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cstdenis Evil Overlord

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 6490 Location: In the tubes.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: |
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"And the category selection box has needed work for some time, something will be done to fix it."
There is a solution in the works -- designed by Strata. It'll be released when I have time to finish it.
I agree that categories for elemental types of dragons aren't really needed, but does it being there really hurt?
Misc probebly does have more in it than it should, but the origional master category wasn't really any better.
I'm open to serious specific suggestions on category reorginization. (and if somebody did suggest something specific, it must have been in one of the long posts I didn't read) _________________ You will obey or molten silver will be poured into your ears. |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 13721 Location: Moo
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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DragonicFlames had one suggestion about the Dragons category (or was it me who suggested it...), I'll take care of it when I have the time.
And when you think about it, having specific subsections for certain types of dragon art isn't really all that different from the character-specific subsections in the fanart categories....
[b]QUOTE[/b] (cstdenis) | but the origional master category wasn't really any better.[/quote]
True, people were submitting fanart to it, which does not meet our definition of "Original", and thus didn't belong into the category. And from time to time, it still happens even today, too. :(
Over time, all of the other subcategories under 'Original' had gradually been moved into Miscellaneous for better categorization (e.g. "Banners" and "oekaki", which are subsets of digital art and are now sorted as such). 'Characters' ended up being the sole lonely subcategory left under the heading, and that became part of the reason for the merge. What's the point of having an master-level category if you're not supposed to submit drawings directly under it, and there's only [i]one[/i] subsection inside it to submit to?
[b]That[/b] is an "extra click". _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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Fayore Moderator

Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 6195
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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[quote]Sorry, not going to happen; fallen explained why over on FAC -- basically, "FANART Central" and when someone is looking for fanart, they aren't going to care much about what medium it was done in, they're going to be looking for that specific series.
However, we may be implementing a media-based category system as a supplement, so that pictures may be browsed either by media, or by subject/theme (as is currently).
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Actually, that wasn't what I meant. I meant change the categorizing to the same system as dA's. It starts out with broad categories, and eventually narrows it down. For FAC, in example, we could start out by having a list of major genres, then from there, the alphabet or something, then the next page after that would be a list of anime/shows/movies/whatever, then after that, the really specific stuff like characters. :X Something like that. _________________ [url=http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=15636][img]http://vdexproject.net/p/15636/trainer.png[/img]
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SilentSoul92 Elder In Training

Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 3100 Location: Lala land *hums*
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, I might be able to do something like that with javascript. If anyone wants thinks it's a good idea. |
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DragonicFlames Very Oldbie

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 2562 Location: Hiding behind a tombstone
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Stratadrake (Strata)"] [b]QUOTE[/b] (DragonicFlames) | AS per the whole "Oh well the european.. dragon and the eastern..." WTF, hold the phone while I list these....
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Now would you like me to continue on my rant or would you like more examples?[/quote]
I could show [b]you[/b] examples ... some of which I already did. ;)
Like I already said, some of the subcats have larger distinctions than others. Though, you are right that a general "dragons by elements" category would make some sense ... we already have character-group type categories in other areas, like Sailor Moon's "Sailor Scouts" and "Enemies" subcats, Beyblade's "Team Bladebreakers" section, and so on. [/quote]
Good, it's not like we need a billion subcats when one will be fine. And it helps to lessen the list of items. IF you want I could go over a few (not a ton, cause I have exams and crap this week) but a few and tell you what probably needs to go. xD (Hope that's not sounding out like I'm sooo damn important that YOU need me to do that. Just trying to state i'll help if you want)
[quote]Okay, and why not call me obsessed with Pokmon while you're at it? [/quote]
Don't worry, I won't. : D But After all there is what like.. 300 something other characters of pokemon. That's bad. I stopped liking pokemon after 151. ; ( Sad but true. _________________ [img]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Dragonicflamesfac/DFsig2.jpg[/img]
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Brianhjh

Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 8014 Location: Queen's University
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Unlike the DA though, which goes Media > Medium > What is is, we should cater the 14-years old fangirls and somehow go Broad anime/show genre > specific anime/show.
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LexLuthorsVictimNJustAFriend Has No Life

Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 509
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, am I the only one here who likes the change? Do you know how many time I have skipped over the OC section and went right into the Misc. section? I hated the OC section, I'm glad it is in the Misc. section, it is way easier to find. And I for one feel that the people who keep bitching about there OC's not being important enough to keep the two categories seperate, are just being egotistical. You guys aren't all high and mighty! Get over yourselves, everyone else has to deal with the same thing. |
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Stratadrake Elder Than Dirt

Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 13721 Location: Moo
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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[b]QUOTE[/b] (DragonicFlames) | there is what like.. 300 something other characters of pokemon. That's bad. I stopped liking pokemon after 151. ; ( Sad but true.[/quote]
I stopped liking it after 250... but not completely. (And at least in pokmon's case, those who draw pokmon fanart already know what type of pokmon it is and thus which subcategory to place it under... provided they actually find the pokdex category in the first place, rather than me having to point it out to them )
[b]QUOTE[/b] (Fayore) | Actually, that wasn't what I meant. I meant change the categorizing to the same system as dA's. It starts out with broad categories, and eventually narrows it down. For FAC, in example, we could start out by having a list of major genres, then from there, the alphabet or something, then the next page after that would be a list of anime/shows/movies/whatever, then after that, the really specific stuff like characters. :X Something like that.[/quote]
dA's sense of "broad categories" are, like brianhjh said, medium-specific categories, which on average go two layers deep. And only when you go past that layer do you actually encounter any subject-based categories, which never get any more specific than "People", "Anthro", "Fanart", and so on.
Consistent, yes, but absolutely worthless if you're looking for a specific kind of [i]subject matter[/i].
BTW, I tried doing genre-specific categories with the Games master category just to reduce the size of the category sidebar. Unfortunately, it won't work until we can also create category pointers/aliases.
Other examples of genre type categories which :
- Cartoons > Disney Cartoons
- Comics > Marvel Comics
- Comics > DC Comics
- Movies > Disney Movies
[b]QUOTE[/b] (cstdenis) | [quote]And the category selection box has needed work for some time, something will be done to fix it.[/quote]
There is a solution in the works -- designed by Strata. It'll be released when I have time to finish it.[/quote]
In a nutshell, it's like a miniature version of the category sidebar listing we already have. It takes a few extra clicks to navigate, but at the same time you don't get inundated by 2,000+ categories all in one big mass. _________________ Strata here: [url=http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/242293]Nanowrimo[/url] - [url=www.fanart-central.net/user-Stratadrake.php]FAC[/url] - [url=http://stratadrake.deviantart.com]dA[/url] - [url=www.furaffinity.net/user/Stratadrake/]FA[/url]
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