FAC will not accept art with a High level of sexual content.

[Touzoku-joou]

Sometimes I wish I were on the Approval Panel just for the joy of rejecting the things that I can only yell at now.
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[Brianhjh]

Rejecting takes like, 10 times longer than approvals.


I just go uh-huh, uh huh, now.


and cry later in my bed.
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[cstdenis]

[quote]And if it's the latter, then ... "DELETED!" Twisted Evil [/quote]
I deleted them just after the post, added an admin note, and took off aa

[Hawk4444]

what has to be done, has to be done.

but fac will endure. sad to see it go though.
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[Senko]

[quote]For the record, there are 1,177 artists on FAC with adult content (out of almost 60,000).

There are about 2,000 pictures (out of 300,000) and 3000 stories (many of which are over rated) (out of 16,500) that are affected by this change.


This really just isn't as big a change as some people are making it out to be.


This isn't banning nudity.
This isn't banning sexually suggestive content
This isn't banning scantily clad pictures.
This is just banning outright porn.[/quote]

I'VE DRAWN PORN? i mean what the hell? i've deleted two of my pictures, i haven't bothered putting them on hentai-foundry, I can understand why you suggest putting them on there but you have to understand alot of people don't feel the need to or want to join a site like that.
Oh and it is a big change, PG-ing everything is just feels like that white america. I feel quite offended by this.
Were is the line drawn? what do you really plan on banning? NC-17, R, there has been NO rating given to us to make the job easier on what to delete.
it can be argued that scantily clad pictures, suggestive content and nudity are as completley in the wrong and as offensive as porn. Kiddies are only going to look at other sites anyway.
I agree all of the way with the first post.
It could be all the artists on the site with at least one adult picture; it wouldn't make any difference.
Oh and sorry if this off topic on the area that you are concerntrating on, i felt my veiw needed expressing^^;

[Stratadrake]

About you, there is one picture in your gallery (out of 38) which falls under the label of explicit sexual content. It's an old picture (from before the FAC upgrade), so you should really check that the label is accurate first.

I agree on the subject that it's kinda ... counter-intuitive to simply ban explicit sexual content while doing nothing about, say, pornographic nudity.

[quote]but you have to understand alot of people don't feel the need to or want to join a site like that.[/quote]
I don't feel any obligation to be on HFC. It's not what I draw.
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[Senko]

by the above i was referring to the first post stating the uneasiness of joining an all porn site if it IS 'what you draw', I'm also wondering, why is it that there's a 'racism' filter and a 'profanity' filter? is anything going to be done to them? they seem to me a hole different level of offensivness which in turn is more 'disguisting' than mere porn.

[cstdenis]

There is no current plans to do anything about them.

[sailorharmony2000]

Hmmm...I'm glad I came here to read about this, else I wouldn't have known. I have a few pictures that are just a bit graphic in sexual content (not uploaded yet), but they're a far cry from porn. As long as tasteful nudity and even nudity used in/as humor isn't taken out.

Humor as in...

I've drawn a character who woke up with an erection. The joke is that this happens to many boys/guys who are unaware that it even happened until it's too late. Thing is, he's covered up by his sheets. So sexual, but not explicit, nor 'tasteful' (IMO)
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[Nevem]

The thing I have a problem with is how it isn't very accurate in keeping porn in the vault and off of fac. There is still so much porn on fac and so little in te vault.

[Mavis]

Greetings and hello. I'm not much of a forum jockey, i just read to see what trends are going on in artist communities. In fact, this is my first post on this forum. So I apologize if this seems a little abrubt since I'm a first time poster.

There has a been a giant change in 'adult/erotic' art communities with many websites being taken down, relocating, or fighting to stay up for a long time. Many art communities and sites are being established or remade or just disappearing. This isn't new that a major art archive is bending to the "no sex" regulation and trying to keep things 'clean.' At one point, fanficiton archives had to split between 'adult' fanficiton and regular fan fiction. This isn't new.

I myself believe that sex can be artistically expressed and appreciated. Its tragic, though, that the separation of genres has occured here. There is all this art here, and 'erotic' art is once again put in its own separate place. I thought FAC was a place where artistic expression of varying styles and genres could exist without conflict.

The usual resolution to this conundrum would be to create a web archive for the art that will be lost. The problem with this, and I agree with some posters here, that many artists feel that the full span of their artistic talents are not appreciated as a whole. You can draw an erotic art for one audience, but that audience may never see your other forms of art. Not to mention such archives can get filled with content more about sex, than art. In the case of adult art/fiction areas, that the original intentions of producing and archiving this form of art can become perverse, if not distasteful from the vices of both the audience and producers. One man's art is another man's porn, you could say.

I sympathize with the artists who feel like they are being cheated here.

As for FAC, artists have every right to be cross with them. FAC developed ways for users to filter out undesired content. The idea and application of it was perfect. It enabled users who didn't want to see certain content to be removed. But I guess that isn't enough to parents. In the age of the internet where anyone below 18 and above age 4 can find a way to view adult content, its saddening that such vices prevent certain art to exist without legal reprecussions.

However, FAC is making this change so they can continue to exist without loosing the entire scope. They have to think about everyone here and what will work out best in the long run. So I say there decision was best considering the circumstances.

I say continue, artists, to express yourselves and find legal ways to gettintg your art out there. There are always loopholes and legalized ways for 'erotic' art to be displayed. Otherwise such artists such as Boris Vajello or Julie Bell wouldn't exist, much less have websites.

Thank you for taking the time to reading this and good day.

[royally_spooky]

what if you have the bad parts of the picture blocked out with a box or blured to where you can't see it? Then would it be ok?
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[Razputin]

D: wow. i used to love fac because it didnt make stupid rules like thissss

and why is their first arguement always "the other big art sites do it"? *shakes head*

[Stratadrake]

*sigh* Don't waste your time trying to make THAT lame argument again.
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[Fayore]

[quote="royally_spooky"]what if you have the bad parts of the picture blocked out with a box or blured to where you can't see it? Then would it be ok?[/quote]

Apparently not; it's enough to get you banned on the forums at any rate.

[royally_spooky]

ok thank you
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[reityhe]

hmm... i dont see why that would get you blocked out, you edited it, right? plus if you rate it correctly, just as long as its shown as a warning thumbnail, too.

jeez, just lecture the parents of these horndogs viewing hentai/yaoi/yuri about keeping their bad children off the internet.... [size=9]if they dont bother to erase the computer history first[/size]...[size=7]heh heh[/size]...

[Lilium]

[quote]There has a been a giant change in 'adult/erotic' art communities with many websites being taken down, relocating, or fighting to stay up for a long time. Many art communities and sites are being established or remade or just disappearing. This isn't new that a major art archive is bending to the "no sex" regulation and trying to keep things 'clean.' At one point, fanficiton archives had to split between 'adult' fanficiton and regular fan fiction. This isn't new. [/quote]

Im afraid you'll have to blame the little fangirls and underage people for making sex as it is in these art communicates: downright distasteful and no real underlining message other than the person who drew it thinks it's hot...not many (especially the law...) can call erotica art or actually see that it can be something open minded because of that....

[cstdenis]

Why is this still being discussed? This happened months ago.

Its not about the age, its not about complaints, its about complying with the policies of the other businesses FAC has to work with.

I'm locking this topic since it just will not die on its own.