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Kitzy Super Moderator

Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6523 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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The topic's not about marriage or -being- gay, it's about reading/watching/looking at Yaoi.
[quote]ya i do think straight romance stories are nicer and i think people get so picky is beacuse of religon and how they are rased* as a kid.
now me i have stoped looking at yaoi[/quote] would have sufficed.
I'm not exactly sure why all these people have such a problem with it...
It's kind of closed-minded of people to go and read 'romance' things and not even -consider- a good story just because the people are gay. If it's said to be good, should the gender really matter? o_O
As for yaoi pictures, all you really have to do to make it 'suitable' for your viewing if you're so against yaoi is change one of the guy's boy parts to girl parts, and there you go. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Kitsunegirl/Pirates1.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Kitsunegirl/Pirates2.gif[/img] |
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Squidman Very Oldbie

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 2587 Location: The Pirateswamp
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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This is how we do gay couples in Squidland. Couple o' guys, acting like guys, enjoying each other's company and tolerating each other's annoying habits.
[img]http://home.graffiti.net/squidman:graffiti.net/morningwip.jpg[/img]
This is the only couple of it's nature I've ever really done with my OCs, and it pretty much made itself. Blue (the one with the coffee) was the first of the two that I did. For the first year I drew him and tried to work him into comics he just became more and more of a depressing, lonely, sensitive character. After I drew him long enough it just dawned on me "Hey, Blue likes guys too." It wasn't a concious "omg gay is hawt" descision, it was just the direction the character was writing himself into.
Tigris (the one with the milk jug... also the guy in my sig and avatar) was originally drawn up just to see how Blue would work with another guy. When I started trying to work him into the story, he was a butch, father-figureish white guy with tiger stripe tattoos who only really worked as someone Blue was casually dating. After a year or so of playing around with him he ended up being a lanky, slutty, sarcastic black guy. It became more and more compelling to write he and Blue as a more serious couple to the point where today they're like an old married couple. At the same time, It became easier to write for Blue without making him miserable.
I didn't make the couple because I figured it would be fun to inject some gay smut into my art, I didn't do it because I would feel threatened if either of them were paired up with other wome or because the thought of straight men intimidates me. Blue and Tigris are together because that's where the two wrote themselves to be. _________________ [size=9][color=indigo][img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/Squids/haybaby.jpg[/img]
::[url=http://www.fanart-central.net/user.php?aid=Squidman]FAC[/url]::[url=http://coelasquid.deviantart.com/gallery/]DA[/url]::[url=http://coelasquid.blogspot.com]Blog[/url]::[url=http://pirate-squid.livejournal.com/]LJ[/url]::[/size][/color] |
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Fayore Moderator

Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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[quote="bloodblackrose"]IF YOU BOTHER TO SAY SOMTHING OF THAT MATER I WILL NOT EVEN LOOK AT IT[/quote]
Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, etc etc.
Everyone here cares less about you than you about this forum, good job! Keep it up, babe.
Squiddy deserves another gold star. Kitzy should get one too. But alas, my powers of copypaste are sadly lacking right now. D:
Anyway, yeah. That's something I've always thought of as silly: what Kitzy mentioned. Change a bodypart and suddenly it's suitable for viewing when it wasn't before. AUGH the stupidity makes my brain sad. D: If the characters like one another, why make a big deal out of the gender? Something like that is insignificant in the face of loooove~ <3 |
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sailorharmony2000 Very bored

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 143
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not crazy about yaoi or yuri (did I spell that right? Yuri? Between two females?), but I don't hate on it, either. People have different preferences. I like the character Kurama (in a way, yes, I'm a fangirl, to a certain extent), but I don't want to see him paired with Hiei. At the same time, if I saw fanart of this (and I do all the time), I just move on. No point in ranting over it, as I'd just be wasting my time. Nothing would get done.
The closest to yaoi...well, rather, shonen-ai, was an anime called Loveless. I didn't know that there was a relationship between the two leading males until I saw the first episode. Viewing pictures online makes it a little hard to tell. But with this, it's the story that I'm interested in...not the two males together. _________________ Fools aren't born; pretty girls make them in their spare time.
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bloodblackrose Rookie

