the martial arts interest!!!

anti_sk8r · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject:

[quote]yeah, im trying to find some ninja training place somewhere. do they actually exist?[/quote]
Believe it or not, yes. Its headed by an organization called Bujinkan. They teach you various skills (mostly Taijutsu). Pretty neat, huh? Here's the website: http://www.bujinkan.org/main/page1.asp
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ZeroHourLP · Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: -172359

[quote="anti_sk8r"][quote]Boxing is really effective, though it is limited. But really, boxing is straight forward and practical. A person with a few months in boxing would probably beat some of the people here who have a couple years in Taikwondo or whatever.[/quote]
*Professional Boxer runs at Tae Kwon Do Expert*
*Tae Kwon Do Expert kicks him in crotch*
*Professional Boxer dies of severe damage to prostate glands*[/quote]Note I wasn't talking about experts. 2 years in a martial arts doesn't make someone an expert. Yeah, an expert in Taekwondo can most likely deliver effective kicks, even in a real street fight, but take into account an expert in any other martial art can probably kick that Taekwondo expert's ass.

Taekwondo is impractical. All those showy kicks need some distance to connect effectively, and generally in sparring that distance is given to further practice. In a real situation you get rushed down and pounded.

Edit: Boxing > Taekwondo.

anti_sk8r · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:36 am Post subject:

[quote="ZeroHourLP"][quote="anti_sk8r"][quote]Boxing is really effective, though it is limited. But really, boxing is straight forward and practical. A person with a few months in boxing would probably beat some of the people here who have a couple years in Taikwondo or whatever.[/quote]
*Professional Boxer runs at Tae Kwon Do Expert*
*Tae Kwon Do Expert kicks him in crotch*
*Professional Boxer dies of severe damage to prostate glands*[/quote]Note I wasn't talking about experts. 2 years in a martial arts doesn't make someone an expert. Yeah, an expert in Taekwondo can most likely deliver effective kicks, even in a real street fight, but take into account an expert in any other martial art can probably kick that Taekwondo expert's ass.

Taekwondo is impractical. All those showy kicks need some distance to connect effectively, and generally in sparring that distance is given to further practice. In a real situation you get rushed down and pounded.

Edit: Boxing > Taekwondo.[/quote]
Note I was joking. I could care less whether or not a boxer could beat the shit out of a Tae Kwon Do expert or anyone. Rolling Eyes

Edit: Don't take things so seriously.
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SilverKitsune · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

no ones taking anything seriously, just stating. You don't take it cereally.

My friend who is a boxer faught this kid who was a black belt in taekwando/karate. My boxing friend won. It was an interesting fight to watch.
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gamefox120 · Very bored Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 233

Anti sk8ter boy
you seem to have done your home work but I don't just hit randomly...
I have to look for a break in the opponets gaurd
I am definetly no stranger to fencing
I spar with one sometimes (hes a 9 year study).

Battou · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject:

[quote="anti_sk8r"][quote]actually a thrust is a seldom used in Japanese swordmanship, the sword in and of itself is spefically desined for a slashing movement[/quote]
Wrong. You are talking about the art of Kenjutsu where it is common to use a traditional Katana. I was speaking of Kendo which is the practice of Japanese fencing. The principles of the Katana are applied but kendoka rarely actually use them. Rather, practitioners of Kendo use Shinai which is made of bamboo. And a common move among kendoka is the thrust-into-throat (tsuki).[/quote]

Ok, given the little bit of research I had done I assumed that Kendo was more traditional than it is. Regardless of that, your reasearch is still incomplete, thrusts are (or atleast supposed to be) highly restricted and only to the throat. I could be wrong but that is the impression I got when I looked at it when I was getting started.
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ZeroHourLP · Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: -172359

You're a noob at THE WARRIOR PATH you have chosen.

Thrusts are only restricted in certain competitions. Why would an effective move like that not be used in real life? I guess your QUEST FOR REVENGE (which made you PICK UP TEH SWROD) isn't important enough to break sparring/competition rules.

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Battou · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:02 am Post subject:

[quote="ZeroHourLP"]You're a noob at THE WARRIOR PATH you have chosen.

Thrusts are only restricted in certain competitions. Why would an effective move like that not be used in real life? I guess your QUEST FOR REVENGE (which made you PICK UP TEH SWROD) isn't important enough to break sparring/competition rules.

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I hate you so much, Battou. Just f**king say it. Tell me what your family, friends, popular people at school, or whoever did to make you such a posturing douchebag on the Internet. You and Gamerfox are certain it's a good reason. Say it.[/quote]

You don't seem to get it, I don't give a rats ass what you think of me.

