Top Ten Albums of 2006

punk_Jimmy · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject:

Just to correct Ogrim Doom Hammer, Welcome To The Black Parade is a song. The Black Parade is the album title. The concept isn't particularly original, but it is beautifully executed.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject:

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Its supposedly the story of a man dying from cancer(the patient) who looks back on his life, I haven't bothered to read lyrics or listen to the whole album yet (and won't) but its a good concept![/quote]

...Not really. It's as poorly conceived as their mall goth image. It's all red eyeshadow and skinny pants, but no substance underneath. No purpose other than to look kewl. Considering how vapid their other songs are, it's surprising they even attempted a concept album which is hard enough to pull off when you're an innovator, and impossible to do when you're a teen band.

Their concept is enough for one song. Their single. Beyond that it's just repeating what was already said in a different way. I doubt you've heard it either, but Poison's Hollyweird a 5-6 years ago was a concept album and about as well put together as this. If your concept is as narrow and empty as "uh...hollywood has lots of whores and you're never gonna be famous"...you really only need one song for that.

Anyway. Liking the [i]concept[/i] is fine, but it's really not good material for an album.
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Ogrim_Doomhammer · Oldbie Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2116

[quote="punk_Jimmy"]Just to correct Ogrim Doom Hammer, Welcome To The Black Parade is a song. The Black Parade is the album title. The concept isn't particularly original, but it is beautifully executed.[/quote]

lol, 10,000 days is beautiful, that is just good conceptwise.

I know that its just a bubblegum band and their music is all bubblegum too but I still think its a good concept. Its also true that that the concept is a very closed subject.

I also said, I haven't read any lyrics or heard other songs and I don't know if the concept is present on more than one or two songs but I do know that its an album with a concept I consider intresting.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject:

[quote]I don't know if the concept is present on more than one or two songs [/quote]

It's present in [i]every[/i] song, that's what a concept album is. That's why it doesn't work, because it can be done in one song. It's fine for the single, redundant in all the others.

That's why I said it's fine if you like the concept, but it's not a good [i]concept album[/i].
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Ogrim_Doomhammer · Oldbie Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2116

[quote="fallenangel"][quote]I don't know if the concept is present on more than one or two songs [/quote]

It's present in [i]every[/i] song, that's what a concept album is. That's why it doesn't work, because it can be done in one song. It's fine for the single, redundant in all the others.

That's why I said it's fine if you like the concept, but it's not a good [i]concept album[/i].[/quote]

I know what a concept album is, i'm not a moron, been talking bout it in my posts on this thread. and you are right, its a good concept, not a good concept album, but only for the concept I believe it deserves a spot.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:

Then why say you don't know if the concept is in every song. Of course it is.

If it's a shitty concept album, I don't see how it deserves a spot for only one song.
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Ogrim_Doomhammer · Oldbie Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2116

[quote="fallenangel"]Then why say you don't know if the concept is in every song. Of course it is.[/quote]

Because if the album is so shitty and wrongly employed as you say then the concept might not be on every song. I just happen to think that the concept isn't as narrow as to keep it only in a song....

would you say that rush's 2112 isn't a concept album because the concept only is on one song? I do think its a concept album.
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fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject:

A concept album is only a concept album if the entire thing explores a single concept. Lolz Need a count of how many times I can use the word concept.

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars tells the story of a martian arriving to save humans from their tediousness. Earth is five years from destruction and the songs follow his arrival, rise, and fall/self destruction as a rock star. That's a massive, well articulated concept.

MCR took an idea for one song, they have the single, and nowhere else to go with the rest of the songs. They're all about "yo, I'm dying".

A lot of people consider 2112 a concept album just because the track is so damn long and the title track. The rest are unrelated. That's not a concept album, that's a conceptual song. But even so, that doesn't relate to MCR because the rest of the songs on Black Parade ARE related. And poorly so. It's the same song 13 times with slightly different wording.

So...again...I don't think you can call an album one of the best of the year when the concept of the single is the only thing going for it. The rest of 2112 doesn't suck ass. The rest of Black Parade does.
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Ogrim_Doomhammer · Oldbie Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2116

[quote="fallenangel"]The rest of 2112 doesn't suck ass. The rest of Black Parade does.[/quote]

At least I agree on that.
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HerculesRockefeller · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 3143

Excluding Something For Nothing, I thought the rest of 2112 was some of Rush's worst work (Mainly Twilight Zone and Lsssons"

fallenangel · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

I don't like any of Rush's work. But the rest of 2112 compared to the rest of Black Parade...is freakin' Sgt. Pepper's.
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KiraUchiha · Newb Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 16

[quote="fallenangel"]MCR took an idea for one song, they have the single, and nowhere else to go with the rest of the songs. They're all about "yo, I'm dying".
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[color=red][size=9]Yes, it is about a cancer patient dying, but he's reflecting on the turning events of his life while he was alive because he knows that he's dying. Maybe that's what people think while they're dying and they know that death is near - how they lived their life.

Anyways, the point is it that the concept isn't as tight as you say. He looks back on his life, and life is full of things. He looks back on the events that changed him, his regrets, what he could've been, and etc. And his finalised thoughts as he's dying - "We are all just a black parade". Is it a spectacular idea? Maybe not, but it made a brilliant album.

Although I think that the original concept that was planned for Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge was better than the one for Black Parade, Revenge didn't end up as a concept album as originally planned so we can forget about that.[/color][/size]

fallenangel · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject:

Yes, the concept is [i]potentially[/i] broad. Any concept is. "I went to the store" could be a massive novel. The [i]execution[/i] of the concept is quite narrow. I can go through track by track if you like, but every single song barely moves beyond "hey I'm dying", if at all. And that's just because MCR can't write.
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SilverKitsune · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject:

1. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Sadium Arcadium
2. John5 - Songs for Sanity
3. Dresden Dolls - ?

Thats all I can think of. haha. I need to get out and find out whats 'hip' , thing is, I feel that all the new bands like Panic!, The killers, and The muse sound the same to me. Most bands are sounding like them ):
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stippie · Very bored Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

the open door-evanescence
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Red_Quatre · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject:

The only album I bought this year that was released this year was Evanescence's The Open Door. I think it's a pretty good album. Less whiney than the first.
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stippie · Very bored Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

they did great progress with terry, the open door has the best songs.