Looking For Volunteers

[cstdenis]

There is a fair amount of admin work that needs to be done on this site, and its growing every day.

The following jobs on the site exist/will exist. I'll take nominations/volunteers for people who would be good for these jobs. Too many of the existing staff are too busy to keep up with the sites growth so I need some more.


[b]Category Cleanup[/b] - Moving around pictures and removing stupid categories. This is a temporary job because new pics and categories will be approved.

[b]Abuse Team[/b] - Investigate and act on abuse reports and find new abuse cases (or at least watch for them).

[b]Submission Approval Panel[/b] - Check new submissions and approve them, or reject them if they violate the site's rules.

[b]Forum moderation[/b] - Keep the forum organized and under control and try to help people who post in the help forum. Dont think I really need any more people here but I thought i'd list it anyway. Maybe somebody for the RP forum would be good since I rarely read it.

[b]Chatroom OPs[/b] - Hang out in the chat and keep it under control. Kick spammers and flooders and just generally maintain some basic level or order. Also help people as they need it.


About all these jobs require is free time. If you are busy with work/school/whatever you probably shouldn't bother.


I will take the list of people generated by this thread and discuss them with the existing volunteers and apply a criteria I have selected to them.
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[DG-sama]

I wouldn't mind helping out. Perhaps with the Approval panel? Most days at school I have a thre hour gap betwwen classes so I have some free time on my hands
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God damn you signature WORK!

[fallenangel]

You know, Denis, soon everyone will be a chat op. If you think the reason there are times with no ops is because none of them have time, quite the contrary. I've been busy lately, yes, but several of the existing ones dislike the earlier hours when there's 20+ kiddos. Just thought you should know. Most of the "responsible" people dislike it. *shrug* So there might be something you're looking for in that category. The person has to be willing to sit and stare at mindless "/me climbs a tree LOL ^_______^" for hours.

And I really am sorry about not being around. My schedule gave me all electives last trimester, thus no homework, but this tri is all core classes. I will take care of abuse reports and anything else as I get time, though. Promise.
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[Lasher]

Well, i would help, but that probably wouldn't be a good idea, considering no one here tells me what the hell is going on, even when it pertains to myself T_T

And the fact that the "kiddo" who are on earlier in the day, aren't being made to go by the rules, because no one wanted to deal with them. When i complained, i said i would, then people complained about me, and no one even asked my opinion really T_T Not to mention someone supposidly "hacked" my username in the chat, or as some people think, i just fucked with the chat on my own (why i don't know, it's common sense people, really)


so more than likely, i'll just end looking at the uploaded and submission list of the day, and just reporting the usual junk to Kately, as i did last night.

That way i don't have to worry about someone biting my head off for no damn reason or giving me a chance to defend myself.

[fallenangel]

Oh I have no problem making kids go by the rules (though lately I haven't been getting home until around 5 due to film editing). But at that time it's ONLY kids in there, so it's either kick them all out or tell them all to stop, in which case they throw tantrums and leave. *shrug* I mean, yeah it's following the rules, but then you have a pretty much empty room.

Though the last few times I've been in there early I warned them all not to be surprised if they're banned when another op is in there. Meh, I dunno. It all comes with the territory of having a site used by lots of younger people (or I guess I should say less "mature" people, since there are plenty of older users who are just as bad and some young ones who are way cool).
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[Powtaz]

omg like, I VOLUNTEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forum moderation! im here like hours every day, itll give me something productive to do at school, when i have time, which is like, 3 or 5 hours a day. minus weekends. lol, i read all the posts, and run into so many stupid ones that should be limited, im like, perfect for the job! well, minus the fact that i myself make stupid posts, but, thats not as bad as the really stupid ones. well, stupid ones can be good.
i was in an rp for the longest time, andddddd, i like to help people out.
chat op, wouldnt really be possible for me, since i cant get in the chatroom from skool.

plus, im like ultra super nice i dont cause problems.

[Lasher]

lol, i'm just waiting for Fallen to reply, i'm surprised she hasn't already jumped on you yet powtaz

and i agree though, you would make a good submission panel, although i think they REALLY need help on the abuse team. The reports are always getting backed up and it requires time to go through them and look into them. I think that would be great for you teo considering you have a few hours to burn inbetween classes and such. Just the other day i had to report a slight problem with kate with someone stealing a character and claiming it as theres. Then of course the person changed the comment under the pic before Kate got to it once they saw my comment i left, telling them off, not to mention they deleted that to, lol.

[fallenangel]

I haven't read the forums since he posted it. Thus my lack of a response.

...What the hell would another forum moderator do?... And as far as Pow being one goes, you realize the kinds of "stupid" posts that on a more strict forum would be deleted include half of yours that are completely unproductive. Kind of hypocritical to delete posts for being "stupid" in your case (and rather pointless, if it's not spamming).

