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Necroangel Member
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 59 Location: The leaf village, spying on Kiba and Shino making out, with much nosebleed
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: Haku's (Naruto) gender |
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Ok...I've read quite a debate on whether Haku from the Naruto series is male or female, it confuses the hell outta me, let me tell you that...
Ok, this is my opinion on it.
I think that the creator of Naruto, which is basical a shonen show, wanted to attaract an equil amount of female fans to this series. An easy way to do that was to create a 'romance' within the show, not one too major though or he might risk the majority of viewers (the shonen) to back away from it. Now, this is just what I think but personaly, as a female, shonen-ai is much loved. Especialy when it comes from a type of series you're not likely to find it in.
Great idea, but it does pose problems, male watchers of the show be made extremmly uncomfortable if they had to watch two obviously male charaters in a romantic setting.
How do you solve this, you ask? Well simplely make one of the males in the pairing so utterly womanly people would confuse his gender. Boys watching the series and picking up on the romance would take a charater such as Haku to be female, thus avoiding awcardness and distaste.
The creator of Naruto was extremmly wise, not only did he make Haku to be utterly female in appearance, but female in every aspect aside from his address. You get 'bishi' charaters, those are extremmly popular and in just about every anime I've seen so far. But most, are usally not voiced by a female voice actor or act in such a feminine manner as our Haku-kun.
Everything about Haku is female, his dress, his voice, his emotions, actions ect. And has been mistaken for a female many times. Ah but this is where I really get confused, surely Zabuza would want to produce more powerful advanced bloodline limit ninja's to be at his command? If Haku was indeed female then Zabuza would undoubtedly want to bare a powerful advanced bloodlined child with her.
As a female and advid "Fujoshi" (Female interested in yaoi and such) I would want to think of Haku as a male, thus making the pairing 'shonen ai'. Typical shonen ai and yaoi have two types of males involved in the romance, the 'seme'(more masculine male in pairing) and the 'uke'(the bishonen, or pretty boy). The thing here was to make the 'uke' as feminine as possible, making the Haku-Zabu thing seem like a 'normal' hetrosexual romantic interest.
Haku obvoiously has a deep affiction and love for Zabuza, you'd have to be daft to not noticed it. Haku's attraction to Zabuza is shown thoughout the anime and manga, with the famous following sceane:
Haku has just rescued Zabuza from the fight with Kakashi, Zabuza asks why Haku did not focus on a less leathal part of his body than his neck, Haku is quoted saying, "I did not want to scar your beautiful/perfect/flawless body, Zabuza-san." Haku said this while blushing. Zabuza added that Haku's pureness and utter innocence was what he "liked about" him, Haku responded with an even deeper blush, stating that as a child that was to be expected of him. While this love appears to be one sided, Zabuza's crying and pouring out of feelings after Haku died states otherwise.
Much to the female fan's disapointment,both Haku and Zabuza died without anything happening between them. However that confermation of their feelings for one another left us with some sort of satisfiment. Haku's gender remains a mistery to me, as both sides offer evidence to Haku being a male or female, I think the fans of Naruto were sappost to come up with a desion that made them feel the most comfortable. Let me know what you think. _________________ Bow before the gothic might of Gaara |
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London Moderator
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I never knew there was a controversy regarding Haku's gender. Haku is male. He said so. Why would he lie?
A lot of male characters are voiced by women, such as Goku from Dragonball and Luffy from One Piece. Both are very clearly male and come from shounen mangas. _________________ [i][size=9]Go Yankees![/size][/i] |
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Jedi Forum Stalker
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Despite my loathing for Naruto, Haku is definately a male. I think even Zabuza said it himself, during a flashback. Might have been in the manga. Heh... even I thought he might be female at one point, so don't worry about it. I'm sure loads did when they saw the anime for the first time.
In anime, some male characters are voiced by female actors. This can happen in the English dub side of it too, and it can fool you if you're not too careful. _________________ The Force will be with you... always. |
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Necroangel Member
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 59 Location: The leaf village, spying on Kiba and Shino making out, with much nosebleed
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Well, I've only been watching anime in Japanese recently so it's easy for me to mistake that It's not wrong however, to display Haku as a female in fanart or fanfiction is it? It's only fandom after all, right?
