Religions

UltimaMewtwo · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject:

They're what now?

Anyway, I have Christianity as my base religion, but I'm open minded and believe in things not normally believed in by others of single religions. Spirits (or ghosts most of you like to call them), and a variation of reincarnation (like where you choose to have another life or get a second chance), and whatnot. I don't know if there's a certain name for what I am, but I am also of Native American blood. Though I won't go any farther in case someone will want to debate to me of what I'm saying going "Where's your proof? You're just a teen, you're doing this because you think it's cool." I've seen a lot of that so, being a stereotyped teen can get quite annoying. Just to humor you guys, I'm 16.

On a side note, I haven't gone to church in a few years so, I'm not going "PRAISE THE LORD! PRAISE THE LORD! WORSHIP! WORSHIP! SING! CHRISTIAN ROCK!" If a higher form is there, I'll thank it for giving me life, and letting me go on. I care, but I don't need to kiss up like those Christian rock singers, and damn, are their commercials annoying. I can't believe in something in need of constant praise. Why have a conceited higher form that wants it all about it? If it knows I care, and thank it for what it did, isn't that enough?

I'm only saying higher form because I want it to cover the basis of most religions, and even though I'm "Christian," I want it to sound fair to everyone else compared to saying God the whole time through. Well, religion doesn't have exact proof of things higher above, now does it? Razz

Well, this was more of a rant than a statement. Razz

Anyway, let's move on.
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bowiegranap · Very bored Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 218

[quote="Dewroo"]But is there a god?[/quote]

If there isn't, deists are living a pathetic, pointless existence.

If there is, atheists are screwed for the rest of eternity.

Pascal FTW.

Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

In the young people of America, I think there actually is a large increase of Atheists and wiccans/wannabe-Satanists. It's just not cool to be Christian, DUH. Which is ironic, because most of those queer wannabe anti-conformist kids will call you a stupid sheep for being Christian, when it is really the opposite. A lot more in the young community though, not reaching into politics and social standards. I believe that in the future there will be a LOT less religion, which is sad to me.

I am Presbyterian.

Benk · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 3733

I [i]love[/i] that idea

I think people would be smarter if that happened. But, as far as I can tell, you're referring to the emos. I think its a stupid fad, but I am glad that they are conforming away from religion. I know I won't force them to do anything, but I like the idea of moving away from Christianity. Hehe, as stupid as they all are, once they give up on the emo fad I think they'll be pretty intelligent and open minded people.

UltimaMewtwo · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject:

You've gotta think that the human body didn't become so intriquite on accident so, something had to have pushed things along.
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Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

[quote="Benk"]I [i]love[/i] that idea

I think people would be smarter if that happened. But, as far as I can tell, you're referring to the emos. I think its a stupid fad, but I am glad that they are conforming away from religion. I know I won't force them to do anything, but I like the idea of moving away from Christianity. Hehe, as stupid as they all are, once they give up on the emo fad I think they'll be pretty intelligent and open minded people.[/quote]

No, you don't understand at all. You honestly think it's good that stupid shits are leaving their religions because of a fad? Do you really think that the fact they say they are wiccan/athiest has ANYTHING to do with what they actually believe? You obviously don't understand the mindset of these emo kids.

Brianhjh · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject:

When I used to live in Songnam, South Korea, my family went to a Catholic church for years, then when we came to Waterloo, Canada, we stopped going to church for good, my mom still attends irregularly for shitz n' giggles, a Presbyterian one at that.

Currently I am an atheist but not comfortable saying it because it's not usual for Asians to identify themselves with religions, even when we were going to the catholic church, everybody in it also went to buddhists' festivals and vice versa.

and:

[quote]In the young people of America, I think there actually is a large increase of Atheists and wiccans/wannabe-Satanists. It's just not cool to be Christian, DUH. Which is ironic, because most of those queer wannabe anti-conformist kids will call you a stupid sheep for being Christian, when it is really the opposite. A lot more in the young community though, not reaching into politics and social standards. I believe that in the future there will be a LOT less religion, which is sad to me. [/quote]

lol, yeah, because religious convictions when you're 13 matter.

I bet all these kidz pretending black eyeliners during the summer is a good thing will continue to worship satanz as they grow up, people don't change at all.

And yeah, you definitely understand the mindsets of these emo kids too! you can identify with the, right?
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London · Moderator Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 6474

Religion in America is on the rise. Any emo kids who grow up to be godless animal sacrificers are too small in number to have any effect on the general trend at all.

Is this religion thread going to spiral into a debate on evolution and creationism, too? I'd love that.

Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

[quote]lol, yeah, because religious convictions when you're 13 matter.

I bet all these kidz pretending black eyeliners during the summer is a good thing will continue to worship satanz as they grow up, people don't change at all.

And yeah, you definitely understand the mindsets of these emo kids too! you can identify with the, right?[/quote]

Hey man, habits die hard. Chances are these kids are either growing up in Atheist homes, have something against the church, or just simply don't care. They may not be Satanists when they grow up, but I doubt they will have any reason to turn Christian again.

