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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Mosque built near World trade Center, wrong or right? Reply with quote

Again, watching the news. So I searched up an article to share with you guys,
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38538068/ns/us_news-life/



Im not against the muslim religion and everyone has a right to express there religion. However I think its just not the right thing to do right now. Building a mosque in front of the world trade center to me, just seems like their sending out the wrong message.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's two Manhattan blocks away from the ground zero. No one who actually lives in Manhattan raises this issue. It's really freaking far.

Telling them to not build a mosque in that place is like telling people not to build a church in Waco because of the Christian fanatics incident there in 1996.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they should wait a while, at least.

They can build it, but its still morally wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Gerardthedevil"]I think they should wait a while, at least.

They can build it, but its still morally wrong.[/quote]

They waited 10 years. That's a while.

And personally, I don't think it's morally wrong to build a place of peaceful worship.

Then again lol rednecks
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, first of all, it's not a mosque. It's an Islamic center. It has restaurants, a gym, and other facilities aside from the prayer center. Calling that building a mosque is like calling the YMCA a church.

Second, our constitution guarantees freedom of religion. There is no legal way to stop it from happening. It's not the business of the government or anyone else to tell people where they're allowed to worship.

Third, [i]not[/i] building it is exactly what the people who did 9/11 want. They want to make us afraid of them. They want to make us hate them and hate Muslims in order to justify their holy war. What we [i]should[/i] do is let the center be built, to show that sane parts of the United States are not anti-Islam.

Fourth, most of the people freaking about the center don't even live in New York City. Those people need to shut up. Ground Zero isn't a spiritual holy land where you're not allowed to wear shorts or take pictures with the flash on. It's a construction zone in the middle of a busy city that [i]moved on[/i]. You should move on, too.

Fifth, the people who lost some one in the attacks need to shut up about how much emotional pain the center will bring them. I don't mean to make light of their loss, but just because something horrible happened to you, doesn't give you the excuse to be a bigoted, racist embarrassment for the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah just let em build the place. But you know someone somewhere is going to rant. You know it and I know it and we're just going to roll our eyes at their sob stories.

Besides I agree, nothing offensive about it, not like they are going to build a porno shop or movie theatre next to a children's daycare center or anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But why build it there of all places. Yeah they can go right ahead and build it, nothings legally wrong. But its just not the right thing to do at the moment. Yes people need to move on and stop greiving but its just something I would say as "janky"

To the ones who are against the muslim religion, they're wrong too. They shouldn't hate muslims for 9-11. My father is muslim, I share his faith. I just don't think building in there is the right thing to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Gerardthedevil"]But why build it there of all places. Yeah they can go right ahead and build it, nothings legally wrong. But its just not the right thing to do at the moment. Yes people need to move on and stop greiving but its just something I would say as "janky"

To the ones who are against the muslim religion, they're wrong too. They shouldn't hate muslims for 9-11. My father is muslim, I share his faith. I just don't think building in there is the right thing to do.[/quote]

Why is it not the right thing to do? The Muslim faith did not desire the destruction of those building or the death of those people, it was a small group of extremists. To let them build it would be to generalize that group as all muslims, which is exactly what leads to shit like that happening in the first place.

What it comes down to, is that it's no different for them to construct that than it is for them to start making a YMCA near my fucking house.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="CiaphasCain"][quote="Gerardthedevil"]But why build it there of all places. Yeah they can go right ahead and build it, nothings legally wrong. But its just not the right thing to do at the moment. Yes people need to move on and stop greiving but its just something I would say as "janky"

To the ones who are against the muslim religion, they're wrong too. They shouldn't hate muslims for 9-11. My father is muslim, I share his faith. I just don't think building in there is the right thing to do.[/quote]

Why is it not the right thing to do? The Muslim faith did not desire the destruction of those building or the death of those people, it was a small group of extremists. To let them build it would be to generalize that group as all muslims, which is exactly what leads to @^*% like that happening in the first place.

What it comes down to, is that it's no different for them to construct that than it is for them to start making a YMCA near my $&#* house.[/quote]

Ah I see your point.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]Ah just let em build the place. But you know someone somewhere is going to rant. You know it and I know it and we're just going to roll our eyes at their sob stories.

Besides I agree, nothing offensive about it, not like they are going to build a porno shop or movie theatre next to a children's daycare center or anything.[/quote]
I think I read in the New York Times last week that there are numerous strip clubs and porn shops closer to Ground Zero than the Islamic center.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah irony you weird mistress. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="London"][quote="SweetxinsanityxSarah"]Ah just let em build the place. But you know someone somewhere is going to rant. You know it and I know it and we're just going to roll our eyes at their sob stories.

Besides I agree, nothing offensive about it, not like they are going to build a porno shop or movie theatre next to a children's daycare center or anything.[/quote]
I think I read in the New York Times last week that there are numerous strip clubs and porn shops closer to Ground Zero than the Islamic center.[/quote]

At school, I live next to a bar, a church, and a sex shop.

It's weird.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm...

ah I see.
Americans drill in your head that its not ok to have a mosque but its ok to express sexuality around a place like that.
Wow Im easily convinced by my parents sometimes...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so lets branch off the kkk to build a nazi museum near the popular jewish containment camps. you know b/c its historically relevant as that is. how do you think the jews would feel about that?

as for the building. go ahead and do it but that is a stupid thing to do financially. there is going to be people who will tear that place apart. as you said there ARE rednecks in ths country who are as radical as the radical muslims.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's completely inaccurate. You don't seem to understand that the muslim centre they are building are as far from doctrine and organization to Al Qaeda as the KKK and Anglican church. What they are asking for is build an Anglican church near a former concentration camp sites. TV-educated Americans are quick to make such tenuous connection between a study centre and a terrorist organization when the rest of the world would think twice.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, you mentioned Hitler, and invoked Godwin's law, your argument is automatically invalid.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Gerardthedevil"]hmmm...

ah I see.
Americans drill in your head that its not ok to have a mosque but its ok to express sexuality around a place like that.
Wow Im easily convinced by my parents sometimes...[/quote]

It's ok to express sexuality anywhere.

Especially in a changing room at Burlington Coat Factory with someone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no just b/c i mentioned hitler doesn't mean i'm invalid.

i know mosques aren't breeding grounds for terrorists. there like shirley felps ropper, that crazy bizatch from the christian side. saying every muslim is a terrorist is like saying every christian is a kkk member. i'd of prefered if they keep there distance atleast. a new york block really isn't all that far away as well.

its a respect thing. its like two siblings the evil one burns your house down and the good one buys the house next to you afterwards. You know the good one isn't going to do anything to you. but the evil one could come over at anytime to stir up some shit again.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nothing wrong with building that. It's just a religious temple. It's people like you that make seem like there is something wrong with it. It's been a LONG time since 9/11 get over it already. stfu stop hating.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I wonder what MedalMask's opinion on the subject is?
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