The issue for me is the shonen ainess of it all didn't want to get too excited if Haku was in fact female
I personally want to think of Haku as a boy, because he is. However I know people who take him as female to ease their discomfort regarding the undertones
I'm just phyked being a Fujoshi and all Kishi was damn clever in regards of Haku ^_^
K some people might come up with their own ideas on the whole relationship between those two but for me it makes me super happy XD _________________ Bow before the gothic might of Gaara |
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London Moderator
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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What is with this sudden infusion of smiley faces? The more smiles you use, the less seriously people will take you.
I don't see why somebody uncomfortable with homosexual relationships would [i]pretend[/i] that one person was a gender which they were not. They're called undertones for a reason, and if you don't like it, you would just ignore it.
What is a fujoshi, and by "phyked" do you mean "psyched?" _________________ [i][size=9]Go Yankees![/size][/i] |
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Edward_Elric_1308 Elder Than Dirt
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Necroangel"]Well, I've only been watching anime in Japanese recently so it's easy for me to mistake that It's not wrong however, to display Haku as a female in fanart or fanfiction is it? It's only fandom after all, right?
The issue for me is the shonen ainess of it all didn't want to get too excited if Haku was in fact female
I personally want to think of Haku as a boy, because he is. However I know people who take him as female to ease their discomfort regarding the undertones
I'm just phyked being a Fujoshi and all Kishi was damn clever in regards of Haku ^_^
K some people might come up with their own ideas on the whole relationship between those two but for me it makes me super happy XD [/quote]
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Brianhjh
Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 8014 Location: Queen's University
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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to everyone who is uncomfortable with this:
if you don't want weird undertones in stuff you watch, then stop watching things that's from outside of your shitty town, which leaves you nothing but Jerry Springer. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Brianhjh/emesprani151.gif[/img] "Sarah's future makes me sad." - Benk |
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Fayore Moderator
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="London"]What is a fujoshi[/quote]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujoshi][u]腐女子。[/u][/url]
I think recently (with younger women) the term isn't as derogatory/depreciative as the wiki article implies.
Anyway, people like that kinda make me ashamed to be interested in BL. :T _________________ [url=http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=15636][img]http://vdexproject.net/p/15636/trainer.png[/img]
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hakutheblindedsoul Still very bored
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 381 Location: In a straight jacket.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Haku is a boy. He calls himself that. Zabuza calls him a boy. Kakashi refers to him as a male, too ( Kakashi also has advanced senses, so that fact that he didn't notice Haku to be a female means that Haku was not female.) Naruto is voiced by a woman in both the English and Japanese dub. Despite the yaoi undertones, nothing (as you stated) happened.
End. Of. Story. _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/shizuru2.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/NatsukiShizuru.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/thMyu.gif[/img] |
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Ick1 Very bored
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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IDK! He's a boy in the manga and a girl in the anime...
[size=24]SO CONFUSING!!![/size] |
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hakutheblindedsoul Still very bored
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Ick1"]IDK! He's a boy in the manga and a girl in the anime...
[size=24]SO CONFUSING!!![/size] [/quote]
Not exactly. In both the manga [i]and[/i] anime, he stated to Naruto that he was, indeed, a boy. Zabuza also referred to him as such.
Why is this a topic of discussion, again? There really isn't (and shouldn't) be any confusion about it... _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/shizuru2.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/NatsukiShizuru.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/thMyu.gif[/img] |
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Ick1 Very bored
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="hakutheblindedsoul"][quote="Ick1"]IDK! He's a boy in the manga and a girl in the anime...
[size=24]SO CONFUSING!!![/size] [/quote]
Not exactly. In both the manga [i]and[/i] anime, he stated to Naruto that he was, indeed, a boy. Zabuza also referred to him as such.
Why is this a topic of discussion, again? There really isn't (and shouldn't) be any confusion about it...[/quote]
I know. I told my sis that I posted this and she said the same thing that you did... my bad! _________________ "All the same, you two blow it at the first sign of trouble, you hear me?" Darry asked.
"You sure don't need an amplifier." Soda said, and stuck his tongue out at the back of Darry's head. I stifled a giggle. If you want to see something funny, It's a tough hood sticking his tongue out at his big brother.
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hakutheblindedsoul Still very bored
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Ick1"]
I know. I told my sis that I posted this and she said the same thing that you did... my bad! [/quote]
No prob! Everyone does something like that every once in a while... _________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/shizuru2.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/NatsukiShizuru.gif[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Nefika/Mai%20HiME%20Otome/thMyu.gif[/img] |
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