Brian, why do you always have to jump straight to being an ass? Do you ever just discuss things with people?

Benk · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 3733

I have an emo friend that goes on about how god wasn't doing anything about WWII and such. She doesn't believe he exists but goes to a catholic church by force of her parents

Brianhjh · Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject:

[quote="Haze"][quote]lol, yeah, because religious convictions when you're 13 matter.

I bet all these kidz pretending black eyeliners during the summer is a good thing will continue to worship satanz as they grow up, people don't change at all.

And yeah, you definitely understand the mindsets of these emo kids too! you can identify with the, right?[/quote]

Hey man, habits die hard. Chances are these kids are either growing up in Atheist homes, have something against the church, or just simply don't care. They may not be Satanists when they grow up, but I doubt they will have any reason to turn Christian again.

Brian, why do you always have to jump straight to being an ass? Do you ever just discuss things with people?[/quote]

Read what you even post in the first place, if they WERE brought up in atheist homes, it wouldn't be considered turn to Christian faith [b]again.[/b] and They're satanists now? so you're saying emo=satanists, goths=satanists, how little you know.

Habits and Fads are different things, and I never said that they were habits, it was you who called it a fad in the first place, stop putting words in my mouth.

And do you jump into pm'ing people for shitz and giggles on the first day you return to random? I don't even remember Bahlog, but you're determined to make everybody guess who you were, apparently because you think so highly of yourself.
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Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

[quote]Read what you even post in the first place, if they WERE brought up in atheist homes, it wouldn't be considered turn to Christian faith [b]again.[/b] and They're satanists now? so you're saying emo=satanists, goths=satanists, how little you know.

Habits and Fads are different things, and I never said that they were habits, it was you who called it a fad in the first place, stop putting words in my mouth[/quote]

Umm okay.. read my last post again a [i]bit[/i] harder. I said they may have something against the church, or just don't care about religions. If they have something against Christianity or don't care about it, does that mean that they couldn't have grown up in Christian homes, and couldn't have been Christian at one point? Oh, and where exactly in my last post did I say that I thought emos=Satanists? I don't think that, and I never said that.

Jtlats · Member Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 97

Oh yes we all must be Christians!

*Goes to Methodist Church* "NOOO!!!!! Thats the wrong kind of Christian! You'll go to hell if you worship there!!!!!!" *Goes to Luthern Church* "NOOO!!!!! Thats the wrong kind of Christian! You'll go to hell if you worship there!!!!!!" *Goes to Presbytarian Church* "NOOO!!!!! Thats the wrong kind of Christian! You'll go to hell if you worship there!!!!!!" *Goes to Protestant Church* "NOOO!!!!! Thats the wrong kind of Christian! You'll go to hell if you worship there!!!!!!" *Goes to Catholic Church* "There you go, now bend over for Father McGrady."

Brianhjh · Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject:

[quote="Haze"][quote]Read what you even post in the first place, if they WERE brought up in atheist homes, it wouldn't be considered turn to Christian faith [b]again.[/b] and They're satanists now? so you're saying emo=satanists, goths=satanists, how little you know.

Habits and Fads are different things, and I never said that they were habits, it was you who called it a fad in the first place, stop putting words in my mouth[/quote]

Umm okay.. read my last post again a [i]bit[/i] harder. I said they may have something against the church, or just don't care about religions. If they have something against Christianity or don't care about it, does that mean that they couldn't have grown up in Christian homes, and couldn't have been Christian at one point? Oh, and where exactly in my last post did I say that I thought emos=Satanists? I don't think that, and I never said that.[/quote]

A lot of kids pretending to be all dark and scary nearly all fall into goths and emos, there's no groups of kids in schools pretending to be satanists and go around sacrificing lambs at altars, except in movies and observation from a conservative and alarmist parent who want to scare everybody of today's "Secular school system" and the dangers of not preaching in school - creating little satans everywhere who'll make bread out of your babies. So, you're either 40-something hysteric, bible-thumping bigot or someone who likes to exaggerate what most of the kids in school are just to get your point across. Because you meant that all the kids who have a vendetta against Christianity was going to grow up into little satans because "habits are hard to change".

And another thing you said that interested me. You said that these kids, well, some of them, grew up "as a Christian" and are not Christian any more. You are not BORN Christian, although a lot of parents, once again, would like to believe that because they don't want to believe their children burn in all eternity, or so they say. Little kids should never be considered to have religion of any sort, they believe in Tooth faeries for fucking sakes. Do you like it when people are bred to believe what you believe? When little kids who can't tell the difference between Jesus and Charles Manson go around saying that they're Christians because their parents told them? Do their presence add to some metaphysical statistics of number of Christians?

Or maybe, I completely misunderstood what you said, I think you should go back to doing pm's again. I think you're having a bit of trouble trying to convince a group of able people, bitching at one person should be easier for you.
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Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

[quote="Brianhjh"][quote="Haze"][quote]Read what you even post in the first place, if they WERE brought up in atheist homes, it wouldn't be considered turn to Christian faith [b]again.[/b] and They're satanists now? so you're saying emo=satanists, goths=satanists, how little you know.

