Photoshop

Rindi_chan · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:

Er, well, I can't speak for any version besides PS 7.0, but there's a palette dialog box. You can pick colors, paint them in the box, mix 'em together however you want... Just like mixing real paint. Then you can use the eyedropper to select the colors that you want and work from there. I think there's even an option to get PS to pick a whole bunch of sample colors from the lot so you can work straight from those.

Gosh, I haven't used that thing in ages. In fact, I'm now more than halfway convinced that this is actually a feature in Painter, and not Photoshop at all, as it sounds far too artsy for PS. *will look it up*

EDIT: Okay, it [i]is[/i] a Corel Painter option. I'm so stupid. =_=;

fallenangel · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a painter tool. 99.99% (if not all) of photoshop's features are designed exclusively for photos. All the brushes and layers just happen to be useful for art too, but they're nowhere near as art-focused as some of the others.

But there is no one "best" program 'cause it all depends on what you wanna do. Linda Bergkvist does amazing photorealism with Photoshop, other people do great work that mimics real media in Painter.

Burn/Dodge can be used decently, when done in small amounts. But all in all, it's a poor substitute for picking your own colors and painting with them. It only reinforces the notion that everything should be shaded with a darker version of the color instead of light source color and compliments for shadows. The same way the smudge tool is horribly abused, but that's another matter entirely.
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SilentSoul92 · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject:

Oh boy, at least a quarter of the conversation so far made no sense to me until I read it 10 times over. I don't use any type of program (i/e photoshop, painter, etc) so I'm pretty much in the dark. Well from what I gather photoshop elements seems to be well for beginners. I think I'll either get Photoshop Element, or Photoshop CS.

Brianhjh · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:

Photoshop CS costs 500 dollars...

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PhunkYMunkY · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:55 am Post subject:

Depends how much of a ..discount you can manage to get Wink

fallenangel · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:24 am Post subject:

Tsk tsk, Gray, that's borderline against the pirating rules...

EDIT: and rather defeats the gift idea anyway
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SilentSoul92 · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:

Yeah Gray, I'll pass this time. Hm,. well, how much is Photoshop Element, or Photoshop 7.0? Anyone know?

Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

After a bit of looking around on Adobe's website, I've found that Photoshop Element is about $150 USD. CS2 is $600 USD, and I don't think the site mentions the older versions at all. Neutral

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Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:07 am Post subject:

actually, since the photoshop element is a mainstream program... I've seen it marked as low as 100 USD (with 50$ rebate) in Staples, and other places.
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Fayore · Moderator Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195

Well, rebate. Razz

That's a store thing. I was on Adobe's site, silly.

D: I don't get to go to Staples very often. Like never. o_o; So I don't know much about commercial prices. >3<
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Brianhjh · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:

With the money that can be spent on Photoshop CS (600USD) and its constant upgrades... <_<

I could have bought enough gouache paints, brushes, and paper to last me a lifetime...
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SilentSoul92 · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:53 am Post subject:

Yeah, we'll in that case, I guess I'll just get Elements.

eidan_eishou · Very bored Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 120

You know, I really don't mind which Rita, but after reading this, I think Elements is a good choice. I've never used Photoshop before, so it would probably be best to start off easy.

Lizkay · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:

If you want CS or CS2 you will run cheaper if you buy the 7.00 Edition and the Updgrade of it to CS or you buy the CS one and the upgrade to CS2, I spared 70-100$ dollars that way, but generally I would first check the PC you want to use or buy it for... CS2 only runs on very good and high-end PCs, I have one which approx. 4GHz I have PS 6.00, 7.01, CS and CS2 on it and the 7.01 Version runs the best, CS2 is great yes, but not if you want to paint with it on a 1 GHz PC.. you will draw a line and you have to way 3 minutes until you see on the screen what you made.. so very important! Check if the PC will work it out right at first! I first think PS 7 and both CS versions are the best choice.. but still... I prefer the 7. version. Painter is fine too, but if you work with a lot layers you better take Photoshop because it has a better layer system, and if you know how, you can make exactly the same results with photoshop you could make with painter.. (I have Painter IX.. not sure what's the newest version there).. but well just my 2 cents.. Wink

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SilentSoul92 · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:

Let's see, well I'm not sure what kind of computer Arlia has, but I guess I'll just buy her Elements, and if she wasnts, she can upgarde it to Photoshop.

SilentSoul92 · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:07 am Post subject:

Never mind. I'm gonna get her CS. I found a great deal. It's usually 400-600 dollars, but I got it for $98.56.

Shinigami-no-Kaze · Still very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 370

Carefuly with that--it might not be the full program. I've had that happen to me before. >_<

SilentSoul92 · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:

Oh...well that sucks. There's a no return policy too. Hm, maybe I should just stick to buying Elements.

Shinigami-no-Kaze · Still very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 370

Elements has the bare bones. If you don't want to do anything fantastically mind-blowing, just simple drawings, that would be your program. You can, however, get Photoshop 6.0 and 7.0 at reduced prices these days. I know people who in 5.0 can do everything that someone can do in CS.

Brianhjh · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject:

well, the only thing elements lack are the pretty filters (the newbie killer). you can color CG's just fine. Smile

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