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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me sad, but it's something to be done sometimes. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Naruto dies, that would be the hugest plot twister of all. I am even watching a fanfiction on fanfiction.net about it ^^
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then sasuke and sakura can get married and have teh childrenz Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, really. I am reading a fanfiction where Naruto dies and the Kyuubi uses his body to bring him back and Sakura is falling for Naruto <33 If you want the link, pm me. It is very good Very Happy (And has the kyuubi saying 'Savvy?' like Jack Sparrow Very Happy)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[size=24]KAKASHIxSAKURA & SASUKExSAKURA 4EVER <33333333333333333[/size]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SilverKitsune, are you trying to ask me to come to your house and rape you with a machette? Cause you are making me want to....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you can rape me, but not with a sharp object.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see that this "Serious Anime Discussion" hasn't gotten off topic.

I'm an avid supporter of main characters dying. But not if it's useless to the story. Gaara died but that was to make an example for Akatsuki and he was later revived anyway. Thank god. Gaara is awesome.

I also like when characters only die in a sense. Like, Goku died at the end of DBZ. But he was still there in a spiritual sense, also how Asuma died in Naruto but he lives on through Shikamaru, in a way.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg. gaara dies? I idn't read past that...


seriously, put a spoiler warning.......cause it really does take out the fun in reading or watching all together.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shit sorry >< oh well. you're not far off and it's not a major thing. comes back almost instantly.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SilverKitsune"]Then sasuke and sakura can get married and have teh childrenz Razz[/quote]

Oh, and by the way. In the fanfiction, Sasuke is knocked out, so I suspected that will happen.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately, fanfiction is everything but official canon.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long must you wait before you no longer need to put giant, ugly SPOILER tags around everything? Gaara's death and revival has been published for at least a year already, and I would assume that if you're not up to date on a manga, you wouldn't visit a topic about characters dying.

If the main character dies at the end or near the end and it's necessary to the story, then fine.

Goku doesn't count. He dies multiple times and doesn't stay dead. It's like he goes on lengthy vacations and returns when people's asses need saving.

The rest of this post is rather Naruto spoiler-y. And a little Bleach spoiler-y.

Asuma doesn't really count as a main character. I felt that his dead was sort of weird and rushed since Kishimoto hardly built up his character at all. A lot of the information we did get about him came after he died, and I didn't care enough for his death to mean anything.

It also annoyed me whenever Kishimoto would introduce somebody, usually a bad guy, give him a unique and interesting ability, throw in some backstory, and then kill him off at the end of the arc. I would have liked to see more of the Sound 5, Sasori (and his grandmother and the third Kazekage), Hidan, and Kakuzu. There's more story to tell about them, but since they're dead, we won't ever see any it.

Bleach. Kubo Tite, you anger me so much, killing off the KKtown raid party and the ex-Espada so quickly. Introduce some characters that I actually care about before I stop reading. :\
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]Asuma doesn't really count as a main character. I felt that his dead was sort of weird and rushed since Kishimoto hardly built up his character at all.[/quote]
He's a main character in that he's a leader of a Rookie 9 team. Which the whole show is built around. But he's not main in the sense that his death wouldn't cause a whole chunk of the show to crash. He was the perfect person to kill off.

Also, his character was built up. Only very subtly. He's the son of the Third, uncle of Konohamaru and boyfriend of Kurenai. He also had a backstory and a personality. Also, he's gonna have a son soon because he got Kurenai knocked up before he died.

I agree that his death was sort of lame. I mean, technically he beat Hidan. I mean, he decapitated the guy. I think the whole immortality thing was sort of badly tacked on in a way.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]He's a main character in that he's a leader of a Rookie 9 team. Which the whole show is built around. But he's not main in the sense that his death wouldn't cause a whole chunk of the show to crash. He was the perfect person to kill off. [/quote]
The whole [i]show[/i] is not built around team 9. It's centered on team 7. Asuma's the leader of that special group sent out to kill the Akatsuki, but even then the focus was on Shikamaru, not Asuma.

[quote]Also, his character was built up. Only very subtly. He's the son of the Third, uncle of Konohamaru and boyfriend of Kurenai. He also had a backstory and a personality. Also, he's gonna have a son soon because he got Kurenai knocked up before he died. [/quote]
Normally I would say that these traits would flesh out decently a character; however, only one of those facts, that he was Kurenai's boyfriend, was hinted at until after the beginning of that arc. If we had slowly learned those things since the first part of Naruto (I mean like.. before Sasuke ran off) then I'd have complaints. The problem is that we got so many of those facts right before (or during.. or after..) his death that it seems like Kishimoto was trying too hard to make us care about him before he finally bought the farm.

[quote]I think the whole immortality thing was sort of badly tacked on in a way.[/quote]
Kakuzu's immortality made no sense to me. Hidan.. I'm willing to believe. What I don't like about the Hidan story line is that he's not truly dead, and he would recover and be good as new if he managed to get out of that hole. What's stopping the Akatsuki Leader or Zetsu or somebody from waltzing into the Nara forest and getting him out? I think it's safe to say that they'd be a match for some deer and Shikamaru's family. Itachi and Kisame walked right into Konohagakure without problems.

This is turning into a Naruto thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]The whole show is not built around team 9. It's centered on team 7. Asuma's the leader of that special group sent out to kill the Akatsuki, but even then the focus was on Shikamaru, not Asuma.[/quote]
I never said it was built around team 9. I said it was built around the Rookie 9. Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, Kiba, Hinata, Shino, Choji, Shikamaru and Ino. Aswell as the Sand Trio and Team Gai. Duh.
[quote] The problem is that we got so many of those facts right before (or during.. or after..) his death that it seems like Kishimoto was trying too hard to make us care about him before he finally bought the farm.[/quote]
Big deal. We didn't really no squat about Kakashi until the Kakashi Gaiden arc. Which really came out of nowhere, also. Just because the character is built up quickly doesn't make any more or less main.

Bottom line: He has a team, serious relationships, background and unique jutsu which is more than you can say for most characters in Naruto.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a girl hopes ginny weesly dies in Harry Potter cuz shes a dumb bich but shes not the main character so o well
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally, I do think main characters should die, occasionally. It helps keep the plot interesting. I do think that sometimes a side character is better suited to die, but the death of a mian character is always interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that main characters should die *gasp* Heh... sounds weird, though, since they're the main characters and all. It may also give a little plot twist, to let some background characters come in, or companions of the main character to be there a little more than often. Am I confusing you now?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="London"]
It also annoyed me whenever Kishimoto would introduce somebody, usually a bad guy, give him a unique and interesting ability, throw in some backstory, and then kill him off at the end of the arc. I would have liked to see more of the Sound 5, Sasori (and his grandmother and the third Kazekage), Hidan, and Kakuzu. There's more story to tell about them, but since they're dead, we won't ever see any it.

Bleach. Kubo Tite, you anger me so much, killing off the KKtown raid party and the ex-Espada so quickly. Introduce some characters that I actually care about before I stop reading. :\[/quote]

Agreed mainly with Mema for me. Bu t on topic i think it depends on the person. i would really like to see more happy endings, the sad ones usallly get me depressed for two or so months. They should make some more happy ending animes/manga
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