can't deny that it hasn't been here. And some has been really good, no matter what the subject.

Denis, was this really, really necessary??? Does FAC really needed to do this mass-pruning?? What was wrong with a bit of hentai?? It honestly doesn't bother me, and lots of other people, as long as you search for what you want, set up the filters... wasn't that the entire point of the filters???? Scratch the high sexual content, and you might as well scratch the entire filtering system.
And as well, don't deny that lots of little kiddies here go to the hentai on their own. They're immature, what do you expect??

And who would complain about it afterward?? You set up the filters completely for that purpose!

And not just pics, but this applies to fics as well??? What??
I think, at the very least, you should discriminate a little for the fics. In pics, if there's high sexual content, it's one pic, one image, one message. I can understand that.
But in a fic?? There's a plotline. There's something to explain and show, and just because there's sex somewhere in there, it's going to be deemed as hentai?? Okay, I do admit that some fics were written to BE hentai, but others weren't, and doing this will really ruin it. What, you want us to just PG down everything we do??

Sorry, but this one new rule is no improvement on FAC. :/ I honestly don't see why we need it, if FAC's been running smoothly for so long with hentai, sex, whatever, crappily drawn or not.

I do see how this could help out the site, I do, but I don't see as to how it's really worth it. A lot of comments and favorites were gathered here at FAC, and telling us to go to that other site is telling us to wipe it all clean and start anew. Honestly.

And Hentai-Foundry... just because people draw things with high sexual ratings, it doesn't always mean they're going to want to go to a site that labels itself, even in title, as a hentai site. That's embarassing, for some of us, and my god, it's not where a lot of the pics from FAC would ever belong in.

Sorry, and I don't mean to be that rude, but it's just... this is something I really can't say I'll ever see as something to make FAC better.

[Kurama_Lover_Otaku_Bunny]

This whole thing sucks, big-time. I mean, I draw maybe one or two hentai pictures, but I'd still like them to be seen!! They're qualitry artwork!! I don't want my few explicit pictures on a site like that.

[fallenangel]

It's a LEGAL matter. All the other (decent) art sites have the same policies because all-ages sites can't have hard-ons ( ) and wanking chicks on them. Read the policies of DA/Epilogue/Elfwood/etc and you'll see no sexual content. Not the same as nudity. Graphic nc17 pictures.

This isn't like ff.net because (aside from there being a difference between text and pictures), Denis is providing a perfectly nice site for the pictures to go on, instead of just deleting them all. It's not a matter of "the porn sucks, let's get rid of it" because otherwise we may as well delete the sonic and inuyasha sections too. It's that having porn on a decidedly kiddie site causes problems, the same problems unmoderated caused.

And you move on.

RIP unmoderated
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[Trinity_Fire]

Oh, I see... so it's just... legal??
Does DA seriously have no sexual content allowed?? I understand the difference between nudity, but seriously, it just seems like a horrible pity... so many artists on here will have lost so many pics, if not entire standings.

Is FAC absolutely forbidden to have this sexual content stuff, or is it just because we should make our site decent??? 'Cuz that'd seem kinda like crap. :/

And still, would this HAVE to apply to fanfics?? I realize some are just little excerpts of smut, but others had plotline. Most respected novels have a sex scene in them, whether in detail or not. It doesn't mean the entire story revolves around the sex scene, and I really think that'd be cruel, as I have quite a few stories I really don't want to have to remove. :[

And I do thank denis for the alternate site, as that's more consideration than FF.net ever had, yeah, but I didn't write my stories to be put on a hentai site. :/
Like my one friend says, there can be a plot to porn.

[Touzoku-joou]

Nope, dA doesn't allow sexual content either, aside from fetish portraits which, while sexual in nature, don't actually depict the act of sex/masturabation/etc.
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[Kurama_Lover_Otaku_Bunny]

I still agree with the fact that it's embarassing to have to put some of your pictures on a hentai-only site. It makes you look like one of those artists who draws nothing but porn all day. And if you are, good for you! No problem then!
Also, that's the reason I LIKED fac. Because they didn't limit your creativity!

[Stratadrake]

Type "porn" into dA's Help system, and you get:

- [url=http://help.deviantart.com/12/]Am I allowed to submit art that is pornographic, hateful or demeaning?[/url] (Answer: [b]No[/b])
- [url=http://help.deviantart.com/305/]Is posting 'Adult' oriented artwork alright if I censor it first?[/url] (Answer: [b]No[/b])
- [url=http://help.deviantart.com/565/]What does dA consider to be pornographic material?[/url]
- [url=http://help.deviantart.com/246/]Why? Nudity can be a form of art too.[/url]

As well as:
- [url=http://faq.deviantart.com/23/]dA official Nudity Policy[/url]
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[Kitzy]

FAC will be better this way, because of the nature of art that's most present on here (things drawn by younger people).
You can't have a site that's, say...a community for Disney movies, then have sections with pornographic material. The fact that it appeals to both children and adults will make it unsuitable for those kinds of things.
Just legal issues, nothing to do with not being able to tolerate that sort of stuff (as mentioned above).
You don't -have- to draw porn. If you want to, that's up to you, and you can post it on sites with people who actually look at it.
It's like posting Star Trek on a Star Wars board...it doesn't really belong there, and you know someone is going to say something about it sooner or later.

It's not limiting you creativity, because you're free to be creative. You just shouldn't post unacceptable content on an 'everyone' site.
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[Kurama_Lover_Otaku_Bunny]

"You don't -have- to draw porn. If you want to, that's up to you, and you can post it on sites with people who actually look at it.
It's like posting Star Trek on a Star Wars board...it doesn't really belong there, and you know someone is going to say something about it sooner or later. "

Excuse me, but I've gotten scores of comments on both my normal and explicit pictures. And I see hundreds upon hundreds of pictures like that every day on fac.

