Fanfiction.net

grand-high-idol · Newb Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 8

The only thing that's really annoying me about FF.net is the f**king anonymous spammers that have no other purpose but to leave pointless spam/flames in other peoples' stories. My God, have you seen the condition of the My Little Pony section? My story, along with a good number of others', were flamed for no f**king reason whatsoever. Bastards didn't even have the guts to leave their email addresses or actual names.

That's what I hate about anon spammers. 80% of the FF.net anon-ers are lowlife scum. X(

Silver_Charm · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 54

Eh... My Little Pony? oO There's a section for fanfiction of MLP?! Woah.

Eh, I like the anonymous option. That way I can go round randomly praising stories; I try to actually sign in to give cnc unlike some people <_< But yah, I like it when people listen to advice, it shows they're more mature than those who throw a hissy-fit. :rolleyes:

But personally, I don't mind FFN. It archives a most of my favourite authors there, and I have no trouble finding good stories. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I don't tend to have to wade through complete crap, unless I decide to see if there's any good stuff in the HP section. And THEN the flood of uselessness roars past. <_< Do those authors just not give a flying f**k about their writing? I've been writing a chapter for my story for the past four months, just because I don't want to post any rubbish (though I am rather picky. I despise a certain author, whatisface the vicar guy, because his book had no exclaimation marks. "Run. Run." and, "Help me please." is just not compelling >_<) on the internet, where everybody could see.

Does anyone go to Freedom of Speech? That allows the NC-17 refugee writers there; the founder was one of them, I think.

Raymei · Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject:

Why must you attatch that photo [u][i]Every time [/i][/u]you post?

cstdenis · Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject:

Just put some little pic in your sig.

Reposting the same pic like that wastes the site's space and bandwidth
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fallenangel · Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject:

Damn, I thought we were going to throw a party. Guess I should go get Kate out of the cake...
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Raymei · Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:

Well, if that's how they are, I think we can still throw a party (as Kate, Lasher, Fallen, and Pow know...I'm not really into "sympathy posts" lately)

Stratadrake · Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 12:07 am Post subject:

I wonder if I can add anything without repeating what's already been said....

Having read through this topic, I have to agree on just about every point raised.

I've been signed up on Fanfiction.Net for only 2-3 months, boy there is a lot of crap covering up the really good fics out there. It's almost a hobby to pick out a category at random and read the silly, nonsensical titles and descriptions listed therein.

I like writing myself, fanfics or otherwise, and I'm one of those that when I receive a "U r0x0rz!" for a review, I have to shake my head in disgust. What a disgrace, that's #1 on my list of feedback pet-peeves, more so than outright flames.

Being new there (and here) I can't vouch for anything in FF.net's history. I don't doubt what's been talked about here, and I do notice they mentioned removing the NC-17 category. Yeah, just because some stupid kid searched out and read a NC-17 story should mean that FF.net is not responsible for it is outright stupid.

But maybe the trouble is inherent to the Internet: Just as they didn't know that some member was a predator, how can they confirm that the person clicking the links is of the proper age to read them?

Like an open market with dark brooding alleys on the sides, there's always a risk that some kid might wander off into places they aren't supposed to be, and who is to blame? Certainly don't blame the architects who built the place!

On a related note, I have seen a small portion of the mis-rated FF.net fics, thankfully nothing as bad as what's been talked about (i.e. guising NC-17 as 'G'), usually little things like a PG-13 fic sounding a little too bloody or a bit too loose on the "F-word".

I've spent some time giving feedback to a few FF.net stories over there, once again I find myself distraught by the sheer volume of pointless reviews filled with 1337 and swooning, that provide no help to the writers. Maybe it's to be different, to be noticed, maybe it's a throwback to some Creative Writing classes, but I would use a copy&paste method when reviewing, bring up specific points about the story and talk about them. I always worry about getting too carried away in doing a critical review, I can't say how relieved I get when I hear, days or weeks later, a response from the person (in Author Notes, their profile page, or via e-mail) I reviewed saying how much they appreciated me being specific and helpful. I suppose I read & review (on a regular basis) only 4-5 stories out of all the wheat and slash that inhabits FanFiction.net. Out of nearly all of them I've seen positive reactions to my reviews.