Habits and Fads are different things, and I never said that they were habits, it was you who called it a fad in the first place, stop putting words in my mouth[/quote]

Umm okay.. read my last post again a [i]bit[/i] harder. I said they may have something against the church, or just don't care about religions. If they have something against Christianity or don't care about it, does that mean that they couldn't have grown up in Christian homes, and couldn't have been Christian at one point? Oh, and where exactly in my last post did I say that I thought emos=Satanists? I don't think that, and I never said that.[/quote]

A lot of kids pretending to be all dark and scary nearly all fall into goths and emos, there's no groups of kids in schools pretending to be satanists and go around sacrificing lambs at altars, except in movies and observation from a conservative and alarmist parent who want to scare everybody of today's "Secular school system" and the dangers of not preaching in school - creating little satans everywhere who'll make bread out of your babies. So, you're either 40-something hysteric, bible-thumping bigot or someone who likes to exaggerate what most of the kids in school are just to get your point across. Because you meant that all the kids who have a vendetta against Christianity was going to grow up into little satans because "habits are hard to change".

And another thing you said that interested me. You said that these kids, well, some of them, grew up "as a Christian" and are not Christian any more. You are not BORN Christian, although a lot of parents, once again, would like to believe that because they don't want to believe their children burn in all eternity, or so they say. Little kids should never be considered to have religion of any sort, they believe in Tooth faeries for f***ing sakes. Do you like it when people are bred to believe what you believe? When little kids who can't tell the difference between Jesus and Charles Manson go around saying that they're Christians because their parents told them? Do their presence add to some metaphysical statistics of number of Christians?

Or maybe, I completely misunderstood what you said, I think you should go back to doing pm's again. I think you're having a bit of trouble trying to convince a group of able people, bitching at one person should be easier for you.[/quote]

Ok, there was obviously some kind of misinterpretation on your part, because you are not getting me at all. I DO NOT believe that there are many kids out there right now sacrificing animals, or any kind of that crazy shit. What I have been trying to say all along, is that it’s not cool to part of an organized religion, unless that religion is wannabe-Satanism. And since so many kids have that mentality, I believe in the future there will be much less religion. I really, really, don’t get why you think I am saying that in the future there will be nothing but psychotic lamb rapists and baby killers because right now a select maybe handful of kids say the do that. It’s always been cool to be a rebel, but with these fads, a whole lot of it is just specifically against Christianity. I’m all for free thinking, but I don’t think it’s good to be a little sheep and saying something sucks because everyone around you is saying it (yeah Brian, you can go ahead and try to exploit that comment in some way that will offend me for my religious beliefs.) Hell, they even devoted a whole genre of music with almost nothing but anti Christian themes. Brian, just please re-read some of my comments, because you’re not getting me. Or maybe I said something wrong at some point.

I don’t like talking like this, because right now I probably sound like one of those people who hate everyone who isn’t Christian, or don’t do lot’s of things because they defy Christian beliefs. That’s not me, I know that’s what I sound like with that post, but that’s really not me. You can keep condescendingly mocking me Brian, I really couldn’t care less.

Benk · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 3733

They're trying to be non conforming, so they don't want to be part of a conforming religion. Christianity is strict and stupid at many times. The genres of music are made because some of the children are put down for leaving Christianity by parents or just some random religious freak.

Haze · Still very bored Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 398

[quote="Benk"]They're trying to be non conforming, so they don't want to be part of a conforming religion. Christianity is strict and stupid at many times. The genres of music are made because some of the children are put down for leaving Christianity by parents or just some random religious freak.[/quote]

You see, they are trying, but definitely not succeeding. How is it that a person is a non-conformist if they wear black makeup and draw pentagrams on their hands just because their buds did it and it looks omg soo badass. They are just little sheep. Catholics and Evangelists are strict and stupid many times. Of course I can't vouch for everyone, but I can't imagine anyone in my Church putting some one down because of their religious beliefs, sexuality, or culture. That type of music was made because of the fad hanging around right now. Besides a few bands, it has no substance. Most of it is just "I RAPED THE VIRGIN MARY AND HUNG THE BASTARD CHRIST" 50x over.

Benk · Elder In Training Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 3733

I actually agree completely. See, this is why I don't bother with the make up and shit. They have the right idea, but they're going about it all wrong.

As for the music: Yes, some of them are truly idiotic like that, but others are rather deep.

UltimaMewtwo · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:08 am Post subject:

Sorry to have this short off-topic comment, but why did this thread have to be brought back up a month after it should have ended?

Currently it seems like it's circling around today's trends, religions and other crap. I may believe in some things, but most times religion is used to explain things the normal person can't. Also, I won't go to hell for "not buying your bible."

Besides, a lot of today's crap is just a bunch of fads so, they'll pass...or become some cults.
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