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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Brianhjh"]How is the "giver" supposed to know that?
What she said isn't half as bad as HAHA21 last year, and even then I thought he had tenderness of a bowl of kittens.
I don't like this decreasing threshold of sensitivity in the site. Everybody thinks everything is offensive when they first get criticisms of any kind. These people will get used to them. Grow up.[/quote]
True, thats why I post pictures on gaia and such, I know I'll actually be criticised, where on here only Raven, hateful and STHA would crit me |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]I don't like this decreasing threshold of sensitivity in the site. Everybody thinks everything is offensive when they first get criticisms of any kind. These people will get used to them. Grow up.[/quote]
Conversely, I don't like this "acid test" view of criticism either, where if you can't take the heat then get off the site.
Obviously, it takes a lot of time and practice for any artist to improve their skills, and the ability to withstand criticism is a skill just the same.
True criticism or otherwise, it's hardly constructive if someone gets their kicks off of putting other users down on a persistent or daily basis. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Stratadrake"][quote]I don't like this decreasing threshold of sensitivity in the site. Everybody thinks everything is offensive when they first get criticisms of any kind. These people will get used to them. Grow up.[/quote]
Conversely, I don't like this "acid test" view of criticism either, where if you can't take the heat then get off the site.
Obviously, it takes a lot of time and practice for any artist to improve their skills, and the ability to withstand criticism is a skill just the same.
True criticism or otherwise, it's hardly constructive if someone gets their kicks off of putting other users down on a persistent or daily basis.[/quote]
To be quite honest, I don't think I'm very mean until they get mad at me after the first post, then I tell them to shut the hell up. I don't think I've told anyone to get off the website though(with one exception) |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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In that case, remember it takes two to pick a fight. If they find the first comment offensive, don't give them a second one to take offense at. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Brianhjh

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Better to let them down than art college admission laughing at their face. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Brianhjh/emesprani151.gif[/img] "Sarah's future makes me sad." - Benk |
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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Brianhjh"]Better to let them down than art college admission laughing at their face.[/quote]
Heehee, true
[quote]In that case, remember it takes two to pick a fight. If they find the first comment offensive, don't give them a second one to take offense at.[/quote]
Hm... I suppose you ARE right, but it is hard not to question them when all that they do is call me a jerk and then be quiet |
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Brianhjh

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Benk Elder In Training

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Edward_Elric_1308 Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever. Ok. I don't feel like talking anymore; close this thread?  |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Better to let them down than art college admission laughing at their face.[/quote]
An art college is more likely to send them a form-letter rejection notice. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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[quote]An art college is more likely to send them a form-letter rejection notice.[/quote]
Yeah, but apparently they scan the worst ones and hang them up to laugh at |
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Edward_Elric_1308 Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Falconlobo obviously has found Bent's comment offensive.
It would be nice if you would stop commenting to her and just move on.  |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. Benk, you may want to use the answer to this question as a rule of thumb:
[quote="Brianhjh"]How is the "giver" supposed to know that?[/quote]
When in doubt, assume that the person's ability to endure criticism is the same as their artistic skill level. In other words, if they don't have much skill in art as of yet, assume they won't stand for much criticism of it. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Stratadrake"]Agreed. Benk, you may want to use the answer to this question as a rule of thumb:
[quote="Brianhjh"]How is the "giver" supposed to know that?[/quote]
When in doubt, assume that the person's ability to endure criticism is the same as their artistic skill level. In other words, if they don't have much skill in art as of yet, assume they won't stand for much criticism of it.[/quote]
Wow, actually thats really smart. Sorry that I never thought about that, thanks for the tip |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Being able to withstand criticism is a skill that must be learned too, but you can't "force" someone to learn it. If someone doesn't want a critique, then giving them one is not going to help them any. (We could use an option like dA has to specify this.)
But, maybe you'd like to give a hand in the "Critique panel" forum area? _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Benk Elder In Training

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Stratadrake"]Being able to withstand criticism is a skill that must be learned too, but you can't "force" someone to learn it. If someone doesn't want a critique, then giving them one is not going to help them any. (We could use an option like dA has to specify this.)
But, maybe you'd like to give a hand in the "Critique panel" forum area?[/quote]
I didn't know there was a critique panel, I rarely venture into the forums at all.
In fact, I came here to make a suggestion (Which I realized would actually be very hard for you guys to manage and I decided against it) when I saw this. |
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