I can't say much about FF.net accounts being deleted, I'm a bit new there and have only seen one account deletion so far, it was one member whose stories I was reading (and reviewing), we even did some trading e-mails back and forth, then one day I see a mail from them saying how FF.net closed their account . . . again. Of course I was surprised, but I don't think that even FF.net administration would take such action without cause. I don't know why it happened to them, all I know is that it probably wasn't good luck to for them to start their profile info with "STUPID F* SITE FROZE MY BLOODY ACCOUNT!" .

I realize this may not be much of an intro post for me, but I'm not good at introductions.
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Raymei · Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 7:53 am Post subject:

I'm not e-mailing your or PMing you so I don't understand how I'm not "leaving you alone"

I know this may seem like the harsh truth to you kid, but I think you're looking for a reason to be moody/depressed/dramatic.

Silver_Charm · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 54

Random post here, and a little off-topic, but the Animorphs series were originally books. I should know, as a rabid ten-year-old I used to read them. *cringe*

fallenangel · Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject:

Haha, I used to post R-rated work as PG13 so that it would show up on the main list. But it was just for language, and I put a little warning in the heading of the first chapters so people would know. And I completely agree that, while I never did get a L337 comment, the "Cool!" reviews were nice but...kinda worthless. Glad they like it, and a review is better than nothing just to know they like it, but knowing WHAT they like or WHY they like it would be much more helpful in knowing how I should continue.

Really, the last straw for my POSTING there (before I stopped reading) was when the fangirl following of certain authors got to be too much of a pain in the ass. There were two authors specifically who had excessively huge epic stories (started out good, but after about the fourth one they turned to s**t, but the girls didn't know when to just stop). The fans of those two who checked for updates religiously loved to accuse everyone else of copying them, even if it was something as foolish and petty as "omg, you so copied this from ____! Talking in a restaurant, an original character, why can't you just come up with your own story?!!!!". Last time I checked two people having a conversation in a restaurant wasn't copyrighted to anyone. <_< Like I would be so stupid as to steal someone's story and post it on the SAME site in the SAME category so that it's RIGHT UNDER the other one. Morons.

Yeah, that place sucks. Had the potential to be great, and used to be halfway decent, but they went too far trying to please everyone.
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n8comics · Has No Life Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 582

Too much crap there too XD

Raymei · Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:

Thanks
But I earnestly think you need to stop taking things as personal attacks.

ChibiJaime · Rookie Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 29

Ah, yes... fanfiction.net... I think that site's been beyond redemption for a very, VERY long time. I'm an author there myself. I've seen stories that are written as "Tehn he luked 4 her b-neeth teh bed. Seh wuznt thre!!!!!!!1111one" get 50,000 reviews while well-written ones get three.

More rules really wouldn't help. They'd be blown out of proportion on all the wrong people.

I still post there. I like getting reviews. I'm unashamed to say that at one point, I wrote Mary Sues. I'm also unashamed to say that I'm of the camp that believes an original character isn't always a Mary Sue, and that a Mary Sue can be made of a canon character. But there's a point where things go too far, and unfortunately, ff.net is one of those points.

I, however, ignore the bad fics. I find those few good ones in the sections I read in (Saiyuki, Jak and Daxter, and Great Mouse Detective (blargh, I know it sounds ridiculous, but there's Bible fanfiction, so I'm the lesser of two evils!)) and review them when I can. The bad fics will always be there.

