Crushes

Sirius · Very bored Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 189

[quote]I don't see how gay or lesbians go could with out the pussy (for the gay men) or the dick (for the lesbians out there) That's why i go Bi. That way, all my options are open for review and open interest[/quote]

Kind of a personal question.
But have you really experimented with this or like most of the girls here just want to experiment with it.
And seriously before you see me kissing a guy.
Err well it'll happen when hell freezes over.

Lasher · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:22 pm Post subject:

Well lets look over the facts we all know why don't we Sirius? Hmm?

I'm 18
I'm open ot new things
I don't freak if a girl touches me.
And i think i've said before, many of times in other thread,s that yes, i have done some minor stuff with other girls, just nothing to hot and heavy. Just never got that far before something else started around us.

Have i had full on sex with another girl? No. Have i kissed another girl and had a full on petting session and well into the whole make out, sure.

Answer your question? And Sirius, i don't care if it's personally. That's nothing really in my opinion there. But thanks for caring, i think...

Sirius · Very bored Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 189

I heard that mosts americans are really sensitive about these kinds of issues.
So that's why I included that statement.
And I can believe that you're open.
But i just don't see the whole 13 year old girl thing.
Knowing you're a lesbian when you're 13 years old.
I'm just not buying that sorry.

nekojess · Very bored Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 143

Well, who cares if you don't buy it? It may be true, it may not be. All in the end,
DOES IT MATTER?
No. People made their own decisions in their lives, and they aren't for you to judge.
I say, if people wanna be gay, let them be gay.
. . . .

Sirius · Very bored Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 189

[quote]Well, who cares if you don't buy it? It may be true, it may not be. All in the end,
DOES IT MATTER?
No. People made their own decisions in their lives, and they aren't for you to judge.
I say, if people wanna be gay, let them be gay.[/quote]

Err there is a reason why you're only allowed to vote when you're 18 yes.

Remko · Very bored Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 142

[quote="Sirius (The werewolf king)"] [quote]Well, who cares if you don't buy it? It may be true, it may not be. All in the end,
DOES IT MATTER?
No. People made their own decisions in their lives, and they aren't for you to judge.
I say, if people wanna be gay, let them be gay.[/quote]

Err there is a reason why you're only allowed to vote when you're 18 yes. [/quote]
Stop being stupid. You don't have to vote to make your own decicions. Voting is making up AMERICA'S decicions, not yours. Think about it. People are sometimes born with homosexual/bisexualality. Just because someone realizes early on, "Oh, I think I like girls the same way I like boys" isn't really different from "Oooh...he's cute." I mean, you realized early on that you were strait, didn't you?

Jesus, it's not that hard to figure out. My friend's sister was twelve years old when she came up to my friend and me and said, "I don't like boys. I like girls." Sure, it came as a bit of a shock, but we believed her. Why would someone that young even make up something like that?

Sirius · Very bored Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 189

[quote]Jesus, it's not that hard to figure out. My friend's sister was twelve years old when she came up to my friend and me and said, "I don't like boys. I like girls." Sure, it came as a bit of a shock, but we believed her. Why would someone that young even make up something like that? [/quote]

A better question is how could anyone that young come to that conlusion.
I mean c'mon most twelve year olds i know aren't even thinking about that stuff yet.Or at least not enough to form an opinion.
You know what most gay people have to go through usually it's not something you wake up to and say ok i'm gay.In almost all cases it takes a long while before they're certain.

nekojess · Very bored Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 143

[quote="Sirius (The werewolf king)"] In almost all cases it takes a long while before they're certain. [/quote]
Exactly. Twelve years is long enough.

Remko · Very bored Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 142

[quote="Sirius (The werewolf king)"] [quote]Jesus, it's not that hard to figure out. My friend's sister was twelve years old when she came up to my friend and me and said, "I don't like boys. I like girls." Sure, it came as a bit of a shock, but we believed her. Why would someone that young even make up something like that? [/quote]

A better question is how could anyone that young come to that conlusion.
I mean c'mon most twelve year olds i know aren't even thinking about that stuff yet.Or at least not enough to form an opinion.
You know what most gay people have to go through usually it's not something you wake up to and say ok i'm gay.In almost all cases it takes a long while before they're certain. [/quote]
Yes, they are. Twelve is when you REALLY start thinking about it. I mean, I remember when I was five and following boys around that I thought were 'cute'. Maybe it took YOU more than twelve years to start looking at people that way, but usually, it doesn't take too long.