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 32 Location: in hell
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Everyone here cares less about you than you about this forum, good job! Keep it up, babe. [/quote] ya i don cair so im leaveing oh and no one calls me babe !! |
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Zekk Forum Stalker

Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 1250 Location: At the gym, squatting in the curl rack
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="bloodblackrose"][quote]Everyone here cares less about you than you about this forum, good job! Keep it up, babe. [/quote] ya i don cair so im leaveing oh and no one calls me babe !![/quote]
They just did, babe. And so did I. Really no one gives a shit about your mega religious views. Your just some other idiotic christian kid. Go jack off, or finger fuck if your a girl, to the bible and leave us the fuck alone. |
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Black_Breeze Newb

Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 21 Location: 10th kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's mostly because that it's different, and hasn't really been accepted in society yet. Besides, for the longest time, I've seen men loving to see women kiss each other, and vise versa. People are just naturally aroused by it, for some odd reason [not they like to admit it]. D:
It doesn't disgust me, and I'm fine reading about it. But if it turns hardcore sex [yaoi/yuri or not], then I'm not going to read the manga anymore. Just not comfortable seeing that. xDD |
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KottaChan Newb

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I see no problem with liking Yaoi. You know in some of the shows it's never actually going to happen, so why be so against it? It's just something people like to do in their spare time I guess. xD |
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Brianhjh

Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 8014 Location: Queen's University
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I love yaoi done by male artists, I don't know why. I find it adorable. Shoot me. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Brianhjh/emesprani151.gif[/img] "Sarah's future makes me sad." - Benk |
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Touzoku-joou Oldbie

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2399 Location: interweb
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Brianhjh"]I love yaoi done by male artists, I don't know why. I find it adorable. Shoot me.[/quote]
Possibly because male artists understand the male psyche better, and can make the couples more believable? _________________ [url=http://www.fanart-central.net/user-Touzoku-Joou.php]FAC[/url] |
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SilverKitsune Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 5898 Location: whittier, CA, Los Angels
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Kitzy"]The topic's not about marriage or -being- gay, it's about reading/watching/looking at Yaoi.
[quote]ya i do think straight romance stories are nicer and i think people get so picky is beacuse of religon and how they are rased* as a kid.
now me i have stoped looking at yaoi[/quote] would have sufficed.
I'm not exactly sure why all these people have such a problem with it...
It's kind of closed-minded of people to go and read 'romance' things and not even -consider- a good story just because the people are gay. If it's said to be good, should the gender really matter? o_O
As for yaoi pictures, all you really have to do to make it 'suitable' for your viewing if you're so against yaoi is change one of the guy's boy parts to girl parts, and there you go.[/quote]
True.
I made my brother read gravitation. He said he would never read it cause it had two guys in it and he wasn't gay. Then I told him to just pretend shuichi was a girl (he looked like one anyways) and sure enough, he loved the book and read it to the end. muahah. _________________ [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/I_Lov_Asian_Men/phoenixsig.jpg[/img]
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SilverKitsune Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 5898 Location: whittier, CA, Los Angels
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Black_Breeze"]I think it's mostly because that it's different, and hasn't really been accepted in society yet. Besides, for the longest time, I've seen men loving to see women kiss each other, and vise versa. People are just naturally aroused by it, for some odd reason [not they like to admit it]. D:
It doesn't disgust me, and I'm fine reading about it. But if it turns hardcore sex [yaoi/yuri or not], then I'm not going to read the manga anymore. Just not comfortable seeing that. xDD[/quote]
Once I see that there is some hardcore lovin' , I read even more >=D _________________ [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/I_Lov_Asian_Men/phoenixsig.jpg[/img]
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"Your a bird, I'm a cat of the jungle. Birds can't get pregnant last I checked. They lay eggs."[/b] |
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BlackPaint Very bored

Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 254 Location: a chair
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I used to totally hate yaoi, but I was seeing it so much that I slowly began to like it. Now I'm obbsessive over it. I don't really draw much fanart yaoi(like yaoi from anime characters) I draw alot of original yaoi though. For some reason I see gay relationships better than straight ones. I mean, ok, so you have a nice tough super hott seme. And a young cute little uke who is ravaged from his life and is now gay. That seme could easily find a girl if he wanted to and he'd be fine with it, but what about the poor little uke?
I seem to find girls way to shallow in animes. They obbsess over the cute guys and whatnot. Same as in real life.
Now, I do quite like the bishounen myself, but that doesn't mean that I hate all other characters. I actually happen to be a fan of Gluttony from FMA.
I am a supporter of gay rights, for both men and women, you can't help who you fall in love with. And love is love, no matter if it's gay or straight. _________________ Strive for your dreams...what else is there to live for?
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KiraUchiha Newb

Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really give a damn about yaoi/yuri. I don't adore it or crave for it, but I will read a story with it if it is included. For example - Kaori Yuki has some, what one may say as awkward couplings. The brother infatuated with his sister in Angel Sanctuary, and the somewhat suggestive situations between Cain and Riff in the Cain Saga and Godchild (although I've been seeing them more as very close and affectionate friends than actual lovers, especially with Cain's womanizing traits) or the random yaoi pairings in Sam Sung Parks's Tarot Cafe. I have read all these mangas and find them all brilliantly entertaining (along with some exceptionally beautiful art) and I didn't put them down because of the pairings or suggestive activity.
As for gay/lesbian marriages, even though I am a Catholic, I think that what's really important is that you love and respect each other, no matter what the gender. People have the right to make their own personal choices. I believe that if God made us so, then he would be tolerant of it too - as long as it is truly passionate and trustworthy. So if you strict catholics think of it that way, it's not as difficult to accept it.
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ClimaxTogether Newb

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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The funny thing with most Yaoi fans is that they are often underage fangirls who never even looked at real gay porn before and would be totally shocked if they ever saw it.
I don’t mind Yaoi at all, neither do I mind Yuri. I mind the rabid fangirls who start OOC-ing well known characters to fit their adolescent little fantasies.
There’s no way Harry would sneak off to secretly boink the shit out of Snape in a cauldron and get pregnant afterwards. It’s stuff like that that annoys me.
Yaoi is attractive because it always involves two extremely beautiful men loving each other. For a woman that is hot, just as two pretty females together arouse the minds of most men.
Simple.
As a side note: telling the world you don’t mind Yaoi but hate Yuri is not only hypocritical, it shows your lack of maturity as well.
And as another side note: I had this thing all typed out en then just realised how old this thread is, sorry ‘bout that >_< |
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SexySpoonsWillRuleUsAll Rookie

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I for one love yaoi and yuri.
I think part of it is the taboo. People do tend to secretly like things that are "wrong" (And yes, I feel like bitch-slapping myself about now).
I'll use the "it's cute/hawt" excuse too. But, in some cases, those pairings really would benefit the characters, making them stronger or more stable and what-not.
[quote="ClimaxTogether"]I mind the rabid fangirls who start OOC-ing well known characters to fit their adolescent little fantasies.
There’s no way Harry would sneak off to secretly boink the s**t out of Snape in a cauldron and get pregnant afterwards. It’s stuff like that that annoys me. [/quote]
Yeah, there is no way Harry would sneak off to secretly boink the s**t out of Snape in a cauldron and get pregnant afterwards. In all honesty, that doesn't appeal to me, but it can be fun to see well-known and idolized characters acting in ways they never would with people they never would. I think characters being OoC is just a part of fanfiction - you can't know for sure how a character will react in a certain situation unless it happens in the cannon exactly like that. |
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funkymonkey05 Member

Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 72
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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i totally hate yaoi! its just odd to me. |
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SilverKitsune Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 5898 Location: whittier, CA, Los Angels
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you hate it. _________________ [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/I_Lov_Asian_Men/phoenixsig.jpg[/img]
[b]xAmiDarkfieldx wrote:
"Your a bird, I'm a cat of the jungle. Birds can't get pregnant last I checked. They lay eggs."[/b] |
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SexySpoonsWillRuleUsAll Rookie

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's pretty unreasinable to hate something just because you think it's weird.
It's not. It's natural, otherwise it wouldn't happen. And if people like extending sexuality issues to anime, it's their choice. This has always been an issue of "if you don't like, don't read/watch."
...wait, it's natural to fear what you don't understand, right? Um... well... it's still not very smart! |
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BlackPaint Very bored

Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 254 Location: a chair
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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If people always hated things that were weird, than I'd be hating myself _________________ Strive for your dreams...what else is there to live for?
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