It's the bad reviewers that flame and hate because of what you write that *I* wish would go away. T_T

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fallenangel · Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject:

Mary Sues must perish! Characters that are brilliant, beautiful, and all around perfect annoy the crap out of me. No, I'm sorry I don't want to read about how Stacy, unaffected by her horrible wounds, carried her 200 lb male companion from the plane crash, built them shelter, found water, hunted for food, and fixed the plane with coconuts, saving everyone and being the hero. <_< When I come across I story with a mary sue a just wanna beat that person over the head.

But other than that... *ahem*
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Raymei · Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject:

T.T it's when it gets to the "they're perfect...unless they can be rescued"

Meaning, they're REALLY strong and gorgeous and brilliant and every male character (villain or hero) is in love with them but............they can be hurt/kidnapped/etc for senseless dramatic value....

I hate that.

T.T I hate mary sues....

ChibiJaime · Rookie Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 29

Hey, I never said I LIKED Mary Sues. But a lot of writers, beginners especially, write them.

Then, most of us learn. It's the ones that don't that give a lot of OC writers a bad name.

Stratadrake · Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:14 am Post subject:

[quote]I've seen stories that are written as "Tehn he luked 4 her b-neeth teh bed. Seh wuznt thre!!!!!!!1111one" get 50,000 reviews while well-written ones get three.[/quote]

I hear ya. I'm on the latter end of this too.
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Remko · Very bored Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 142

I know where you're coming from absolutely and totally.

I always check out fanfiction.net to spark the idea section of my brain, you know, get it started. But ever since my obsession with Fight Club a while back, (which granted, is a five-year-old movie, but still...) I've noticed that that one and every obsession since then has had trouble with updating and the ones that do update are terribly written (no offense, but check your grammar/spelling, people!). It makes me sad, because my skill in writing has gotten steadily worse without practice ideas. Sad

I thought I was cursed, but I guess everyone is, huh?

BladeMaster · Rookie Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 41

Yes, it is. *Sips tea* Grr!

I tryed to post something, but it did not work.

[QUOTE] WTF?

Some one added suger, Grr!

and I hate suger!

Stratadrake · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject:

I need a place to rant, and this is the right thread for it.

Yup, I'm going to (pardon my french) bitch about FF.net for a few minutes today.

But it's not what you're thinking. Yes, you have to dig through the trash & slash of FF.net to find anything even remotely worth reading. But . . . my gripe today is about [i]technical[/i] problems in FF.net:

1. One of FF.net's features is called "QuickEdit/Preview". This used to be a simple document preview that you could use to make sure your chapters were uploaded correctly. But now they had to go and put this thing called "QuickEdit" in. FF.net's QE is a RichTextBox interface that you can use to edit and format your chapters la Word. But there's one main problem with it: It ONLY works in IE. And I use NS7. Virtually [b]every frickin' time[/b] I try to preview my uploaded chapters on FF.net, my browser crashes! I've crashed my browser five or six times just today! They need to separate the QE and Preview interfaces into two different links.

2. FF.net allows use of the

HTML tag. HOWEVER, you can't assign the width attribute to it. Me, when I need a visual divider mid-chapter, I dont want a horizontal rule going clear across from left to right (I use those for "bigger" separations, like chapter/Author Notes), I want something like

. There is none.

3. Because of #2, I've taken to typing * * * * * for my mid-chapter visual dividers. BUT, lately it's like FF.net is now stripping asterisks from uploaded HTML files. WTF? What's wrong with the asterisk? Now I'm resorting to typing = = = = = instead.

4. Due to #1, I have to double-team my browsers when I upload my chapters there. IE for the previewing and NS for the uploading. Why? Here's #4. Today, every time I've uploaded an HTML chapter using IE, [b]it doesn't parse the HTML![/b] Then when I Preview the document (also in IE), the chapter is cluttered by HTML code! But guess what? When I upload my chapters in NS7, I don't have this problem. I upload chapters in NS7, the HTML parses just fine. I upload them in IE, the HTML is treates like plain-text. So, now I have to double-team my browsers now when working on my FF.net stuff.

This, as you can imagine, is quite annoying.
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