To answer your first question. Why teach a technique that is restricted to higher level students to novices, Yes it is an effective move and can easily be utilized in actual combat. If done incorrectly it can do serious damage to the target hence the restriction, It's a liability to the Dojo and thus not tought to novices. There is prolly more to it than that but not being a kendo student I don't have a clue as to the particulars.
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ZeroHourLP · Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: -172359

My first question didn't specify anything about a restricted environment. My fault, you're maybe 11 or 12 years old, so I understand. What I meant was in a real fight. I should've specified. I guess as I was typing I didn't think much of it since the sentences before and after focused on thrusts being banned from competition and practice, which you mostly repeated back to me.

But whatever, man. Who cares. Tell me what happened to you that made you order a rattling, $30 katana from amazon.com.

SilverKitsune · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject:

Yeah, really. :/
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Brianhjh · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject:

I did Tae Kwon Do for 2 years, living in Korea, it's the most mainstream and the most accesible. If I pick up any martial art in the future, it'd be definately Krav Maga. The most practical one than anything else said here.
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anti_sk8r · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:

Krav Maga. Isn't that sorta like a "break the wrist. walk away." kinda thing?

Not really that practical if you take into consideration the fact that it's not a sport and it's not a competition kind of thing, Which are usually the only reasons why people take martial arts these days. Also not so effective as a hobby because you can't really have a "sparring partner", perse.

But it is [i]highly[/i] practical in real life situations. Someone attacks you, all you have to do is stop them and than neutralize them. However, easier said than done.
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Brianhjh · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject:

no, Krav Maga is the official combat technique of the IDF, Israeli Defense Force.

Being around 200 million angry Muslims who wants to put them in the ovens tend to be a good reason for developing the most effecient hand-to-hand combat technique.

Edit: Look it up, wikiwhore.
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anti_sk8r · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject:

[quote]Edit: Look it up, wikiwhore.[/quote]
Right away, commander.

Edit: I was right in some ways.
[i]In Krav Maga, there are no hard-and-fast rules. It is not a sport, and there are no competitions. All the techniques focus on maximum efficiency in real-life conditions. Krav Maga generally assumes a no quarter situation; the attacks and defenses are intended to inflict the most pain possible on the opponent in the least amount of time.[/i]
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Brianhjh · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject:

... still doesn't explain how it's impractical because there's no fancy shmancy competitions and since it's not considered "sport".

oh, and never quote out of wikipedia for your responses, those kind of things move you down from wikiwhore to wikifag, wiki is good for background research. Paraphrase your own responses, quoting something out (usually out of context) to reply to someone just reeks of laziness.
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anti_sk8r · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject:

[quote]... still doesn't explain how it's impractical because there's no fancy shmancy competitions and since it's not considered "sport".[/quote]
It's not impractical as a martial art in itself. It [i]is[/i] impractical for most people who want to learn one, though, as the majority (to my knowledge) want to do so for sport or competition.

Might aswell bump me down to wikifag right now. In fact, thats an order. On the interwebz, laziness counts for just as much as eating at lunchtime.
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ZeroHourLP · Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: -172359

[quote="anti_sk8r"]Krav Maga. Isn't that sorta like a "break the wrist. walk away." kinda thing?

Not really that practical if you take into consideration the fact that it's not a sport and it's not a competition, Which are usually the only reasons why people take martial arts these days. Also not so effective as a hobby because you can't really have a "sparring partner", perse.[/quote]Of course you can have sparring partners. Why can't you in Krav Maga?

Krav Maga is practical because it is effective in actual use. The fundamentals are basically fuck the other guy up quick however you can. Sport and competition are irrelevant when the main focus is on real life situations.

[quote]But it is [i]highly[/i] practical in real life situations. Someone attacks you, all you have to do is stop them and than neutralize them. However, easier said than done.[/quote]Yeah, it is practical in real life. That's the whole focus. And that vague process you described Krav Maga with applies to basically every fucking martial art.

Edit: I'm repeating everything to you. I know, but it seems to be necessary.

anti_sk8r · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject:

Read:
[quote]It's not impractical as a martial art in itself. It is impractical for most people who want to learn one, though, as the majority (to my knowledge) want to do so for sport or competition.[/quote]

I don't know much about it, though. You seem to be an expert. Enlighten me about it more as it is catching my interest.
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ZeroHourLP · Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: -172359

You're pretty stupid.

SirTyler48 · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject:

I can do a triffle of Martial Arts and Karate and Kung Fu and various Japanese karate. 'Nough said from me.