Flammer

Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Flammer

Could you please stop and punish a certain flammer here on FAC?! She's annoying, and she has no artwork, and all she does is rudely criticize other people's art without taking their feelings into consideration. If you take a look at her full profile comments, you'll see that many people are angry with her; including me.

Should I PM a Moderator her name?

Kes · Forum Stalker Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 1549 Location: UK

Got the same thing on fanfiction.net but can't delete comments, that really piss' me off.
Report her name to the abuse team and let them deal with her.
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Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject:

[quote="Kes"]Got the same thing on fanfiction.net but can't delete comments, that really piss' me off.
Report her name to the abuse team and let them deal with her.[/quote]

Would have PM-ing Stratadrake and cstdenis have been okay?

Falconlobo · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject:

she won't let up she is repeating the same flame over and over again

she is an anoyance who can't take leave me alone for an answer

she is also insulting me on her profile and mine

Stratadrake · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:

This is the type of thing that we need a block list for. And the ability to view all comments posted by a given user (regardless of where).

It's hard to respond without a link to the actual (original) comment, i.e. whichever picture it was posted on.
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Falconlobo · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject:

she is still insulting me on her profile and getiing Ravenpelt in on it to

no i am 30 an i consider this saying to shut up calling me names like Idiot and saying i am 9 is harasement and clearly you are not taking Stratadrakes warnings into account she keeps commenting junk on my profile and hers about me which is unaceptible conduct and harrasment

Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject:

Well, the flammer claims that she hasn't done anything wrong, but she and her friend just flames people's artwork for fun. She claims that it's "constructive criticism". It's more like "destructive criticism".

She hasn't said anything on my pics but she has on my profile and Falconlobo's. I deleted most of her comments on my profile, though.

If you take a look at the flammer's profile, you will find many people who are upset with her and her friend's ridiculous flamming.

She has no pics. She has been on here since last summer, and she has no pics yet. She probably just joined because her art sucks (she keeps PhotoBucketing the same picture in her replies), and she attacks everyone whose art is better than hers.

I told her that some people may draw well than others, but that is no reason to beat them down over it.

This is what she does. Here's an example I made up:

(Normal person:) Well, your proportion's slightly off, but she can probably practice to make it look better. It's still a good pic. ^_^

(The Flammer) OM MY GOD! That's the ugliest picture I've ever seen! Your art sucks, and I recommend going to art school. Where did you learn to draw? Kindergarten?! Your art's so horrible I want to throw up!

See? It's nonsense.

She claims that if she's banned from FAC, she'll just go and create another account.

Falconlobo · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject:

she keeps spaming my profile and says my art is no good and calls me childish when

she herlsef was the one spamming me with insults and i said nothing to her

to deserve that kind of treatment other than leave me alone

she 's the one with insults like telling me to shut up calling me and idiot

getting others to flame my pics Let Your Heart Sore This V Day

was flamed by Ravenpelt after benk flamed my profile repeadily and He is in on it too

cuse after that

he said all my art was funny and sloppy and he does not know why people comment on it

i replied let people liker what they like

then she insults my profile again and agian

it's annoying telling someone to leave me be and they won't take no for an answer

i consider it harasment

when i ask her to leave me alone and she won't let up

Falconlobo · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject:

[quote="Stratadrake"]This is the type of thing that we need a block list for. And the ability to view all comments posted by a given user (regardless of where).

It's hard to respond without a link to the actual (original) comment, i.e. whichever picture it was posted on.[/quote]

this is Binks rebuttle to us on her profile is this considerd harasement cuse it refers to me and other people who just want to draw art thierr own way

it's utter garbage

I'm going to have a set of rules and question answers up here for you idiots

1. How dare you say my art is bad, I hate you forever!

These type of people are generally being stupid, I tell people what they are doing wrong, and it doesn't matter If I call it horrible, because that means that it really is.

2. Can we be friends?

In the words of Ravenpelt, "Thats like saying, 'hey! can I murder you?"

3. You can't criticize peoples art unless you have some posted

I swear, I fucking hate that one, I can draw, and I think I can do that damn well, fact is, I only post on forums for the soul purpose of getting criticised, and when I do post art on a website, its going to be deviant.

so only her opinions matter and no one elses execpt those who chose to sapm and harrass that's messed up Benk's the one who sapmmed my profile when i was not even on

Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

I kept telling her to shut up and leave me and Falconlobo alone last night but she said she would report me for spamming. Mad

Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject:

[quote]Shit! These people are not only trying to report me (Falconlobo's art sucked, so I told her) but are reporting you too.