Oh, and thank you, Nekojess, I quite agree.

Lexar · Forum Stalker Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 1129

What a sick world if 5 year olds are thinking about sexual attraction. Or 12 year olds for that matter.

fallenangel · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject:

At twelve years old, no one is certain. They may think they know, and they very well might, but people so young have no idea what they truly want or will want ten years down the road. Hell, anyone younger than 19 (and older really) is still figuring it out. If you ask a 16-year-old what kind of partner they want, I guarantee you it'll be different than if you ask them when they're 26. Younger kids don't have enough experience to even understand relationships, let alone their sexuality.

They probably have the idea they may be gay, but they aren't certain until years down the road when they've given it time for thought and experience. Kids think they know, but they don't. You ask most people who are in their twenties if they still have the same ideas about relationships as they did when they were 12, they'll say no way. At 12 kids still have that idealistic "Prince charming is gonna sweep me off my feet" views. Perhaps not as cutesy, but just as romanticized. Ask someone who's 28, they want a guy with a job and limited prison record. Rolling eyes

If someone thinks they're gay at 12, that's great they're so comfortable with it, but there's no way they [i]know[/i].
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ThePuppetMaster · Very bored Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 196

Yes that may be so, but not ALL younger kids are thinking about Prince Charming blah blah blah. With every generation Sexual Activness is happening to younger age groups of kids. I know some of my friends who have already had sex and they're my age or younger. What you all thought about when you were twelve or thirteen is alot different then what the kids of today are thinking about. Sex is on T.V. and in popular "RAP" songs, Hell it's everywhere. Younger and younger kids are learning and wondering about it. I'll bet you in ten years 11 or 10 year olds will be having sex. Hell, one of my best friends who is 16 had oral sex with a 12 year old girl when he was eight! (I know she was a slut) Ughhh I just hope anyone understands the point I'm trying to get across. I woulden't suggest sexual activness that young but people will do it anyways.

fallenangel · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject:

Sexuality has very little to do with sex. Just because they know what sex is doesn't mean they have the emotional and pshycological maturity to understand it. Yes, they do it younger n' younger these days, but that doesn't mean they know a damn thing about their sexuality. Whether or not you do it has nothing to do with "knowing" if you're straight/gay/bi/whatever. If someone thinks they are at a young age, great, they can ponder the idea and let it sink in for years. One day they may realize it was just a phase, or maybe they really are. But at 12 no one knows anything about it.

What I meant by the "prince charming" comment was that 12 year olds have very romanticized views of relationships. When they look for a "date", they don't consider if he has a job, a car, a place to live, is divorced, etc. They're just concerned with the idealized "I like you" aspect. And that's fine, they're young. But that's what I'm saying. They're young and have zero experience in the matter.

Thus they don't "know" anything.
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Raymei · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject:

just skimmed through T.T but my 2 cents is:
at 12 years old, you shouldn't be deciding whether your gay or straight.

i'm not saying everyone is straight until they decide their gay or whatever, I'm saying that you shouldn't put that sort of pressure on yourself just yet.

I honestly, after a lot of thinking and observing, don't think people should start dating until they're 16.

too many 14 year olds (and YOUNGER) getting into sex.
They're easily manipulated at that age (just starting to go through hormones and such) and end up messed up a lot of the time.

I'm almost 19, so don't think I'm some old biddy trying to lecture people.
I just think it's the smart and mature thing to wait before you start putting yourself in potentially dangerous situations (and with the pressures, date rapes, STDs, etc and stuff, yea..it IS dangerous)

Raymei · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject:

[quote="ThePuppetMaster (John)"] I'll bet you in ten years 11 or 10 year olds will be having sex. Hell, one of my best friends who is 16 had oral sex with a 12 year old girl when he was eight! (I know she was a slut) Ughhh I just hope anyone understands the point I'm trying to get across. I woulden't suggest sexual activness that young but people will do it anyways. [/quote]
try now...