[Shiloh]

As much as I hate this, I have to say that I understand and agree about the legal stuff and having them to make another website for it.... but im still sad about all this happening so sudden.
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[Trinity_Fire]

Yeah, in the end, I think I have to agree with Shiloh. This really does suck though.

And I honestly think it's going to be a huge loss to FAC. I saw a few real crappy tries at hentai/porn from the little kiddies, but it's just boring stuff that you move past. However, there are some absolutely brilliant artists on here that drew hentai, but it really was nicely crafted, and making them start afresh is cruel. Some people only post on FAC, y'know, as it does-- Was, sorry, one of the only places that allowed you to post whatever.

And about the other site... it's way too... hentai-oriented. My fics have sex in them, but that doesn't mean I'd ever post it on a hentai site. I have a plotline to what I do, and I treasure that far more than the sex scene, but I don't want to just :bleep: out the rest of the fic, as that ruins my work, and plus, things can happen inbetween, that affect the fic. >>;

But, c'mon! I still don't think it should be done... this is FANArt Central, and there's categories in here for all things; Disney, Sailor Moon, InuYasha, whatever, and I feel like Hentai is just another section like the rest. :/ I mean, really, I know quite a few users that only see hentai pics on this site, and only fav/comment on them, and perhaps only draw them... etc, etc...

I guess one of the big problems here is that you implemented this kind of late. If FAC had started out with abosultely no hentai allowed, then this wouldn't have become a problem, but instituting this now, with so many prominent artists on here with their stuff already commented on, faved, etc, etc... it's a real big pity. :/

And no matter what, I still don't think it's necessary. :[

[Kurama_Lover_Otaku_Bunny]

Trinity_Fire. I agree with EVERY LAST WORD you just said. You just said exactly what was on my mind.

[Shiloh]

I guess this another big change we are gonna have to deal with. But it kind of makes me wanna cry, I feel trapped, and I also agree with everything Trinity_Fire said.
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[Touzoku-joou]

[quote="Shiloh"]I guess this another big change we are gonna have to deal with. But it kind of makes me wanna cry, I feel trapped, and I also agree with everything Trinity_Fire said.[/quote]

You're just going into middle school and you feel "trapped" 'cause FAC doesn't allow people to post boners any more?

I personally don't care, and almost feel like it's an improvement. Most of the porn here was badly drawn yaoi that I wouldn't miss anyway. Boo-hoo.
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[PhunkYMunkY]

You lack discipline.

[layzcarter]

As it's been stated before, this is for legal reasons. Not much else to say. Yes there are a few decent hentai artists on fac, but I would say about 90% of the hentai on fac is absolute sh*t because it's drawn by 10 year old girls. Those mature enough to draw hentai should understand why this has to be done and adjust to it. If you are embarrassed to be posting on a hentai specific site, then I suggest you don't draw anything with sexual content because you are obviously not mature enough to do so.
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[unfocused]

RIP unmoderated

[fallenangel]

All the complaints against just sound like "omg teh meanies dun lyke teh sexxorz!!!!".

I think just about every staff member except strata has drawn some form of it. Probably even Denis. None of us have anything against porn (except strata). Yes, FAC used to let you post "whatever", but so did most sites that started small. As they grow, they get new guidelines for what is and isn't acceptable.

FAC is a kid-friendly site, so it can't have porn everywhere (and given that my filter settings don't block anything, it's hard to find a time when the newest 6 doesn't include some two-minute porn doodle). Yes, DA has a no sexual content rule because they could get into serious trouble for providing porn to minors. That's why all those real porn sites have credit card age verification.

There is a difference between nudity, erotica, and porn. If you don't want people thinking you're a pervert, don't draw hardcore smut pictures. And if you only have a few on the new site, people will hardly think that's all you draw. Now, if you have 50...


And maybe it's just me, but wanting your sex pictures on a kid site surrounded by half assed drawings of inuyasha sounds kinkier and more perverted than a little gallery on an adult website.


$20 says the only people really upset are those under 18 who are drawing and looking at the porn and shouldn't [legally] be in the first place.
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[Trinity_Fire]

:Sigh: I don't actually draw porn myself or whatnot, and I don't seek it out either, but really, there's just some users I know that draw hentai, and their works are gonna be completely blasted out.
Like, who honestly hasn't heard of Zakuman? And there are others...
I honestly haven't seen much crappy yaoi to me. Yaoi pics I see mostly never escalate beyond kisses and occasional bare chests.

But, it's gonna happen, and bitching about it won't do much good.
Still, you guys won't start deleting pics and fics yet, right? Some people will need time to catch the warning, and probably more than a few of them might need time to save their works to their comp. or another site before they start getting mass-pruned. :/

I understand the pics problem, and fine, it's over.
But could we please consider the fics?? Seriously. I mentioned it up above in the post, and I do admit, some fics are smutty and perchance crappy fangirl works too, but others really had plotline with just the sex scene here and there.
Are you sure you can't allow the stories to stay, depending on whether the point to them was really the smut or not?? Just because a story has a sex scene, it does not mean it's erotica or whatever.
And anyway, little kiddies usually don't go reading stories; or if they do, they search for the smutty ones, not the ones with plotline.

And some stories really have a lot of chapters and have been on here for a while... :[

[Kurama_Lover_Otaku_Bunny]

Ah, Zakuman. Who DOESN'T know that artist. Anyway, The only real problem that I have with posting my very few explicit pictures on a hentai-only site is that somebody's gonna catch me and get the wrong idea. Stupid, I know. But I do have parents.