I told her it was horrible, the color and anatomy was shameful, and that she should find a tutorial on deviantart[/quote]

She said that on Ravenpelt's profile.

Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject:

lolz, pm me the name, I'm gonna see if this person's actually flaming or just dicking around.
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Falconlobo · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject:

i never reported her and she kept spamming my profile with insults to me an others commenting on my profile

Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject:

lolz, this shit is funny.

Edward_Erlic, you're being an idiot by giving her just more things to "flame", and you're horrible at "getting back" at someone, either shut up or get better at arguing.

I've read multiple replies... and holy shit, you people are sensitive as fuck. If someone tell you that your art needs to improve, 99 percent chance is that they are right, and this applies to pretty much everyone. [b]They don't need to have art in their gallery for their opinion to be valid.[/b] Although it's true that they are much more believable if they have good art. Are their critique valuable for me or not? It's a decision you have to make yourself. Art is judged by the masses who do not know you personally nor do they care about your problems in your personal life. Art is an art is an art, your skills perceived by the public in one or two pieces matter, not what your friends and family think.

Every single one of us in this thread needs to get better, listen to whatever the flamer has to say, and ignore if they are talking about something completely irrelevant you know and you can prove it does not exist. However, glancing over her comments, it has aspects of truths.

Go away and do some art.
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Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:

[quote="Brianhjh"]lolz, this s**t is funny.

Edward_Erlic, you're being an idiot by giving her just more things to "flame", and you're horrible at "getting back" at someone, either shut up or get better at arguing.

I've read multiple replies... and holy s**t, you people are sensitive as f**k. If someone tell you that your art needs to improve, 99 percent chance is that they are right, and this applies to pretty much everyone. [b]They don't need to have art in their gallery for their opinion to be valid.[/b] Although it's true that they are much more believable if they have good art. Are their critique valuable for me or not? It's a decision you have to make yourself. Art is judged by the masses who do not know you personally nor do they care about your problems in your personal life. Art is an art is an art, your skills perceived by the public in one or two pieces matter, not what your friends and family think.

Every single one of us in this thread needs to get better, listen to whatever the flamer has to say, and ignore if they are talking about something completely irrelevant you know and you can prove it does not exist. However, glancing over her comments, it has aspects of truths.

Go away and do some art.[/quote]

She's still insulting my friend. She isn't insulting my art. Confused

Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject:

You make your friend look bad.
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Edward_Elric_1308 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

[quote="Brianhjh"]You make your friend look bad.[/quote]

How?

Benk · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 3733

[quote]She hasn't said anything on my pics but she has on my profile and Falconlobo's[/quote]
Thats because I like your pics, I think you are quite a capable artist
[quote]lolz, this s**t is funny.

Edward_Erlic, you're being an idiot by giving her just more things to "flame", and you're horrible at "getting back" at someone, either shut up or get better at arguing.

I've read multiple replies... and holy s**t, you people are sensitive as f**k. If someone tell you that your art needs to improve, 99 percent chance is that they are right, and this applies to pretty much everyone. They don't need to have art in their gallery for their opinion to be valid. Although it's true that they are much more believable if they have good art. Are their critique valuable for me or not? It's a decision you have to make yourself. Art is judged by the masses who do not know you personally nor do they care about your problems in your personal life. Art is an art is an art, your skills perceived by the public in one or two pieces matter, not what your friends and family think.

Every single one of us in this thread needs to get better, listen to whatever the flamer has to say, and ignore if they are talking about something completely irrelevant you know and you can prove it does not exist. However, glancing over her comments, it has aspects of truths.

Go away and do some art.[/quote]

THANK YOU!

Stratadrake · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject:

[quote]She claims that it's "constructive criticism". It's more like "destructive criticism".[/quote]
But I have to agree with this sentiment. Constructive criticism is a two-edged sword in that if the recipient can't endure it, then it automatically becomes [i]de[/i]structive. True points or not, if it becomes disruptive, it's a problem.
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Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject:

How is the "giver" supposed to know that?

What she said isn't half as bad as HAHA21 last year, and even then I thought he had tenderness of a bowl of kittens.

I don't like this decreasing threshold of sensitivity in the site. Everybody thinks everything is offensive when they first get criticisms of any kind. These people will get used to them. Grow up.
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