As for the abuse team, there are already one or two more people who are to (or should be) added soon. Too many would get confusing, but if none of those people want to do it... *shrug* I'm not sure how much Kate really does the reports anymore. Haven't talked to her lately. I'm trying to keep them clear as often as I can be online for more than a few minutes (home early today since Teach had a conference he forgot about )

Let's just not turn this board into a censored one. That's one of the huge reasons I love the Sludge boards (well, other than the cool people who're there and fun topics). No matter what you way, it won't be deleted. People have the common sense to practice SELF moderation. If it's a stupid topic, ignore it. The only thing moderators do is move topics that are in the wrong place (as I've been doing). There have been some threads deleted for idiots hacking others and posting their personal info and stuff, but I highly doubt that would happen here (unless Pow invites more friends ) I guess because the users here are about 20+ years younger, it can't be [i]anything[/i] goes or else there'll be 10 topics of "OMG HI!!!!!! ^______^ LOL", but...
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[cstdenis]

That’s why its usually bad to make comments of that sort. You should proebly only do that for minor offences.

But I guess it won't matter as much once I give mods the ability to selectively remove images and have the submission approval system.

as for " no one here tells me what the hell is going on,.....". I replied to your email when i got it. For some other such things you've commented on, watch the forum more, most stuff that happens on the site gets mentioned in the forum somewhere. I dont talk to people on aim or irc much.
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[fallenangel]

Indeed, the "don't post reports on the forum" really should apply to comments as well. It's the same principle. If the person knows they've been caught, they may take it down before we can get to it. Now, if you got their email and waited until the report was looked at to send them a nasty email, that would be fine...

In fact, there were some rather...I'll say "rude"....responses sent to the Abuse Team dealing with reports that were sent before the site was down. The images had already been deleted and we end up with "Yeah, well I don't even go to this site anymore because it's always down and it's your fault for being so LATE." <_< The images are gone, so it's really no concern to me how they were removed, by admins or by the "artist". It's such a shame to see that kind of person leave...

Removing just one image will be greatly appreciated, especially for things that don't concern theft (ie photos, etc.).
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[layzcarter]

I would love to help! I currently am unemployed and will remain so for awhile My husband has a high paying job so I need not worry for the next couple of months. I have nothing but free time and I love this site I'd love to help with the approval panel, abuse team or category cleanup. Pity the unemployed girl... give her something to do Oh and of course i cause no harm! I love to help... and it would be nice to do something somewhat productive during my day. Yes... I'm 21 and have no life I admit it!

layzcarter@hotmail.com
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[Lasher]

*shrugs*

I admit i shouldn't have left a comment, and that was at fault by me. I don't think rather calmly on how to get a thief properly without running off before someone can catch them when i'm heated (bad week, very, very bad week) *coughs*

And i've never before posted information on a thief before, besides just mentioning today that something about one happened and i talked to kate about it (which i probably won't even do that again)


As for i don't get told anything around here. Well i basically don't. The only thing i really care about being informed on was anything to to with moderating the forums, since it seems i still have that one left still.

And yes, i do disagree that there wasn't a small announcement on the front page of the site saying (not only to ops and mods but everyone) that there would be soem time in which artwork could be uploaded to the site, more than five a day as previous said. Nothing extremely informative, just a little message. Although i'm not an op or anything anymore, people still like to come crying to me and asking me questions "Why am i banned, why is so and so allowed to upload so many pictures? can you please inform so and so that there is a five limit upload? So and so is being rude and won't leave me alone and is still posting rude comments on my drawing!" T_T It get's tiring to explain i can't really do a damn thing and to go bother someone else, whether it's Fallen ro Kate for abuse team stuff, Li or chris for chat, blah blah blah. and then just sit there and not even know myself why people were able to upload more than five pics in a day.

And are you two (fallen and denis) the only ones who know about the two new abuse team members? And is it some sort of big secret no one is to know until it is the last minute or what?

And i have a problem with those e-mail denis, in that you didn't say anything, as to how you planned on handling it, if you'd get back to me on it, you didn't express any interest in my side of the story or went to ask me what happened before the incident happened. No one, and i mean no one, got back to me on the matter, when i think, i had ever right to be, as it involved my freakin username, and i was pretty much safe to say, being held responsible for it all. And if i wasn't, no one said i wasn't, no one said much of anything thing.

Like i said, i'm not told a god damn thing, even when it involves me, that's where my problem is.

for one thing, if i intended to hack the chatroom, i wouldn't have been trying the week before to find a way to save the site and talking to you about some ideas. If i did that and then hacked the chat, i'd be one real dumbass wouldn't i? And i'm no genius or all and knowing person, but i'm not dumbass, and i don't like being left in the dark and not hearing a single word when i'm involved in some way with a situation, whether that be voluntary or not.