T.T I volunteer at the middle schools and elementry schools every so often..

The youngest reported kids having sex was about 5 years ago.
6 and 8.

Young kids have been having sex for a long time now....and let's just say it wasn't the best thing for them *youngest mother in world history: 5 years old.....*

I think it's because kids just choose not to listen these days. They think they're invinsible, and that's their knot in the noose.
I'm tired of talking to brick walls.....

Raymei · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject:

[quote="Remko (Kat)"] Jesus, it's not that hard to figure out. My friend's sister was twelve years old when she came up to my friend and me and said, "I don't like boys. I like girls." Sure, it came as a bit of a shock, but we believed her. [b][u]Why would someone that young even make up something like that?[/b][/u] [/quote]
(last post for tonigh, I swear T.T god I'm tired)

Why?
Why would a 13 year old girl break into my house at 1 AM and tell us that her dad is beating her? when...we later found out that her dad's been out of town for a week?

Why would an 11 year old girl tell us that her dad is sexually molesting her, then say no, then say yes, then bring a knife to school, say it was all a lie, say she was so ashamed of herself for lying, and then, try to stab another student?

Why would a 16 year old girl carve "help" into her leg and then wear KAHKIs on a COLD day with her leg stretched out for her friends to see?

the list goes on and on and on and on and on.....
Because, girls want attention. Kids want attention, but girls seem to play a bit more of a desperate game.
Especially during puberty etc. They've got a lot of things going through their head and through their bodies and they let it out in weird ways like that.

Going around telling people you're gay randomly like that is trying to get attention. Especially at that age.
I'm not saying she's not gay, she very well might be. But I don't think you should say you're gay OR straight that young (like I said earlier)

fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:37 am Post subject:

Just have to point out, kids having sex at 13, 14, 15 is not a new thing. It's just much more public. It certainly depends on the group of people, and I'll admit the people I associate with are not the most conservative of types, but a lot of them will admit to losing their virginity between 13 and 17. And that's 15-30 years ago. Yeah, the revealing clothing and "dating" and crap is new, but I think it just draws more attention to a lot of what was already going on. Not saying it's a good thing, and there are probably more and younger kids getting into such things these days... but it's not like every 15-year-old was the picture of innocent 15 years ago, either. Or maybe my friends were just dirty whores. Ya never know. Razz

They all turned out fine, though, so I wouldn't worry about the future of today's youth much in that respect.

I don't see the point in dating before 16, anyway. You can't even drive, dude. "Hey, wanna go get some pizza? My mom'll drop us off!" Sexy, man, I love your mom's mini van. But if they didn't "date", there'd be far less entertainment for me. All that drama is fabulous to watch while enjoying a nice sammich and Pepsi. Girls running in dressed like J-ho, smeared goth makeup, screaming at the little Britney wanna-be... "OMG I totally saw you talking to Jason! You slut! You know I'm going out with him, so back off!" Good times, good times... Relationships that last an average of two weeks, most of which is spent telling other people how you're "going out" when you actually never went anywhere. Excellent.

In the meantime, those of us with a realistic view of the high school "dating game", will continue to hang with cool dudes and have fun without ruining a friendship every two weeks due to a failed "relationship". Sucks for the rest of ya. Cool

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ThePuppetMaster · Very bored Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 196

Whoopsies! Maybe I should have read all of this instead of skimming through,I didn't even notice any of the gay or straight stuff. I thought everyone was talking about young kids having sex,so nevermind my post.

fallenangel · Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:

It sorta was in the beginning. Something about a 12-year-old wanting a boyfriend. Which is silly. Have a friend who is a boy. No need for a "boyfriend" at 12.

Then someone brought in the gay thing, I didn't go back to look who. Too lazy.
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ThePuppetMaster · Very bored Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 196

I think it was Serius....but yeah