I think it's safe to say that is a reasonable argument.

[fallenangel]

Is it a secret? Not really. For all intensive purposes, it would have been a secret who was the abuse team now had our profiles not been listed before there even was one. Two things, though. A. just like chat ops, having ten people screaming "I WANNA BE ONE!!!" isn't fun. Not that abuse team is a glamorous job like the @, but... B. It's just kinda...that way. Choosing the first chat ops, Denis asked me who was better between two people (or both). Choosing the new ops, he asked us. That also, I think, is for two reasons. The people already doing the job have some idea of who may be able to do it well, and we don't want any (or much ) fighting between them. Like if Denis made Hax a chat op, you know there'd be problems. And the people who are around more (like I used to be *sigh*) get a better feel for people than he does (again, as of now).

Those are just my reasons for not saying on the forums. I'm sure he has his own. Among them is it's still a tentative list, we don't know who will accept, etc. etc. I don't know if Kate knows or has made her own suggestions. Probably.

[quote]I dont talk to people on aim or irc much. [/quote]

Anymore.

I'm staying out of the whole no one telling you anything issue.
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[Powtaz]

wait........so, im not gonna be a mod? awwwwwwww, oh well.
abuse team, sounds fun
take me to your leader.

[cstdenis]

[quote]And yes, i do disagree that there wasn't a small announcement on the front page of the site...[/quote]
I was mentioned in the thread on that subject. I didn't see much need to post it on the main site. I guess I should make more announcements. For the moment its basically like it was before the issues started -- requested, but not enforced. I hope to have various stuff up by this weekend. I stopped caring as much about the limitation because the new server has more resources. The limit will still get put in to control quality and get less stuff pushed off the page.

[quote]As for i don't get told anything around here. Well i basically don't. The only thing i really care about being informed on was anything to with moderating the forums, since it seems i still have that one left still. [/quote]
Everybody gets told the same stuff of whatever i say on the board (if they read it) unless they specifically ask. I'll start posting more announcements on stuff to keep everybody better informed, epically the ops.

[quote]And are you two (fallen and denis) the only ones who know about the two new abuse team members? And is it some sort of big secret no one is to know until it is the last minute or what?[/quote]
Fallen suggested some new people who would be good for that position. That’s all that is about. As for secret, I was keeping all of the abuse team members anonymous for their own protection, but they seem to not be keeping them selves anonymous. Either way doesn't matter to me, just thought it may mean less harassment for them this way, Its their choice. The new ones will likely stay anonymous (except to other abuse team) unless they want to be known.

[quote]And i have a problem with those e-mail denis, in that you didn't say anything...[/quote]
I was planning on dealing with it further next time I found you in IRC. I have not seen you since that time, and haven't noticed you on aim either (though I keep it minimized most of the time and don’t notice people much). Contact me sometime when you are online and I'll deal with the chat stuff regarding you.

[quote]Like i said, I’m not told a god damn thing, even when it involves me, that's where my problem is.[/quote]
Regarding op/mod related issues, you have access to the mod forum. Not much stuff there, but I will be using it more soon and giving all site helpers access to it.

[quote]for one thing, if i intended to hack the chatroom,[/quote]
I never really suspected you of being malicious, if i did; you would have lost the forum mod access too. I even said in the email "I have no real reason to think
that" in regards to you being malicious.

[quote]it would have been a secret who was the abuse team now had our profiles not been listed before there even was one[/quote]
Huh? I dont recall announcing who was in the team. It's not necessarily attached to chan or forum mod status.
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[iamem0tionless]

Sorry I haven't been able to help much lately. When I am online and signed onto AIM, I'm usually doing something for school, or not really on. I've been loaded with Algebra homework, it's going to kill me. I'll try to help out more when I can, as for now, I have to get started on my endless homework pile. Sorry again, Denis.

[layzcarter]

How do you accept certain people to help? What do you look for and on what basis would you reject someone?
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[Lasher]

*smiles and claps hands together in applaud* see that? *points to Denis's last post* I like that, why you might ask? well like i said, i don't like being in the dark, i like having things told to me, some i ask, some that should just be told to me without my having to ask.

^_^ That makes me very happy when questions are answered and people are told things. I don't expect deep dark secrets to be told, just simple stuff, and yes, i am happy now, no grumpy Lasher for now ^_^

That's all i ask for, is for information now and then on what's going on, what to expect, and to be informed on what to do about anything that has happened that might involve me.


And as for the IRC or Aim thing Denis, i haven't been on, because i was extremely pissed. And everytime i came into chat, it was when i got home from school, and of course none of the other ops are in there, including yourself, and like i said months ago when i complained about people being out of control in there, i don't like it, i'm a person who believe in some rules being enforced (no, nothing hardcore or going over board) just simple things like, no rpging in chat like crazy, and keep it down to a reasonable level, especially when others are trying to carry out a conversation, whether you agree with the conversation or not or whether it may interest you. And yeah, i know there are a lot of kids in there, so you'd have to kick almost the whole chat out, or even ban them for awhile if they started arguement over it, but only for a short while (a day or two, i hate banning people for long periods or perminatly, i think that should only be for extreme cases) and that may be the only way to get the rules across. As well as maybe posting them on the java chat link that is one the site, that way no one can argue against them (just an idea to help people keep from agruing on it and saying "no one told me!" *rolls eyes*

I think that's why a lot of people disliked me when i was Op, because i was around earlier i nthe day for an hour or so, and i would kick them if they didn't listen to my asking them, not to mention my warnings, which i had several of the other Ops say i was to nice with and they would later in the day, would end up kicking a person i was warning and getting it over with. lol. I remember one time, someone came in after i kicked them, and whinning about it and saying i was mean, and the next thing i know, they were kicked with a message similar to this "Don't argue with Lasher, or any of the ops for that fact!" *shrugs*




So, back on subject (sorry, i'm in a talkitive mood) i haven't been in Irc, or on Aim, because like i've mentioned before, people are always asking me for help, to do something, to tell kick someone when they are spamming or bitching them out, and i didn't feel like explaining i couldn't, or having to answer their "why's" all day. And i didn't feel like talking to anyone on the site right then as no one really came out and said that i didn't know anymore than they did when it happened, or that i was talking a few hours before it happened, quiet contently with everyone. They all just said "Aww, sorry to hear that." and that's all. The only person that seemed bothered by it as far as i could really tell was pow. And i did was tell him i got de oped in a text message one day, and he's the one that flipped out, lol. *chuckles* Pow, sorry, i still can't picture you "PISSED OFF!"



I'm quite testy about things like that. I don't take easily to not knowing things, especially in that situation. I explained to a few on FAC, that i use to belong to another site a few years back, when i left because of some problems with agruement going on between some Ops (i was one, and i wasn't about to deal with it) so i left and let them take care of it while i concnetrated on my school work. You know, AP, and Honors Physics, Chemistry and Biology isn't easy homework you know, not to mention the other stuff i had to do, while keeping some what of a social life and playing basketball for my high school T_T (quite tiring really to put it bluntly)


So now whenever i'm not informed of something, and things are left to be debated (like chat rules, and Ops rights to kick and ban given their reasons of course) as well as some other things, i can be a little uneasy about it. It reminds me a little to much of that site before it was placed together correctly and order ever to place over it. (i was saying to the others how nice their chat was, they didn't have any spamming due to enforced rpging, extreme caps, and spamming rules) lmao. LiYang was quite amazed i think when he visited the place with me along with Kate and Chris, of course they always came in when it was quiet in there (you guys are bad luck for chat in that place you know i blame you chris! lol)


If i'm never avaliable, the best and easiest thing to do is e-mail me saying you need to talk to me or discuss something with me, i have a constant update of e-mail through my server and site, and the application is always open and automatic. Not to mention if i know who you are, i tend to comply with the e-mail in replying to it or going into a messenger i have to take care of what's needed. I only really just came into chat the other night, and aim once in awhile (people are still bothering me with questions T_T)


So yeah, if your around, give me an e-mail and i'll show up, i might be in chat tonight and start coming in again, but i'm staying away if an Op is present because other it's maddening in there, people just act stupid when no ones around to take care of them and it doesn't exactly make my day looking at it T_T

[Akito]

I really want to be a OP in the chat, I'm like always there anyway, and I've been here longer than a lot of the current OP's, pweaz denis.

[cstdenis]

[quote]As well as maybe posting them on the java chat link that is one the site,....[/quote]

Come up with a specific enforcable set of rules and If they seem reasonable I'll post them on the chat page.

I tihnk the main problem with the chat really is some people love the RPing, and some hate it. I tihnk its time to bring back the seporate RP room.

[quote]You know, AP, and Honors Physics, Chemistry and Biology isn't easy homework you know[/quote]

If you are busy with school whatever fine. I know people have other stuff to do, I'm one of them. This problem of busy people is why I made this to find more people to help out.

[quote]are still bothering me with questions T_T[/quote]
that is the price of being an op/moderator/whatever. With great power comes great responsability ^_^. You get power and status, but bugged by newbies. Thats one of the reasons why I most stay outta the chat nowdays.
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